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More (gasp!) Women In Hell?

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    The idiots will say "those women are not really women, they are "houris" which are better than women, therefore the notion that these sex objects are women is misleading. They are only for the pleasure of the mujahideen (who are technically ignorant, despised hairy apes) and most women will be in hell for their mental and religious deficiency."

    rotfl laugh elektro

    rotfl elektro now that is funny.

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      Rev_John
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      The idiots will say "those women are not really women, they are "houris" which are better than women, therefore the notion that these sex objects are women is misleading. They are only for the pleasure of the mujahideen (who are technically ignorant, despised hairy apes) and most women will be in hell for their mental and religious deficiency."

      rotfl laugh elektro

      Now that amazes me that someone would believe all that.

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        Meteora
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        Why not?

        • Devout sunni's believe the majority opinion/established opinion by scholars. Therefore yes, they believe more women are in hell than men (which isn't a surprise since sexist, ignorant men fabricated the hadith regarding this and all hadith in general, besides God's of course).

        • They do not believe the houris are actual women who have lived on this planet.

        Therefore that opinion is exactly what they would say. In fact it is pretty much an actual (fabricated) hadith.

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          Rev_John
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          Why not?

          • Devout sunni's believe the majority opinion/established opinion by scholars. Therefore yes, they believe more women are in hell than men (which isn't a surprise since sexist, ignorant men fabricated the hadith regarding this and all hadith in general, besides God's of course).

          • They do not believe the houris are actual women who have lived on this planet.

          Therefore that opinion is exactly what they would say. In fact it is pretty much an actual (fabricated) hadith.

          Wow! wow

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            sarah2505
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            The idiots will say "those women are not really women, they are "houris" which are better than women, therefore the notion that these sex objects are women is misleading. They are only for the pleasure of the mujahideen (who are technically ignorant, despised hairy apes) and most women will be in hell for their mental and religious deficiency."

            rotfl laugh elektro

            haha.
            so true.
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              Meteora
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              I think some out there don't believe in this exact meaning though.

              I like her take on it http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYoNDgB-jDU (lol my comment owns amirite?)

              And her's http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEcNaVkQUx4

              And...his?! http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxWVkhLIBi8

              Actually, I think the general sunni consenus is that they aren't...dumb....or less intelligent. However the general consensus that they are the majority in hell is still funny. So it's easier to go to hell for not being thankful enough to your husband than it is for cleansing Europe of Jews via torture camps and driving planes into buildings killing hundreds of unsuspecting people.

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                Recluse
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                If you look at the history of the human beings, you'll see that it was men and still are the men who cause all the problems in the world in every single area/department

                George Bush and son,
                Saddam Hussein,
                Taliban,
                Usama bin Laden,
                Stalin,
                Lenin,
                Adolph Hitler,
                Mussollini,
                Slobodan Milosevic,
                Radovan Karadzic,
                Ratko Mladic,
                Vojislav Seselj,
                Nikolai Cheuchecsku,

                I'm sorry, but that's not true. Men are usually "leaders" that is the only reason why it seems that men are "war-mongerers" or whatever. What about Thatcher?!

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                  Rev_John
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                  I'm sorry, but that's not true. Men are usually "leaders" that is the only reason why it seems that men are "war-mongerers" or whatever. What about Thatcher?!

                  What about Margaret Thatcher?

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                    MUNZIR_ALI
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                    What about Margaret Thatcher?

                    yeah, what about her? I've seen her as a great person, at least in history books.

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                      inventor6
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                      God only revealed one book. Let's think for a moment, the devil has an opinion right? Would you then give his opinion
                      credence because he has a right to it? I hope not.
                      READ YOUR QURAN!

                      This is to let the minds of those who do not believe in the Hereafter listen to such fabrications, and accept them, and thus expose their real convictions.

                      These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?

                      3929
                      GOD cites the example of a man who deals with disputing partners (Hadith), compared to a man who deals with only one consistent source (Quran). Are they the same? Praise be to GOD; most of them do not know.

                      Peace

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                        Rev_John
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                        yeah, what about her? I've seen her as a great person, at least in history books. )

                        Yes she was

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                          hope4
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                          Peace

                          There must be more women in heaven than man. I heard of a hadith that says for every man in heaven waits for him 99 virgins or something. I like the way these hadiths contradict each other rotfl

                          Peace

                          Hope

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                            nerspi
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                            nobody can actually say for certain where is more of whom. but then again, according to some, and i'm slowly starting to agree, everybody will eventually go to "heaven" so it really doesn't matter.
                            although for now, in this reality it may be more women in "hell" (state)... but that hell being experienced on this earth.
                            but that won't last, eventually it'll be more men, it varies, so we can't say for sure.
                            that's the problem with hadith, writers of them apparently didn't understand much about nature, world... how it all works. that's why it's filled with such absurdities that go against pretty much everything from quran to logic to nature... i mean i actually heard them say it says there a bull is holding the earth on his head... c-c-c...

