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Singular of ka'bain in 5:6

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    unknownuser
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    and why you left 595 without explanation brother Aranold?

    salam

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      arnoldyasin
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      Peace,

      Because i need to get a better understanding of it all. I'm just researching, and i haven't had a good concept of that verse.

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        Samia
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        This thread was started by sis Brook. I believe she wanted to establish a linguistic link between ka'b = ankle, and The Ka'ba. It was not about wadu', nor was it about verse 56 only, but also 595/96.

        Why don't you re-read the thread when you think something is not in place, instead of jumping to the conclusion that people are out of their mind?

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          This thread was started by sis Brook. I believe she wanted to establish a linguistic link between ka'b = ankle, and The Ka'ba. It was not about wadu', nor was it about verse 56 only, but also 595/96.

          Why don't you re-read the thread when you think something is not in place, instead of jumping to the conclusion that people are out of their mind?

          look sister, don't accuse me with your non sense again, why you bloody say that i jumed to conclusions that people are out of their mind?, did I ever say that?

          well it seems I started to get you out of your mind, here is a simple solution, there will be no further commnets from me directed to you, but i will reserve my right to show the public where you got wrong if you do, and I hope you do the same to me, however never ever accuse me with lies

          salam

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            arnoldyasin
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            Peace,

            Chill people. Samia, although his first post was not that friendly, his second post wasn't how you recieved it. He only refered to if 56 talks about human ankles or animal ankles to give his point how he sees the use of ka'b.

            So although me and AB differ a lot, i have to say your last post was a bit unwarranted. The first reaction to his first post was enough on his first wrong approach to you. No need to slash to all of his posts.

            Please let's make this a friendly forum. I'm sick of this unfriendly enviroment where people get threatened with hell and how God is going to be mad at them.

            This is a place to learn, not to attack.

            Peace

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              This thread was started by sis Brook. I believe he wanted to establish a linguistic link between ka'b = ankle, and The Ka'ba. It was not about wadu', nor was it about verse 56 only, but also 595/96.

              Yes, I was checking to see whether there was a linguistic link between ka'b in 56 and ka'b?te in 595 and 97 rather than only ablution. Thanks to Samia's explication now I know there is alink. I am still studying the relevant part of Ayman's article. If I fail to understand any points, may I request discussing them here? In the meantime will you please keep respectful and calm.

              By the way, I am male. Brook is translation of part of my Turkish surname, cay (chi).

              Peace,
              Hasan Akcay

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                Yes, I was checking to see whether there was a linguistic link between ka'b in 56 and ka'b?te in 595 and 97 rather than only ablution. Thanks to Samia's explication now I know there is alink. I am still studying the relevant part of Ayman's article. If I fail to understand any points, may I request discussing them here? In the meantime will you please keep respectful and calm.

                Peace Hasan Ackay,

                Do you accomplish anything with your research ?

                There is a discussion here on the same subject of my curiosity http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9188.msg222602#msg222602.

                My objective is to ascertain the most accurate definition

                From the posting, Samia conclude that Ka3bain is plural of Ka3b.

                Using comparative analysis, "maraafiq" (elbow) in 56 above was not structured equally against "Ka3bain" (Dual). This evidence shows that the meaning "base" is much unlikely, if quranic definition is to be considered.

                Peace, Ashraf

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                  From the posting, Samia conclude that Ka3bain is plural of Ka3b.

                  Where did I conclude that ka3bain is plural of ka3b?

                  Yes, that's correct ka'bain means two heels, ankles. One heel, ankle is ka'b.

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                    From the posting, Samia conclude that Ka3bain is plural of Ka3b.

                    Where did I conclude that ka3bain is plural of ka3b?

                    Quote from Samia on July 08, 2006, 122020 AM
                    Yes, that's correct ka'bain means two heels, ankles. One heel, ankle is ka'b.

                    Sister,

                    Truly you are always mindful of what you write. You said ka3bain is dual not plural. ka'b is one ankle and is also referred to that protuberant bone of the foot where people tie laces of their shoes.

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                      peace Ashraf,

                      Using comparative analysis, "maraafiq" (elbow) in 56 above was not structured equally against "Ka3bain" (Dual). This evidence shows that the meaning "base" is much unlikely, if quranic definition is to be considered.

                      I do not quite understand your point. Do you mean to say the meaning of "base" is unlikely in 56 only or in general? See here for example
                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9837.0

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        Quote from Ashraf on Today at 080954 AM
                        Using comparative analysis, "maraafiq" (elbow) in 56 above was not structured equally against "Ka3bain" (Dual). This evidence shows that the meaning "base" is much unlikely, if quranic definition is to be considered.

                        I do not quite understand your point. Do you mean to say the meaning of "base" is unlikely in 56 only or in general? See here for example
                        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9837.0

                        How could both be structured equally? Hand has one elbow while each foot has two k'ab, one on each side.

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                          Peace,

                          How could both be structured equally? Hand has one elbow while each foot has two k'ab, one on each side.

                          Could someone explain this to me please? Arjalakum is a plural, but al ka'bayni is dual. In English, each foot has one ankle, despite the bone protruding on both sides of the foot i.e. it is considered one joint. But in Arabic, the dual form in this verse denotes the two protruding bits on the foot? Or is the dual form alluding to two ankles, one on each foot?

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