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Is shisha/hookah haraam?

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    SarahY
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    We are given freedom from The God to choose what we want to do. If someone wants to smoke I believe he won't be punished in the next life but in this life through cancer etc. But I guess most things in excess can have repercussions so we all learn differently.

    PEACE

    Yep we are given the freedom to choose so we should be wise. I'm not sure about punishment.

    Peace,
    Respectfully.

    Good point, sister.
    Sheehsa, cigarettes, alcohol, cigares, illegal drugs, pork and such things would be bad for me, i would waste my money and at the moment i don't want to invest money in the abyss.
    I'd prefer to sue this money i have for something that will benefit me.

    God bless you.
    Peace.

    me too. actually that brought something to my attention, is not tisreef a term used in the Quran? being wasteful. In that case, cigs/hooka etc could be a form of tisreef maybe?

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      In that case, cigs/hooka etc could be a form of tisreef maybe?

      Whats tisreef?

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        SarahY
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        being wasteful

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          Jack
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          Yep we are given the freedom to choose so we should be wise. I'm not sure about punishment.
          me too. actually that brought something to my attention, is not tisreef a term used in the Quran? being wasteful. In that case, cigs/hooka etc could be a form of tisreef maybe?

          Srif (seen-ra-fa) is over-indulgence/being excessive/ to act immoderately.

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            SarahY
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            is there such a thing as moderate smoking?

            Well i just think if something is bad people should refrain from it

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              Jack
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              Is driving good for the environment?

              Is using a cellphone/mobile good for our brains?

              Is eating out good for us? Snacking?

              Most things have their pros and cons.

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                MUNZIR_ALI
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                Is driving good for the environment?

                Is using a cellphone/mobile good for our brains?

                Is eating out good for us? Snacking?

                Most things have their pros and cons.

                bravo good point there bravo

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                  SarahY
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                  Is driving good for the environment?

                  Is using a cellphone/mobile good for our brains?

                  Is eating out good for us? Snacking?

                  Most things have their pros and cons.

                  Nice point but at least those have benefits. car takes you from a to b, cellphone helps you communicate, snacking might feel up your appetite.

                  what good does smoking have? you don't need to smoke to socialise.

                  just some thought.
                  Salam

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                    Jack
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                    I don't encourage smoking by any means , but as long as you are not smoking 1, 2, or 3+ packs a day, there's nothing wrong with it. Moderation.

                    I think, lifelong chain smoking can be hazardous to your health, but the same can be said for sugar, candy, etc.

                    what good does smoking have?

                    Relaxation, weight loss, etc

                    LINK

                    you don't need to smoke to socialise.

                    No, you don't.
                    No one is saying that you need to, in order to socialize, or for any other reason.

                    Peace

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                      SarahY
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                      ok np

                      yeh i was just redirecting my views to the original posts. people do it to socialise.

                      smoke stinks P

                      peace.

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                        Alen
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                        Is driving good for the environment?

                        Is using a cellphone/mobile good for our brains?

                        Is eating out good for us? Snacking?

                        Most things have their pros and cons.

                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        But now we'll make electric cars, enviroment friendly, God willing hail and we're constantly making improvements on the department of the phones, Thank God, pr also, i believe that eating out, snacking eat is only for the super-mega rich, muscle like Samuel L. Jackson muscle and/or Julia Roberts.

                        God bless you all,
                        Peace. jedi

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                          Rev_John
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                          also, i believe that eating out, snacking eat is only for the super-mega rich, muscle like Samuel L. Jackson muscle and/or Julia Roberts.

                          Or for people who live on their own and can't cook without making themselves sick?

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                            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                            I don't encourage smoking by any means , but as long as you are not smoking 1, 2, or 3+ packs a day, there's nothing wrong with it. Moderation.

                            I think, lifelong chain smoking can be hazardous to your health, but the same can be said for sugar, candy, etc.

                            This is a HUUUUGE misconception. The average smoker starts in his/her teens years. It starts by maybe 1 pack a week or 1 pack every 2 weeks. This might not seem very unhealthy, but the first symptoms start (e.g. worse sense of taste, asthma, need to catch for air more frequently during exercise/worse fitness). Then, after that, the addiction kicks in (and I am talking about smoking less than a pack per day).

                            There is arsenic (rat poison), tar (used for road-building) and over 4,000 other chemicals in a cigarette. This is absolutely NO comparison to candy/sugar.

                            Also, you are missing the fact that smoking is highly addictive, so there is no "oh, I'll smoke a pack today, then I'll take a break from cigs for all of next week, then smoke another pack, then take a break..." - It is highly addictive and very unhealthy, to say the least.

                            Another thing that I'd like to point out is that there is a physical AND a psychological addiction to smoking cigarettes, yet for shisha its mostly/always only psychological.

                            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                              MUNZIR_ALI
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                              Or for people who live on their own and can't cook without making themselves sick?

                              You can't cook? Thats too bad..Even I can do it. LOL!

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                                sarah2505
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                                It?s pretty bad for you actually.. Worse than the cigs. Some people pass out from smoking it.

                                Now the haram/halal issue

                                Quran doesn?t say ?smoking hooka/shisha/argila/pipe smoke is haram?. I think people need to draw away from haram halal statements and think of the issue in a different way, such as

                                "Will this be good for me? Will this be bad for me? If it's bad avoid it, if it is good enjoin it."

                                Is inflicting harm upon yourself a form of oppression? If so there answer is there.

                                a good question. Does freedom include the freedom to cause self-injury?
                                but anyway, I agree that it's not a haraam/halal issue, it's a health issue.

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                                  sarah2505
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                                  Is driving good for the environment?

                                  Is using a cellphone/mobile good for our brains?

                                  Is eating out good for us? Snacking?

                                  Most things have their pros and cons.

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                                  I'd say don't drive if you can walk, cause it's a short distance and you have time. But it's up to you.

                                  2 keep cellphone usage to a minimum, but there is no good alternative when you don't have access to a landline

                                  3 eating out is enjoyable, but in moderation

                                  I like your list, everything has its pros and cons, but they differ from one individual to another. Some people are just more health conscious and others, and that's their choice.

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                                    sarah2505
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                                    Or for people who live on their own and can't cook without making themselves sick?

                                    Seriously, you should learn how to cook a few simple, good meals at least. It's a very useful thing to be able to do.

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                                      Rev_John
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                                      Seriously, you should learn how to cook a few simple, good meals at least. It's a very useful thing to be able to do.

                                      Well I can really, simple stuff. It just seems a lot of trouble just to cook for one.

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                                        sarah2505
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                                        Well I can really, simple stuff. It just seems a lot of trouble just to cook for one.

                                        well, there is modern day refrigeration and microwaving...

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                                          MUNZIR_ALI
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                                          Well I can really, simple stuff. It just seems a lot of trouble just to cook for one.

                                          If you ever use cooking oil, try using it on your Cars.

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