                            nevertheless ceratin ones that may be true in a way, were probably misinterpreted. like this more women in hell. also, that one that says however you kill yourself here you will kill yourself like that in the afterlife...over and over and over.
                            i think that could also be true in some way, like, someone kills himself, and in next universe, one that would be created same as this one, another earth would be created with same evolution, same humans come and he'd be in that same body (because he didn't develope to a higher level, so he's stuck) and he'd live same life, come to same point and kill himself like that again, and after that universe dies out, a new one is created, and another earth and another evolution and another set of humans and he comes in yet the same body (because he's in a state of hell, place of no evolution, he can't make progress) and he'd do it again.
                            so perhaps the prophet saw a vision of such a man living a horrible life (of hell) and kills himself, and he saw the cycle of this and saw him keep killing himself over and over, and someone heard this, another guy wrote it down, it became a hadith... a misinterpreted hadith.

                            wow, me and my imagination, hehe

                            And by the way, brother nerspi, what's with the picture you're sharing with us, what's going on there, the demon and angel or is it Stallone and Snipes ....again.

                            it's a sign of a gemini, hehe two sides, good vs evil, blabla... hehehe

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                              unknownuser
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                              Peace,

                              nobody can actually say for certain where is more of whom. but then again, according to some, and i'm slowly starting to agree, everybody will eventually go to "heaven" so it really doesn't matter.

                              Waqaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatan qul attakhathtum AAinda Allahi AAahdan falan yukhlifa Allahu AAahdahu am taqooloona AAala Allahi ma la taAAlamoona

                              280 And they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" Say "Did you take at God a promise, so God will not break His promise, or are you saying on God what you do not know?"

                              Thalika biannahum qaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatin wagharrahum fee deenihim ma kanoo yaftaroona

                              324 This because they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" and deceived them in their religion what they were fabricating.

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                                Peace,

                                Waqaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatan qul attakhathtum AAinda Allahi AAahdan falan yukhlifa Allahu AAahdahu am taqooloona AAala Allahi ma la taAAlamoona

                                280 And they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" Say "Did you take at God a promise, so God will not break His promise, or are you saying on God what you do not know?"

                                Thalika biannahum qaloo lan tamassana alnnaru illa ayyaman maAAdoodatin wagharrahum fee deenihim ma kanoo yaftaroona

                                324 This because they say "The Fire shall not touch us only days NUMBERED" and deceived them in their religion what they were fabricating.

                                Aren't those verses referring specifically to what the Jews said/say?

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                                  aynur
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                                  I think some out there don't believe in this exact meaning though.

                                  I like her take on it http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYoNDgB-jDU (lol my comment owns amirite?)

                                  And her's http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEcNaVkQUx4

                                  And...his?! o http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxWVkhLIBi8

                                  Actually, I think the general sunni consenus is that they aren't...dumb....or less intelligent. However the general consensus that they are the majority in hell is still funny. So it's easier to go to hell for not being thankful enough to your husband than it is for cleansing Europe of Jews via torture camps and driving planes into buildings killing hundreds of unsuspecting people.

                                  I guess that being ungrateful to your husband causes them to drive planes into buildings. D
                                  Yeah I don't get that .... if because a woman is not thankful to her husband that she goes to hell, that would put her husband in a position between her and God. At least, that's the way I see it.

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                                    Peace aynur,

                                    Aren't those verses referring specifically to what the Jews said/say?

                                    No, read context which talks about Al-Kitab/The Book no mention of Jews.

                                    Also the answer given each time is a definite no regardless who said/says it.

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                                      aynur
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                                      Peace aynur,

                                      No, read context which talks about Al-Kitab/The Book no mention of Jews.

                                      Also the answer given each time is a definite no regardless who said/says it.

                                      Peace.
                                      Okay, I had to look it up in my translation to refresh my memory.

                                      My footnote for 280 says "According to popular Jewish belief, even the sinners from among the children of Israel will suffer only very limited punishment in the life to come, and will be quickly reprieved by virtue of their belonging to 'the chosen people' a belief which the Qur'an rejects."

                                      The footnote for 324 says refer to 280 & the corresponding footnote.

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                                        nerspi
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                                        regarding eternal hell... it has been discussed many times on this forum, just do the search

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                                          Meteora
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                                          Peace.
                                          Okay, I had to look it up in my translation to refresh my memory. )

                                          My footnote for 280 says "According to popular Jewish belief, even the sinners from among the children of Israel will suffer only very limited punishment in the life to come, and will be quickly reprieved by virtue of their belonging to 'the chosen people' a belief which the Qur'an rejects."

                                          The footnote for 324 says refer to 280 & the corresponding footnote.

                                          Can't spell Jewish without "ew" P

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