Which would you choose?
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I dont understand people who chose 'no life'. If you get no life in the first place, then there is a 0%-chance of getting into paradise already. Why not take your chances with a life, where the chances to go to paradise are above 0%?
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Does anyone know Pascal's Wager? If you do then the true question is how sure are you your choice (for guarantee into heaven) is the right one. Because every religous follower seems pretty convinced in their own insurance policy. As well as being convinced everyone else is wrong.
Peace
It's not 0% - isnt that good enough?
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The question could be Would you choose to exist in an after-life or would you prefer no after-life.
In both cases you get to live, but in one instance your life is a test, and in the other it just ends. You stop existing.Is one life better than the other?
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The question could be Would you choose to exist in an after-life or would you prefer no after-life.
In both cases you get to live, but in one instance your life is a test, and in the other it just ends. You stop existing.Is one life better than the other?
"The sea is only beautiful if there's a shore. Life is like the sea. There'll be a direction to follow even if you sail more than one day or one life... the promise of a new land is your guide, because you know that the sea is a huge world that's beautiful only if there's a shore." - Patricky Field, as quoted in Beautiful if there's a shore (200 song by Patricky Field.
I know that it can be interpreted differently, but think of 'the shore' as the reward of paradise.
If there was no afterlife, then wouldnt you feel awful, as you would know that it's this life and nothing else - in fact, it's only nothingness/emptiness.
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The question could be Would you choose to exist in an after-life or would you prefer no after-life.
In both cases you get to live, but in one instance your life is a test, and in the other it just ends. You stop existing.Is one life better than the other?
welcome
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Peace,
Each one can end his life anytime he chooses to, he might be saved/stopped somehow, but the ability to choose to cease to exist is always available.
Thus, all those living are choosing to stay alive, as in the instinct of survival. Every creature is fighting to save its life, to live longer and to procreate. We are choosing to live since we were young, even babies do cry instinctively to ask for food, or to tell there is something wrong. It would be un-natural to choose otherwise.
To Be Or Not to Be? That's the question.
Wakas, the situation that you have presented is impossible, because you have to exist to make a choice to not to exist. If you do not exist, then you don't need to make any choice.
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I dont understand people who chose 'no life'. If you get no life in the first place, then there is a 0%-chance of getting into paradise already. Why not take your chances with a life, where the chances to go to paradise are above 0%?
The only reason I live is for reasons like my parents (who want me badly) and for a good achievement in the afterlife. Surely committing suicide isn't going to get to anything, at least, I think it won't, especially if the result is hurting my parents badly.
So this is why I live. Had it not been for these reasons, then there is no point in life (for me). It does not matter what this life has got to offer. Life, at least for me is pretty damn imperfect, to the point I actually hate it and complain at times. Now I don't know if this complaining equals not being thankful, as I try to be thankful pretty much all the time. I'm not sure if this is the equivalent of being satisfied (not completely but just enough not to worry or complain) so I'm pretty confused on this matter. It's not just a matter of not getting what I want. A lot of stupid crap happen to me all the time, like this college semester for example. I'm trying to purchase my textbooks online for cheaper and they take an entire week to arrive, and I couldn't purchase them before classes started since I needed to be sure exactly what they were. A week wasted = points lost = lower chances of getting desired grades = less chance of getting into desired university = probably not ending up with a decent job or having to go out of state just to continue my education. Not only that but I have to do online homework and studying for a class I can't even study and work for, because the damn technical/customer support specialists are too slow with fixing my problem. Anyone reading this may think this is a very stupid reason to hate life and they would be right. This is just an example of the kind of bs I experience nearly everyday. I bet not one person in my trigonometry class has had this issue and I do...why? Why am I the only one also who registered for this one online class late, just because I didn't know it existed until a week and a half after it started? This is the kind of nonsensical crap that occurs in my life. I could elaborate on what almost caused me to end my life last year as well. All in all life, to me is so damn undesiable. I am also (it seems) naturally pretty abnormal.
Either way I do not like the fact I was given life. This is not me being ungrateful but me in all honesty. I'm not going to lie, and I'm sure not all (or everyone who has a life) like their lives, be they rich or poor, for whatever reasons they should have, but, you don't have to have lived a happy life to go to paradise. I think you have to have a good record you'll be happy with when you're presented with it by the god.
People may brag about the afterlife and that is ok. I imagine the afterlife as a life where you get anything you want at any time, a place where everyone holds hands and say peace the whole time. It's very appealing but as of the moment, this does not make it seem to me that this is worth going through what I've gone through and this is assuming of course I'm even going to paradise, but yeah...no. Add to that the possiblity of ending up with the exact opposite....and I love the idea of never having existed even more, probably even an infinite times more. I see people who value their existence so much and their hoped future paradise as....somewhat greedy people. I am not greedy and I think my desire to have never existed proves it.
