Hell for ALL non-Muslims?
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But then I would be out of a job laugh
@ also lose that nice collar. laugh
peace
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Unity of All Submitters
Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the converts; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.
Quran repeats this sentiment again in 567 and 2217. It seems pluralism is more than just fine.
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So what is your conclusion? If someone does not believe in the Qur'an and calls himself a Christian (but rejects the Trinity), he cannot enter heaven?
I'm wondering if because of 262 and the other verses that perhaps someone like you explained might be "punished", but not put in hell forever. I remember reading a verse that said that we're not supposed to reject any prophet, and then in the footnote Muhammad Asad noted that rejecting a prophet is almost as bad as rejecting God. For some reason I can't find that verse now, aghhhhh.....
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I'm wondering if because of 262 and the other verses that perhaps someone like you explained might be "punished", but not put in hell forever. I remember reading a verse that said that we're not supposed to reject any prophet, and then in the footnote Muhammad Asad noted that rejecting a prophet is almost as bad as rejecting God. For some reason I can't find that verse now, aghhhhh.....
Perhaps you're thinking of 4/150-152?
I'd like to ask however, if a person rejects Muhammad simply reading his story from hadiths and seerah, can you really blame him? Muhammad is portrayed negatively a lot in those sources (as well as positively in some places).
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Perhaps you're thinking of 4/150-152?
I'd like to ask however, if a person rejects Muhammad simply reading his story from hadiths and seerah, can you really blame him? Muhammad is portrayed negatively a lot in those sources (as well as positively in some places).
Yes that's it!
The footnote for 4150 says "Or 'We believe in some and we deny the others' - that is, they believe in God but not in His apostles (Zamakhshari) or, alternatively, they believe in some of the apostles and deny others (Tabari and Zamakhshari). To my mind, the first of these two interpretations is preferable inasmuch as it covers not only a rejection of some of they apostles but also a total rejection of the idea that God may have revealed His will through His chosen message-bearers. In Islam, the rejection of any or all of God's apostles constitutes almost as grave a sin as a denial of God Himself." -
Sorry but I can't agree with you here. To me 'rusulihi' (his messengers) in 4/150 here refers to living messengers, i.e. living bringers of his messengers (risalaat). I don't think it refers to accepting the story of the messenger at all. I can't blame anyone for reject , as I said, Muhammad of the hadith or even Muhammad of the Quran as explained by hadith. To me, 4/150-152 refers to people who try to cut off God from being an actor in the world. They would prefer God to be an abstract concept.
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I'm wondering if because of 262 and the other verses that perhaps someone like you explained might be "punished", but not put in hell forever. I remember reading a verse that said that we're not supposed to reject any prophet, and then in the footnote Muhammad Asad noted that rejecting a prophet is almost as bad as rejecting God. For some reason I can't find that verse now, aghhhhh.....
Hell for Non Muslims? Misunderstandings of Muslims lecture by Dr Khalid Zaheer
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMSNlcpYaf8
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Who pays you now, the church? (please excuse my ignorance). I would love to have a "religious" job.
What are your "working hours"? laugh
I would love to have a part time one too. But there are only sunnis in my country. I guess i will have to become a mullah then!! >D
hail satan >D (i'm being sarcastic)
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Ayatollah Munzir Ali? Sounds nice.
I'mm a cult of personality in my class. though they critisize me for my liberal beliefs. rotfl My country is full of conservative %$%^$
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Who pays you now, the church? (please excuse my ignorance). I would love to have a "religious" job.
What are your "working hours"? laugh
Unfortunately my church isn't big enough to be able to pay me, I earn my living officiating weddings and funerals etc.
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The legal age is 16, but most weddings range from 21 up to the couple yesterday that were in their 60s
Here the court decides, though most consider legal age of marriage to be 18.
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The legal age is 16, but most weddings range from 21 up to the couple yesterday that were in their 60s
Does that mean that you will perform your own wedding?
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welcome back to the original topic.
Re Hell for ALL non-Muslims?
I don't know.
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Of course not all Muslims will enter paradise.
All muslims will enter paradise however.
I hope you can appreciate the difference. The word "muslim" like almost all words used in The Quran is nothing but a common descriptive word, nothing special. If a person does not embody the description, the meaning behind the word, then one cant be muslim, but they can be a meaningless title such as Muslim.
