What brought me here?
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you all know that Jesus died for our sins, but I am not pushing any of you. It is a choice. I do not know of any pastors that say Jesus did not die for us otherwise they would not be pastors. Mohamad is dead as you all know and Yeshua is alive forever, Hallelujah. I love Yeshua more then anything and i know you guys know this.oh and regarding the crusades they were not christains by deeds only by words.that was a sick thing to do. a real one would not do that, and those killers of people unless they repented are in hell, so no sirs they were not real Christians.
Well I have to agree to a certain extent about the crusaders, they were Christians but they were "brain washed" by the Pope and the Kings at the time, being told that they were "rescuing" the holy land from the infidels. Anyway, they lost in the end. And by the way, I have never said Jesus did not die for us, and before you say it, I didn't say he did either.
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the truth is He did. since I will be getting of here due to me feeling like I am talking to a brick walls I wish you well in Christ's Holy Name, but know this, everyone will be judged. The Judgment starts at the house of God for the ones who are saved like me. There is so many people in this word on their way to hell so sad. But please Ask Seek and Knock. I did. I got saved early 2005 after a supernatural dream. God loves me very much He has given me eternal life. He loves all you too but will never force you to come to Him. Like I said it is a choice. Leanne
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the truth is He did. since I will be getting of here due to me feeling like I am talking to a brick walls I wish you well in Christ's Holy Name, but know this, everyone will be judged. The Judgment starts at the house of God for the ones who are saved like me. There is so many people in this word on their way to hell so sad. But please Ask Seek and Knock. I did. I got saved early 2005 after a supernatural dream. God loves me very much He has given me eternal life. He loves all you too but will never force you to come to Him. Like I said it is a choice. Leanne
Yes all religions are a choice, as are all beliefs. My belief is as long as someone believes in the one and only God and follows (as far as possible) his laws, that is the most important thing.
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the truth is He did. since I will be getting of here due to me feeling like I am talking to a brick walls I wish you well in Christ's Holy Name, but know this, everyone will be judged. The Judgment starts at the house of God for the ones who are saved like me. There is so many people in this word on their way to hell so sad. But please Ask Seek and Knock. I did. I got saved early 2005 after a supernatural dream. God loves me very much He has given me eternal life. He loves all you too but will never force you to come to Him. Like I said it is a choice. Leanne
Sure? Do you fast, perform daily prayers and give money to charity like Jesus did and you are supposed to? You can do as much talking as you want - actions are greater than empty talk.
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you all know that Jesus died for our sins, but I am not pushing any of you. It is a choice. I do not know of any pastors that say Jesus did not die for us otherwise they would not be pastors. Mohamad is dead as you all know and Yeshua is alive forever, Hallelujah. I love Yeshua more then anything and i know you guys know this.oh and regarding the crusades they were not christains by deeds only by words.that was a sick thing to do. a real one would not do that, and those killers of people unless they repented are in hell, so no sirs they were not real Christians.
;DHow come he is dead and alive at same time ;D i can only '(for you (
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Sure? Do you fast, perform daily prayers and give money to charity like Jesus did and you are supposed to? You can do as much talking as you want - actions are greater than empty talk.
Well, in Leanne's defence, she is on a diet, so I suppose that is a sort of fast, as a born again Baptist I'm sure she prays every day, but I have no idea if she gives everything to charity.
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oh and regarding the crusades they were not christains by deeds only by words.that was a sick thing to do. a real one would not do that, and those killers of people unless they repented are in hell, so no sirs they were not real Christians.
Well, the same applies to Muslims. A real Muslim does not attack or kill people, unless he is attacked first. I don't think there is any religion that says; "go and attack people, even if they don't attack you".
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Why would that not make sense? we both believe in the same God, the Quran and the Bible say (basically) the same thing. A God-alone Christian and a God-alone Muslim are quite close.
I don't know if you would call me a God alone Muslim, although I think I am, lol. I realize that there are many so called authentic hadiths that contradict God's message in the Qur'an. However, I don't think we have to get rid of all hadiths, including those who don't contradict the Qur'an, in order to become a God alone Muslim.
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Well thats fine. As I don't believe in hell, it doesn't really matter does it?
There is no concept of hell in the Bible ???
