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Intercourse: Allowed During Fasting!

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    Jango
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    #105

    Dear brothers and sisters,

    There were no abrogation in Quran. Allah does not correct His own words and ayats. It is only the wrong understanding of the ayat that led the people talk on subjects such as Allah has abrogated the verses of Quran. One of the ayats cited with reference to abrogation is 2 187! Here is an analysis of the ayat in its correct sense.

    In 2 187
    Thus Ramadhan is explained!
    The Myth before the ayat descended; and
    The Truth after the ayat descended!

    The Myth It is not allowed for you to be with your wives on the night of fasting.
    The Truth It is allowed for you to be with your wives on the nights of fasting because the fasting period is only during the day time. With this ayat the confusion created by the people then, were given a clear explanation and the controversy ended there.

    But then, the same confusion persisted with the day time whether it is allowed to be with the wives are not.
    The Myth You cannot!
    The Truth You can! Allah is aware that you deceive yourselves in privacy; He forgave you with Mercy; It is like passing urine which you have to voluntarily void; It is like passing motion which you have to actively evacuate; similarly so, as the semen builds, fills and swells up it is to be let out in the just manner. So, henceforth make gains with your wives as permitted by Allah.

    When you shall not be with your wives?
    The Myth Do not have intercourse when you are in the mosques in Allah's remembrance
    The Truth join not your wives when you are in your houses in Allah's remembrance;-
    such is the limit set by Allah; and never trespass; thus Allah makes His signs clear inorder that you may ward off.

    Please think afresh and say something solidly from your own senses with points valid. It will be greatly appreciated if 1500 years old stories and hear says are not repeated here. Any original contributions?
    May Allah Bless Us All In This!
    Masha Allah!

    Ponder over this. Allah has clearly mentioned and Praise the Lord for giving wisdom to Dr.Fazl. Is there any one pondering on this tiny dusty earth for the sake of GOOD. Almighty is keeping patience with us...Oh Lord forgive me for writing this...

    Love
    Jango O0

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      Rev_John
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      Most of you academics are the same (although, I seriously doubt you have any real credentials "doctor&quot. Then again... even if you had a PhD, I have listened to enough useless morons lecturing with a "dr." in front of their name to know such titles are a joke.

      I have a PhD (Astrophysics) and I have no idea on this subject. Education does not mean intelligence, nor does it mean knowledge or original thought, it only means the ability to retain some information and to regurgitate it when prompted by the right question.

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        farida
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        I have a PhD (Astrophysics) and I have no idea on this subject. Education does not mean intelligence, nor does it mean knowledge or original thought, it only means the ability to retain some information and to regurgitate it when prompted by the right question.

        Wise man hmm

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          Rev_John
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          #108

          Wise man hmm

          Well thank you. I appreciate that.

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            Mazhar
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            I have a PhD (Astrophysics) and I have no idea on this subject. Education does not mean intelligence, nor does it mean knowledge or original thought, it only means the ability to retain some information and to regurgitate it when prompted by the right question.

            Indeed only such of the people answer/respond who listen ;

            Root to cut; perforate. For answering one has to cut the data from the memory, transport it to the chest, the cut data/idea will create air pressure which will vibrate the hablil warid, the rope that makes reach, resulting in conversion of thought into bussy sound which will reach mouth where tongue and lips will articulte the sound which will be thrown out as recognizable speech comprising words of the language of the listner. Knowledge/Ilm is only that which could be narrated/conveyed for the perception of others. Roots of Arabic language are too scientific.

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              Rev_John
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              Indeed only such of the people answer/respond who listen ;

              Root to cut; perforate. For answering one has to cut the data from the memory, transport it to the chest, the cut data/idea will create air pressure which will vibrate the hablil warid, the rope that makes reach, resulting in conversion of thought into bussy sound which will reach mouth where tongue and lips will articulte the sound which will be thrown out as recognizable speech comprising words of the language of the listner. Knowledge/Ilm is only that which could be narrated/conveyed for the perception of others. Roots of Arabic language are too scientific.

              One of the requirements for intelligence is the ability to listen, logically learn from the information received and to put it to good use.

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                Mazhar
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                One of the requirements for intelligence is the ability to listen and logically learn from the information received and to put it to good use.

                Exactly. "Logically learn" i.e. co relating, finding the relationships, similarities and differences; differentiating fact and conjecture; and is the stage/possible only after data/information is gained.

                And these are the examples which we give/quote for the benefit of the people. But no one can reflect/ponder/analyze these except those who have the relevant information/data/knowledge.

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                  Rev_John
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                  Exactly. "Logically learn" i.e. co relating, finding the relationships, similarities and differences; differentiating fact and conjecture; and is the stage/possible only after data/information is gained.

                  And these are the examples which we give/quote for the benefit of the people. But no one can reflect/ponder/analyze these except those who have the relevant information/data/knowledge.

                  But where does that information/data/knowledge come from? From the intelligence of others.

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                    Mazhar
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                    But where does that information/data/knowledge come from? From the intelligence of others.

                    Basically the source is this

                    We subject him to exposure resultantly/for this reason/therefore We have made him capable of listening and vision.

                    Have We not made for him/man two eyes and one tongue and two lips?

                    And We have since pointed out to him two conspicuous ways?

                    Indeed it is upon Us to guide and that indeed for Us is the end and the beginning.

                    Therefore/for this reason I have since warned you people about the blazing fire.

                    It is every ones personal choice from where he seeks intelligence.

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                      inventor6
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                      Permitted for you is sexual intercourse with your wives during the nights of fasting. They are the keepers of your secrets, and you are the keepers of their secrets. GOD knew that you used to betray your souls, and He has redeemed you, and has pardoned you. Henceforth, you may have intercourse with them, seeking what GOD has permitted for you. You may eat and drink until the white thread of light becomes distinguishable from the dark thread of night at dawn. Then, you shall fast until sunset. Sexual intercourse is prohibited if you decide to retreat to the Masjid (during the last ten days of Ramadan). These are GOD's laws; you shall not transgress
                      them. GOD thus clarifies His revelations for the people, that they may attain salvation.

                      an easy understanding
                      Peace

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