Who are your favorite speakers on Islam?
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Edip Yukel was recently becoming one of my favorite spokesperson on the subject of Islam. He is a courageous thinker whos reflections are very thought provoking. I was recently struck by his dissertation on, 'Rational Monotheism.' Our brother Edip seems to have taken on the cause of reconciling Islam and science and thereby liberating the Muslim mind from the 'dark ages.' As I digested his thoughts and observations an obvious imbalance kept teeter-tottering his level headed approach in my mind. I'm talking about the value of non-linear thought which does not necessarily follow any discernible pattern. The order in which things happen do not necessarily add up to truth, this is an error in logic demonstrable in case of the savage who beats his drum at dawn to make the sun rise. One thing occuring before another is no proof of cause. Edip describes his rational conversion and conformation of his belief in God. a process that he sees as a necessity for all believers. Many, dare I say most people do not share brother Yukel's intellectual gifts. Is it really that difficult to be a believer? Thought can have a linear or non-linear make up as is it seems the case with the Quran the literal and the figurative. The end or the conclusion is the important thing right? Not how we got there. The Quran is designed so that the intellectual and non-interllectual reach the same belief. Edip's outlook seems like more elittism to me. No intellectual argument or amazing sermon has made me Muslim or keeps me on the straight path. God alone makes believers. Am I less than you because I don't possess an identical understanding? My favorite Speaker on Islam is God.
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Ahmad Deedat!
I spent two weeks with him in 1980 at a summer camp organized by WAMY (World Assembly of Muslim Youth) and there I heard first time from him Code 19 of the Quran. I translated some of his books to Turkish and continued corresponding with him for a few years until I contacted Rashad in 1985.
Deedat was not only a skilled public speaker, he had a very high IQ. May God have mercy on him.
Peace,
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Edip Yukel was recently becoming one of my favorite spokesperson on the subject of Islam. He is a courageous thinker whos reflections are very thought provoking. I was recently struck by his dissertation on, 'Rational Monotheism.' Our brother Edip seems to have taken on the cause of reconciling Islam and science and thereby liberating the Muslim mind from the 'dark ages.' As I digested his thoughts and observations an obvious imbalance kept teeter-tottering his level headed approach in my mind. I'm talking about the value of non-linear thought which does not necessarily follow any discernible pattern. The order in which things happen do not necessarily add up to truth, this is an error in logic demonstrable in case of the savage who beats his drum at dawn to make the sun rise. One thing occuring before another is no proof of cause. Edip describes his rational conversion and conformation of his belief in God. a process that he sees as a necessity for all believers. Many, dare I say most people do not share brother Yukel's intellectual gifts. Is it really that difficult to be a believer? Thought can have a linear or non-linear make up as is it seems the case with the Quran the literal and the figurative. The end or the conclusion is the important thing right? Not how we got there. The Quran is designed so that the intellectual and non-interllectual reach the same belief. Edip's outlook seems like more elittism to me. No intellectual argument or amazing sermon has made me Muslim or keeps me on the straight path. God alone makes believers. Am I less than you because I don't possess an identical understanding? My favorite Speaker on Islam is God.
Peace Toor Siraj
Bravo. I liked your arguments and the rationality in them. I totally agree with your post.
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Slam all,
You are what you like, because all humanity are sympathetic the man as they are - thinking, ideology and so on. I really like all person who are speaking or talking for the sack of the God. And whenever I listen their lecture, I will be a good listener, not anti the preaching, but I don't like to sum up the source whether correct or incorrect, because I am a listener, not speaker. I can decide myself which one is sound and authentic.
Wassalam
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Haha and this portrays him likewise http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0qi1xZFH4g
He's been talking about rashad khalifa during his speeches.
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Of course they do.
RK wasn't bad. He would be perfect without bringing up the #19.
Also I wasn't racist in my last post, just a heads up.
I know that you ain't racist man.
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Yusuf Estes?
http//i149.photobucket.com/albums/s68/MJOLNIR_VII/THISISYUSUFISLAAAM.png
What on earth...?
No I did not give my suggestion.
We'll have to add Nouman Ali Khan to the list of potential candidates.
Though I would personally go for the accent and linguistic skills of Deedat. Fans of learning languages would also like him.
