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    Rev_John
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    well, I guess if the girl wears skirts regularly it might make sense for her to shave or depilate, but if she dresses such that her legs are always covered, I don't see why she should have to.

    Until she undresses

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      Until she undresses

      rotfl like that will happen in public! Wait? It does? rotfl

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        Rev_John
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        rotfl like that will happen in public! Wait? It does? rotfl

        I don't think Sarah would do that so I will just have to use my imagination &

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          sarah2505
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          I don't think Sarah would do that so I will just have to use my imagination &

          Until she undresses

          uh?
          I was referring to a host of clothes ranging from trousers, shalwars, churidars, chosh pajamas, abayas, long skirts, taubs, hijab...

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            Rev_John
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            uh?
            I was referring to a host of clothes ranging from trousers, shalwars, churidars, chosh pajamas, abayas, long skirts, taubs, hijab...

            I know, I was joking

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              sarah2505
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              I don't think Sarah would do that so I will just have to use my imagination &

              you have to use your imagination?
              It must be really active in a way it shouldn't be...
              perhaps you should lower your gaze (2431) from the inner eye (your imagination)

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                Rev_John
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                you have to use your imagination?
                It must be really active in a way it shouldn't be...
                perhaps you should lower your gaze (2431) from the inner eye (your imagination)

                Maybe a blindfold would work better !

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                  sarah2505
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                  Maybe a blindfold would work better !

                  how so?
                  it's not like you need any visual input to imagine. Did you know that the Taliban banned wooden heeled shoes for women?
                  Apparently the clip clop sound of wooden heels on stone pavement is provocative for the men.
                  Very strange when you think that they can see nothing of their bodies, since the women cover not only their whole body, hair and face, but even have a gauze veil over their eyes, and so, it's possible that there is a man under the veil...

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                    Rev_John
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                    how so?
                    it's not like you need any visual input to imagine. Did you know that the Taliban banned wooden heeled shoes for women?
                    Apparently the clip clop sound of wooden heels on stone pavement is provocative for the men.
                    Very strange when you think that they can see nothing of their bodies, since the women cover not only their whole body, hair and face, but even have a gauze veil over their eyes, and so, it's possible that there is a man under the veil...

                    What a horrible thought - a man under the veil! So what shoes do they have to wear? silent ones?

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                      sarah2505
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                      What a horrible thought - a man under the veil! So what shoes do they have to wear? silent ones?

                      yes, soft soled shoes, this was during the time of the Taliban in Afghanistan, so I don't think it's still in effect.
                      I read it in the Reader's Digest.
                      They even severely beat up some men because they didn't have beards, and it might have been a racist attack because they were from some East Asian origin ethnic group and didn't have much facial hair naturally.

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                        Rev_John
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                        yes, soft soled shoes, this was during the time of the Taliban in Afghanistan, so I don't think it's still in effect.
                        I read it in the Reader's Digest.
                        They even severely beat up some men because they didn't have beards, and it might have been a racist attack because they were from some East Asian origin ethnic group and didn't have much facial hair naturally.

                        That is so sad. I have a beard (of sorts) but that is by choice, I would never condemn anyone for not having one.

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                          inventor6
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                          Pubic hair has nothing to do with submitting to God. First we should be more concerned with the day of judgement. that would eliminate the mention of such a trivial matter.
                          Read the Quran, hopefully that would bring you to a more enlightened state.

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                            Rev_John
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                            These people do seem to take things too far

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              These people do seem to take things too far

                              yes thats why they are called extremists.

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                                Rev_John
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                                yes thats why they are called extremists.

                                Yes you are right, they are

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                                  FAR
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                                  Okay let's make it clear.

                                  Is it in the quran? Or is it against the quran?

                                  What does quran 4119 say?

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                                    sarah2505
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                                    Okay let's make it clear.

                                    What does quran 4119 say?

                                    it's talking about corrupting God's creation.
                                    that makes me think of mutations and silicone implants and other unnatural things that cause damage to tissues below the skin.

                                    I don't see how keeping or removing body hair, depilation, shaving, cutting, dyeing, piercings, tattooing are corruptions of God's creation.

                                    But female genital mutilation, circumcision, sex change operations (but not gender play or gender bending or any other form of self expression that should be left entirely to the freedom of the person involved), or lengthening of the neck using brass coils as in a Burmese tribal group; these seem to be corruption of God's creation.

                                    I am aware that I have not provided proof, but my opinion, but that is because the word 'corrupting' can be interpreted in different ways. For me, that would be any form of modification that is more than skin deep and/ or is capable of causing net harm to the person concerned, sometime in the future.

                                    It would be great to know other people's understanding of this verse.

                                    Peace

                                    Sarah

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      it's talking about corrupting God's creation.
                                      that makes me think of mutations and silicone implants and other unnatural things that cause damage to tissues below the skin.

                                      I don't see how keeping or removing body hair, depilation, shaving, cutting, dyeing, piercings, tattooing are corruptions of God's creation.

                                      But female genital mutilation, circumcision, sex change operations (but not gender play or gender bending or any other form of self expression that should be left entirely to the freedom of the person involved), or lengthening of the neck using brass coils as in a Burmese tribal group; these seem to be corruption of God's creation.

                                      I am aware that I have not provided proof, but my opinion, but that is because the word 'corrupting' can be interpreted in different ways. For me, that would be any form of modification that is more than skin deep and/ or is capable of causing net harm to the person concerned, sometime in the future.

                                      It would be great to know other people's understanding of this verse.

                                      Peace

                                      Sarah

                                      I agree with you. circumcision is a mutilation especially when carried out on a female.

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                                        sarah2505
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                                        I agree with you. circumcision is a mutilation especially when carried out on a female.

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          I agree with you. circumcision is a mutilation especially when carried out on a female.

                                          It is worse than killing a female in my opinion. Even animals wouldn't do that '(

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