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HIJAB, NIGAB or NOTHING - Youtube.

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    SarahY
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    dude don't mock em. to their understanding they 'assume' they are obeying the messenger. until they think and question their practice they will know otherwise. people tend to take belief for granted.

    Be nice, Peace.

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      TheJoker
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      Yeah, you are justifying the actions of those who mock "quran-upholders".

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        Meteora
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        Well, they mock us. The articles I'm refuting that I'm posting in the hadith discussion have all sorts of attacks and bashing aimed at Quran-aloners, and I don't even bash them as much as they do. In fact they threaten Quran-aloners with death which is beyond retarded if you ask me.

        I know not all sunni's are like this (most are probably exempt) but the ones insisting on stupidity (and no, they're not even trying if they ignore some of God's revelations just for the sake of tradition) are and will be damned. 'Nuff said.

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          SarahY
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          Well 2 wrongs don't make a right. Good on ya for putting the article up and if they follow tradition due to their ignorance, that's their doings don't worry about them.

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            aynur
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            Peace Aynur and Rev John

            I found this - it's referring to Adam and Eve, I believe.

            (Asad)
            727 O children of ADAM! Do not allow Satan to seduce you in the same way as he caused your ancestors to be driven out of the garden he deprived them of their garment in order to make them aware of their nakedness. Verily, he and his tribe are lying in wait for you where you cannot perceive them! Verily, We have placed satanic forces near unto those who do not believe;

            Peace )

            Peace.
            Can someone explain what this means?
            I think my brain is mushy from fasting. D
            Plus I'm tired and should go to bed.

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              aynur
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              dude don't mock em. to their understanding they 'assume' they are obeying the messenger. until they think and question their practice they will know otherwise. people tend to take belief for granted.

              Be nice, Peace.

              I agree with Sarah.

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                aynur
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                I thought they were, on the whole pretty respectful of one another though quick to take personal offense. I didn't like that Sonia's defense is basically that the Muslim world need to look more friendly, appearance-wise, to the Western world.

                The woman wearing the hijab says that men too have their own compulsory dresscode and can't wear whatever they want but technically this is untrue because the way the Sunni ruling is, men CAN practically wear whatever they want unless they have an all-consuming urge to constantly walk around in Speedos. How can one compare head-to-toe covering with covering just from the navel to the knees?

                Also, did anyone catch the bit where the reporter says "I'm sure you're anxious about breaking your fast" and connected that to a bit in the clip where Sonia drinks from a cup? That made me LOL.

                Exactly. You can't compare navel-to-knee vs. full-body covering. The men have much more freedom, and are not going to overheat.
                Well Sonia could have had her period, that's why she wasn't fasting ... or, they put that in there to try to show she's "not really" Muslim....

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                  SarahY
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                  Exactly. You can't compare navel-to-knee vs. full-body covering. The men have much more freedom, and are not going to overheat.
                  Well Sonia could have had her period, that's why she wasn't fasting ... or, they put that in there to try to show she's "not really" Muslim....

                  the others had a glass in front of them too didn't they?

                  anyway interesting vid.

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                    Wakas
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                    Re mocking

                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596544.msg4764#msg4764

                    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                      Q_student
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                      Peace
                      Another interesting video.
                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3HIqMO1AKM&NR=1

                      Regards

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                        farida
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                        Yeah, you are justifying the actions of those who mock "quran-upholders".

                        Salaam
                        nope "quran-upholders". WHERE? Here? Na na na, verses of the Quran are ignored again and again here, your drive to ridicule Sunnis overshadow's Qur'anic wisdom.
                        Upholders Of The Quran- Remember this
                        2855 And if they come across vain talk, they disregard it and say "To us are our deeds, and to you is your deeds. Peace be upon you. We do not seek the ignorant."
                        25 63. And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the Earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they say "Peace."
                        4389 So disregard them and say "Peace." For they will come to know.

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                          TheJoker
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                          Salaam
                          nope "quran-upholders". WHERE? Here? Na na na, verses of the Quran are ignored again and again here, your drive to ridicule Sunnis overshadow's Qur'anic wisdom.
                          Upholders Of The Quran- Remember this
                          2855 And if they come across vain talk, they disregard it and say "To us are our deeds, and to you is your deeds. Peace be upon you. We do not seek the ignorant."
                          25 63. And the servants of the Almighty who walk on the Earth in humility and if the ignorant speak to them, they say "Peace."
                          4389 So disregard them and say "Peace." For they will come to know.

                          What in the world are you talking about? ???

                          I am starting to think you don't get the English language.

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                            farida
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                            What in the world are you talking about? ???

                            I am starting to think you don't get the English language.

                            Salaam
                            Please don't get upset; my post is not directed at you. I knew you are not happy with the justification for mocking I was wondering which Quran upholders you are talking about. group

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                              TheJoker
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                              Salaam
                              Please don't get upset; my post is not directed at you. I knew you are not happy with the justification for mocking I was wondering which Quran upholders you are talking about. group

                              Not upset. You quoted me, so I thought you were talking to me. Thanks for clarifying.

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                                Meteora
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                                Well 2 wrongs don't make a right. Good on ya for putting the article up and if they follow tradition due to their ignorance, that's their doings don't worry about them.

                                I never said I had a problem with what they believe, but if it's something like Quran-aloners are deviants and destined for hell and then they try to argue with whatever crap they have for evidence and publish it on the net, it will be exposed by non-manipulated words of the God.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  I never said I had a problem with what they believe, but if it's something like Quran-aloners are deviants and destined for hell and then they try to argue with whatever crap they have for evidence and publish it on the net, it will be exposed by non-manipulated words of the God.

                                  Well how could Quran-aloners be destined for hell? If they follow the Holy book how can they be wrong unless the book is wrong.

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                                    afridi220
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                                    Hey I thought you did not belong to my boat ) )

                                    I?m not an extremist I always take a middle path, some time i may be in your boat and some time i may agree with some one else. ;D

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                                      SarahY
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                                      I never said I had a problem with what they believe, but if it's something like Quran-aloners are deviants and destined for hell and then they try to argue with whatever crap they have for evidence and publish it on the net, it will be exposed by non-manipulated words of the God.

                                      Good. I know you feel passionate about your beliefs like most people do alhamdulillah.
                                      people say alot of hurtful things and it sux so it's important to defend yourself though without mockery thats all.
                                      anyway thumbs up for your efforts
                                      Salam

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                                        MUNZIR_ALI
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                                        Well how could Quran-aloners be destined for hell? If they follow the Holy book how can they be wrong unless the book is wrong.

                                        bravo thats the common sense we need! handshake

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                                          farida
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                                          I?m not an extremist I always take a middle path, some time i may be in your boat and some time i may agree with some one else. ;D

                                          Salaam
                                          Taking a middle ground is one thing and trying to please everyone is another. One can't please everyone so a believer never shy?s away from confronting wrong, his main concern should be to please God who created him and to Him is the return.
                                          peace

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