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Edip Yukel was recently becoming one of my favorite spokesperson on the subject of Islam. He is a courageous thinker whos reflections are very thought provoking. I was recently struck by his dissertation on, 'Rational Monotheism.' Our brother Edip seems to have taken on the cause of reconciling Islam and science and thereby liberating the Muslim mind from the 'dark ages.' As I digested his thoughts and observations an obvious imbalance kept teeter-tottering his level headed approach in my mind. I'm talking about the value of non-linear thought which does not necessarily follow any discernible pattern. The order in which things happen do not necessarily add up to truth, this is an error in logic demonstrable in case of the savage who beats his drum at dawn to make the sun rise. One thing occuring before another is no proof of cause. Edip describes his rational conversion and conformation of his belief in God. a process that he sees as a necessity for all believers. Many, dare I say most people do not share brother Yukel's intellectual gifts. Is it really that difficult to be a believer? Thought can have a linear or non-linear make up as is it seems the case with the Quran the literal and the figurative. The end or the conclusion is the important thing right? Not how we got there. The Quran is designed so that the intellectual and non-interllectual reach the same belief. Edip's outlook seems like more elittism to me. No intellectual argument or amazing sermon has made me Muslim or keeps me on the straight path. God alone makes believers. Am I less than you because I don't possess an identical understanding? My favorite Speaker on Islam is God.
Peace ;
It is the question of one's own liking and disliking. From my point of view Edip is the most confused person I have ever seen in my life.
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What happened to Dr Gary Miller? He was one of my favorites.
Peace brothers and sisters,im a noob i just joined this forum.Found alot of intresting stuff i am already into,my english isnt perfect -[ But like many of us here i am seeking the truth about the beutyfull deen Islam yes
I thought i might throw in some comments about stuff i wondered about to,cause i see many openminded people hereAnd like brother -Bigmo is saying here,Dr.Gary Miller is one of my favorites to,bright man indeed. !
But sometime ago i read that he went "underground" after Ahmad Deedat passed away or even before that,some sunnis has threatened him or something. So he doesnt show up in public like he used to but he still gives lectures i think,according to what ive read long ago,sry dont remember where i read it exactly.It all could be empty rumours ofcourse,i dont know.
True or not i feel so bad,cause that man is very smart and he knows what his talking about.
Probably,some fanatics shut him up,cause he always backed his statements with Quran instead of "mulla,imam"stories called the hadith.peace Correct me if im wrong
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Peace brothers and sisters,im a noob i just joined this forum.Found alot of intresting stuff i am already into,my english isnt perfect -[ But like many of us here i am seeking the truth about the beutyfull deen Islam yes
I thought i might throw in some comments about stuff i wondered about to,cause i see many openminded people hereAnd like brother -Bigmo is saying here,Dr.Gary Miller is one of my favorites to,bright man indeed. !
But sometime ago i read that he went "underground" after Ahmad Deedat passed away or even before that,some sunnis has threatened him or something. So he doesnt show up in public like he used to but he still gives lectures i think,according to what ive read long ago,sry dont remember where i read it exactly.It all could be empty rumours ofcourse,i dont know.
True or not i feel so bad,cause that man is very smart and he knows what his talking about.
Probably,some fanatics shut him up,cause he always backed his statements with Quran instead of "mulla,imam"stories called the hadith.peace Correct me if im wrong
Peace swordsman
Thats true he quoted and backed up his arguments using the Quran. Not only sunni's did not like him, some christians did not like him as well for the same reason.
Welcome to the forum.Peace
Hope
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Peace ;
It is the question of one's own liking and disliking. From my point of view Edip is the most confused person I have ever seen in my life.
RegardsI wonder why you said that confused
waiting for your reply.
peace
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I wonder why you said that confused
waiting for your reply.
peace
Peace
Quran says it is fully preserved.But he thinks it was adulterated for 1400 years.
Secondly ,anyone who thinks that code 19 can change the Quran ,in fact he is declaring superamacy of Code 19 over the Quran. Can any rational person think like that.
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Peace
Quran says it is fully preserved.But he thinks it was adulterated for 1400 years.
Secondly ,anyone who thinks that code 19 can change the Quran ,in fact he is declaring superamacy of Code 19 over the Quran. Can any rational person think like that.
RegadsI suppose not.
But I would like to know the reason why he thinks that way.
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Peace swordsman
Thats true he quoted and backed up his arguments using the Quran. Not only sunni's did not like him, some christians did not like him as well for the same reason.
Welcome to the forum.Peace
Hope
Thank you -hope
I reccomend all to watch this lecture given by Ahmad Deedat and Gary Millerhttp//www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQjC6XnP9lM&feature=PlayList&p=146EB7D721381E66&index=1
Peace peace