I believe in Hell, but I don't think that disbelievers are going to remain there in eternity. There are Islamic scholars who believe that Hell is going to disappear after people receive punishment, but unlike believers, disbelievers will "disappear" together with Hell & Only monotheists will live in eternity in Paradise. But as we Muslims say; "God knows best". I know He will be just
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Jesus didn't die for shit. God took him.
Also I believe in hell but I think it's for just retribution i.e. not damned forever.
what rev said in another thread is partially right in my opinion. "hell is an absence from God" So God is absent from us at that time.
- I do not believe in hell. If God is our father, then what father would condemn his children to hell Eternal damnation, etc.?
It does not say eternal or temporary..I believe that God would forgive his "children" (us) for he is the most merciful.. pr
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what rev said in another thread is partially right in my opinion. "hell is an absence from God" So God is absent from us at that time.It does not say eternal or temporary..I believe that God would forgive his "children" (us) for he is the most merciful.. pr
bravo
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It is comforting to think that and common among us, since we probably don't even know what it means to be God's true enemy.
However I believe those going are truly deserving of God's wrath and we may not know since we're probably allies of the god. In fact I think Muhammad prayed for God to forgive them (like we do and wish for their salvation) and God said no, you don't know them.
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and God said no, you don't know them.
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I believe that God would forgive his "children" (us) for he is the most merciful.. pr
God is the most merciful. However, it would be very unjust if murderers and criminals etc. received the same rewards (and punishment) as those who are righteous. Surely, God will not treat them equally; that would be unjust and unGodly behaviour.
However, there is no doubt that God is merciful. Look at some of His names )
Ar-Rahmn The All Beneficent, The Most Merciful in Essence, The Compassionate, The Most Gracious.
Ar-Rahm The Most Merciful, The Most Merciful in Actions.
As-Salm The Peace and Blessing, The Source of Peace and Safety, The Most Perfect.
Al-Muhaymin The Guardian, The Preserver, The Overseeing Protector.
Al-Bri' The Rightful.
Al-Ghaffr The Ever Forgiving.
Al-Wahhb The Bestower.
Ar-Razzq The Ever Providing.
Ar-Rfi The Exalter.
Al-`Adl The Utterly Just.
Al-Laf The Gentle, The Subtly Kind.
Al-alm The Forbearing, The Indulgent.
Al-Ghafr The All Forgiving.
Al-Muqt The Nourisher.
Al-asb The Bringer of Judgment.
Al-Karm The Bountiful, The Generous.
Al-Wadd The Loving, The Kind One.
Al-Wakl The Trustee, The Dependable.
Al-Barr The Most Kind and Righteous.
Al-Afuww The Pardoner, The Effacer of Sins.
Ar-Ra'f The Compassionate, The All Pitying.
An-Nfi The Propitious, The Benefactor.
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God is the most merciful. However, it would be very unjust if murderers and criminals etc. received the same rewards (and punishment) as those who are righteous. Surely, God will not treat them equally; that would be unjust and unGodly behaviour.
However, there is no doubt that God is merciful. Look at some of His names )
Ar-Rahmn The All Beneficent, The Most Merciful in Essence, The Compassionate, The Most Gracious.
Ar-Rahm The Most Merciful, The Most Merciful in Actions.
As-Salm The Peace and Blessing, The Source of Peace and Safety, The Most Perfect.
Al-Muhaymin The Guardian, The Preserver, The Overseeing Protector.
Al-Bri' The Rightful.
Al-Ghaffr The Ever Forgiving.
Al-Wahhb The Bestower.
Ar-Razzq The Ever Providing.
Ar-Rfi The Exalter.
Al-`Adl The Utterly Just.
Al-Laf The Gentle, The Subtly Kind.
Al-alm The Forbearing, The Indulgent.
Al-Ghafr The All Forgiving.
Al-Muqt The Nourisher.
Al-asb The Bringer of Judgment.
Al-Karm The Bountiful, The Generous.
Al-Wadd The Loving, The Kind One.
Al-Wakl The Trustee, The Dependable.
Al-Barr The Most Kind and Righteous.
Al-Afuww The Pardoner, The Effacer of Sins.
Ar-Ra'f The Compassionate, The All Pitying.
An-Nfi The Propitious, The Benefactor.
bravo thanks for all the words! handshake