God has given me good stuff though, I'll admit and am thankful for that.
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A lot of stupid crap happen to me all the time, like this college semester for example. I'm trying to purchase my textbooks online for cheaper and they take an entire week to arrive, and I couldn't purchase them before classes started since I needed to be sure exactly what they were. A week wasted = points lost = lower chances of getting desired grades = less chance of getting into desired university = probably not ending up with a decent job or having to go out of state just to continue my education. Not only that but I have to do online homework and studying for a class I can't even study and work for, because the damn technical/customer support specialists are too slow with fixing my problem. Anyone reading this may think this is a very stupid reason to hate life and they would be right. This is just an example of the kind of bs I experience nearly everyday. I bet not one person in my trigonometry class has had this issue and I do...why? Why am I the only one also who registered for this one online class late, just because I didn't know it existed until a week and a half after it started? This is the kind of nonsensical crap that occurs in my life. I could elaborate on what almost caused me to end my life last year as well. All in all life, to me is so damn undesiable. I am also (it seems) naturally pretty abnormal.
Either way I do not like the fact I was given life. This is not me being ungrateful but me in all honesty. I'm not going to lie, and I'm sure not all (or everyone who has a life) like their lives, be they rich or poor, for whatever reasons they should have, but, you don't have to have lived a happy life to go to paradise. I think you have to have a good record you'll be happy with when you're presented with it by the god.
People may brag about the afterlife and that is ok. I imagine the afterlife as a life where you get anything you want at any time, a place where everyone holds hands and say peace the whole time. It's very appealing but as of the moment, this does not make it to me that this is worth going through what I've gone through and this is assuming of course I'm even going to paradise, but yeah...no. Add to that the possiblity of ending up with the exact opposite....and I love the idea of never having existed even more, probably even an infinite times more. I see people who value their existence so much and their hoped future paradise as....somewhat greedy people. I am not greedy and I think my desire to have never even existed proves it.
God has given me good stuff though, I'll admit and am thankful for that.
Hey there,
I feel your problems. As a college student who is also an international student, believe me, it is hard. I had similar trouble concerning books. (Now I figured out that it's best to get online pdfs of required reading books, they aren't hard to find). I am now vacillating between two completely different majors with different requirements. I haven't gone to the first two classes for this semester in one of the classes for the 'other' major.
But hey, it's life, you do understand more of the way things work after being at college for a while. It helps to get like minded people who will form a study group with you and work at the same on their homework (it doesn't have to be the same course).
And one more thing, the most important lessons I learnt freshman year. The only person you can really depend on is yourself, and so you shouldn't be too hard on yourself, just take life as it comes, savor the little good that happens, and tackle every single problem individually. And write down what you need to do, even if minor, and cross it when done. It feels good.
I hope this didn't come on as too cliched. It just is true, if you apply it.
Take care,
Sarah
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Well, it's worth one's while to actually feel, cause it is nice to have something you value.
But if you know that which your emotionally attached to won't be there forever then you'd rather avoid the pain of losing it in the first place dont u think??
PEACE
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But if you know that which your emotionally attached to won't be there forever then you'd rather avoid the pain of losing it in the first place dont u think??
PEACE
well obviously yes. As in someone who doesn't seem trustworthy, or a cause that seems futile. But to not try at all cause you may lose it nine times out of ten? What about the one time out of ten that you get to keep it. It seems worthwhile to me, but I think everyone is free to decide whether it is worthwhile or not.
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But if you know that which your emotionally attached to won't be there forever then you'd rather avoid the pain of losing it in the first place dont u think??
PEACE
What now Prince? Are you changing your mind? I was counting on grabbing your purse when you leave your belongings behind >(
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well obviously yes. As in someone who doesn't seem trustworthy, or a cause that seems futile. But to not try at all cause you may lose it nine times out of ten? What about the one time out of ten that you get to keep it. It seems worthwhile to me, but I think everyone is free to decide whether it is worthwhile or not.
I was referring to death. Everything here is a gift that does not belong to us, even family and relatives.
PEACE
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That reply reminded me of the scene in Austin Powers... "its not my bag baby!"
Anyways, I asked the question because I was curious, see what others thought, who thought like me etc. And maybe I was pondering on some questions, like the original reason for us being here. The answer "to have a life" reminds me of 3372 a little. My passion is philosophy, so I often ask myself questions like this or even more obscure ones.
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That reply reminded me of the scene in Austin Powers... "its not my bag baby!"
Anyways, I asked the question because I was curious, see what others thought, who thought like me etc. And maybe I was pondering on some questions, like the original reason for us being here. The answer "to have a life" reminds me of 3372 a little. My passion is philosophy, so I often ask myself questions like this or even more obscure ones.
I think we all ask ourselves that question once in a while
