What is the definition of Prohibition ?
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Peace
You want to say ,since there is no such word as "Do not follow Muhammad PBUH 's Sunna" in the Quran ,so it is Ok to follow Sunnah of Prophet Muhammad PBUH ?Regards
You mean to say Mohammad invented something on his own and was not following Quran and what is the evidence that the sunna followed by Sunni was really practiced by Mohammad. hmm
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You mean to say Mohammad invented something on his own and was not following Quran and what is the evidence that the sunna followed by Sunni was really practiced by Mohammad. hmm
Peace Brother
My Question was if something is not mentioned in the Quran ,is this prohibited. You said ,No it is not Prohibited.
No matter if Sunna is proved or not as I gave the example of Eid,since its prohibition is not mentioned in the Quran ,so it is not prohibited (according to you).We are discussing prohibition according to mentioning in the Quran.
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Peace Brother
My Question was if something is not mentioned in the Quran ,is this prohibited. You said ,No it is not Prohibited.
No matter if Sunna is proved or not as I gave the example of Eid,since its prohibition is not mentioned in the Quran ,so it is not prohibited (according to you).We are discussing prohibition according to mentioning in the Quran.
RegardsNobody has the right to prohibit anything except God.
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Depends what you mean by sunnah.
If you say, the Prophet's culture was to eat with three fingers and i'd like to do this as a personal preference, that's fine.
If you say, I'd like to pray in this way because the Prophet did it, that's fine unless you say to others 'you're all kafirs because this is the only way'.
If you say, the sunnah of the prophet was to stone adulterors to death and kill apostates, thats blatantly contradicting the Quran.
To sum up, we all have our methods/manahij of doing things. That's not a problem at all as long as we keep Quran central and overseeing our acts.
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Depends what you mean by sunnah.
If you say, the Prophet's culture was to eat with three fingers and i'd like to do this as a personal preference, that's fine.
If you say, I'd like to pray in this way because the Prophet did it, that's fine unless you say to others 'you're all kafirs because this is the only way'.
If you say, the sunnah of the prophet was to stone adulterors to death and kill apostates, thats blatantly contradicting the Quran.
To sum up, we all have our methods/manahij of doing things. That's not a problem at all as long as we keep Quran central and overseeing our acts.
Peace
I would like to know the specific "prohibition of stoning" in the Quran ?
Thanks in advance.
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There's no ayah which states 'dont stone adulterors'. Rather, 24/2 give a different punishment for them. Therefore, we cannot change God's laws.
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There's no ayah which states 'dont stone adulterors'. Rather, 24/2 give a different punishment for them. Therefore, we cannot change God's laws.
Quranic punishment is very much Ok .But Stoning is also not Prohibited.
So you want to say "There is no prohibition of Stoning in the Quran".
Quran says no one can prohibit what Allah has not prohibited.
Regards
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Q, I think you may be interpreting this "prohibition" concept a bit too extremely, in order to prove a point.
Is there a sentence in the quran where "running someone over with your car, for the fun of it" is prohibited? No.
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Q, I think you may be interpreting this "prohibition" concept a bit too extremely, in order to prove a point.
Is there a sentence in the quran where "running someone over with your car, for the fun of it" is prohibited? No.
Am I therefore, to use your logic, allowed to do such a thing?I am not giving any logic. I am asking ;
If something is not prohibited in the Quran ,does it mean that it is prohibited ?
You can answer in yes or no.
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Quranic punishment is very much Ok .But Stoning is also not Prohibited.
So you want to say "There is no prohibition of Stoning in the Quran".
Quran says no one can prohibit what Allah has not prohibited.
Regards
By that logic. Quran says 'fight those who fight you' but it doesn't say 'forbidden to you is fighting those who DONT fight you'. Therefore, its ok to fight those who don't fight us. Sorry but this is illlogical reasoning on your part.
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I am not giving any logic. I am asking ;
If something is not prohibited in the Quran ,does it mean that it is prohibited ?
You can answer in yes or no.
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We are all adults here. You didn't say "this is my logic" but your line of questioning implies a certain logic.
If you would like, I can change what I said to "Am I therefore, to use your line of questioning, allowed to do such a thing?"
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By that logic. Quran says 'fight those who fight you' but it doesn't say 'forbidden to you is fighting those who DONT fight you'. Therefore, its ok to fight those who don't fight us. Sorry but this is illlogical reasoning on your part.
Peace
You are contradicting yourself .
Item A is not prohibited in the Quran = It is ok to adopt
Item B is not prhobited in the Quran = It is not ok to adopt .Then what is the definition of Prohibition ?
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We are all adults here. You didn't say "this is my logic" but your line of questioning implies a certain logic.
If you would like, I can change what I said to "Am I therefore, to use your line of questioning, allowed to do such a thing?"
Peace
The heading of my post to look for exact definition of the "Prohibition".
If you have some definition ,most welcome.But it should be a definition not a hodgepodge of ifs ,buts ,then ,etc.
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Peace
You are contradicting yourself .
Item A is not prohibited in the Quran = It is ok to adopt
Item B is not prhobited in the Quran = It is not ok to adopt .Then what is the definition of Prohibition ?
RegardsWhy am I contradicting myself? Stoning isn't prohibited, so its ok to do it. Fighting isn't prohibited so it's ok to do it. Where's the contradiction. Your criteria calls for an explicit 'haram' word to be used so this is the result you get.
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Why am I contradicting myself? Stoning isn't prohibited, so its ok to do it. Fighting isn't prohibited so it's ok to do it. Where's the contradiction. Your criteria calls for an explicit 'haram' word to be used so this is the result you get.
241 A chapter which We have sent down and imposed, and We have sent down in it clear signs/revelations that you may remember.
242 The adulteress and the adulterer, you shall lash each of them one hundred lashes, and do not let any pity take you over God's system if you acknowledge God and the Last Day. Let a group of the acknowledgers witness their punishment.
4221 Or do they have idols who decree for them a law which has not been authorized by God? If it were not for the word already given, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed, the transgressors will have a painful retribution.
Stoning people to death for adultery is equal to disobeying God, following/imposing a law other than God's and setting up partners to Him.
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Peace
Now you people decide ,what is meant by prohibition.
Progressive ! Please how will you define prohibition ?
Can anything which is not Prohibited in the Quran ,be Prohibited?
Lease be precise no Hadith of www.blablablabla.And no reference of your imam Bukhari Edip.
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Peace
It means Sunnah of the Prophet PBUH is allowed because it is not prohibited in the Quran ??
RegardsBut the big question is how you know that what Sunni are practicing is really sunna if you have any evidence then yes you can and you must follow him. -X