The Beast of the Earth

amuslim

Peace

Salam all,

I don't think the above verse really refers to an actual 'beast', like in an animal, it actually just refers to 'anger'.

It's rootword 'dabba', meanings to go gently, crawl, walk, flow, throw.
'Dabbatun' = whatsoever moves on earth, especially beasts of burden, moving creature, crawling creature.
'Dabattul ard' = creature of earth, insect of earth, materialistic person whose endeavors are wholly directed to the acquisition of worldy riches and material comforts and who has fallen on the pleasures of this world with all his might and main.

(Source Dictionary of the Holy Quran by Abdul Mannan Omar)

Pay close attention to the translation 'beasts of burden'. What beasts of burden? Doesn't that refer to anger? Do we as muslims/submitters not need to follow the rules of the Almighty of peace, tranquillity and love? There are a lot of verses wherein the Almighty asks us to suppress our anger and other negative emotions.
I think we therefore need to take the word 'beast' metaphorically.

To me it seems that the Almighty, the producer of all emotions and all things, justifies those negative emotions only when we channel them in a just cause, such as the punishment of the evil-doers who don't seem to stop their negativity/injustice in the world; i.e. killing the peace.

So are you saying that it will be a new type of anger? From what the verse says, it seems like it will come out, meaning be brought into existence, where before, it wasnt.

Peace

Mazhar

The point has been discussed here

http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/002.%20Meanings%20and%20Tabweeb%20of%20words/010.%20Dabatin%20Animals/10.%20Samaneta%20Azwaaj%208%20familes%20of%20mammals.htm

http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/003.%20Rashad%20Khalifa%20Intelectual%20deceit%20exposed/05.%20Very%20foundation%20ill%20conceived%20Dabatin.htm

Heart

Salam,

Peace

So are you saying that it will be a new type of anger? From what the verse says, it seems like it will come out, meaning be brought into existence, where before, it wasnt.

Peace

A 'new' type of anger? What's that? Anger is anger. Period.
Like I already stated in my above reply, anger has to be channelled in a just way. When do we let that 'beast' come out? When real human "beasts" (referring to agressive unjust people) don't give a crap about humanrights. I think it's very just to let your own 'beast' answer them in the same manner.

I remember a member here on the forum asking when we're allowed to use 'an-eye-for-an-eye-method' by the Almighty. I think when people have been giving many warnings and don't want to repent and show respect and love towards others we then can use that method to clean up our world.

Just sharing my thoughts. I ofcourse, as a lifelong student of the Almighty, could be wrong.

Ma'salama.

peace

Latifah

Hati

Assalamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

This topic is about the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) mentioned in the Holy Quran And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs (2782)

The saying of the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) "When three things appear faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from his faith 1. the rising of the sun in its place of setting, 2. the Dajjal, and 3. the beast of the earth." (Sahih Muslim, Kitabul Imaan)

So I would just like to ask what do others believe the significance of the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) is, as it is mentioned in the Holy Quran?

The Internet Relay Chat (IRC) was first deployed by Jarkko Oikarinen (possible GV = 223) at the end of August 1988 http//www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm which was based on the talk program developed earlier.

Millions of people are now chatting online. They are talking to each other on the internet.

When the Word falls on them, We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them 'Mankind had no faith in Our signs.'

over it are nineteen.

The digits formed by the following

From verse 2783 to 1146 back to 11 to 2782 and 8 31 1988 is a multiple of 19
From verse 2783 to 1146 back to 11 to 2782 and 223 and 1988 is a multiple of 19
223 and 1988, and verses 2782 to 7431 is a multiple of 19
8 31 1988, and verses 2782 to 7431 is a multiple of 19
223 and 1988, and verses 2782 to 1096 is a multiple of 19
8 31 1988, and verses 2782 to 1096 is a multiple of 19

Hati

Hati

Salam,

GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650

Could be related to the invention of an Internet Relay Chat (IRC) by Jarkko (GV = 320020 = 223) Oikarinen (http//www.livinginternet.com/r/ri_irc.htm) where for the first time he launched the talker program at the end of August 1988. The cable used in internet is fiber optics made of silica http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_dioxide earthly materials.

GV of Internet Relay Chat (IRC) = 15040020050400 2003010 3400

1.1 The above GV and GV of IRC
"a beast that shall speak unto them "
4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 15040020050400
2003010 3400 = 19 x 217126579632210947579054231 863237052737107369475268600.0000

When the Word falls on them, We shall bring forth for them out of the earth a beast that shall speak unto them 'Mankind had no faith in Our signs.'
1.2 GV of 2782 and 8 31 1988 and 223
GV of Jarkko ? inventor of IRC = 320020 = 223
Software 1st launched on 8 31 1988

6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650 8 31 1988 223 = 19x 324737689510594789805633163442189484228954238969081079015852 673705273844238955270026400106055853212634217374242634244780 5894117.0000

1.3 GV of 2782 and 320020 and 8 31 1988
GV of Jarkko ? inventor of IRC = 320020 = 223
Software 1st launched on 8 31 1988

6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650 320020 8 31 1988 = 19 x 324737689510594789805633163442189484228954238969081079015852 673705273844238955270026400106055853212634217374242634244753 6853069052.0000

1.4 From verse 2783 to 1146 11 to 2782 and 223 and 1988

27 83 27 84 27 85 27 86 27 ... 27 79 27 80 27 81 27 82 223 1988 = 19 x 146488338308041 ... 49052.0000

1.5 From verse 2783 to 1146 11 to 2782 and 8 31 1988

27 83 27 84 27 ... 27 78 27 79 27 80 27 81 27 82 8 31 1988 =1 9 x 1464883383080413830909 ... 33069052.0000

hati

Munzir

Peace bro,
I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

Hati

Peace bro,
I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

Salam Munzir,

Sorry I have to email the complete file.

God bless you.

Hati

softbird793

Are you talking about me????

??? sun

i am the creature . Free minds is the luckiest website in all world history to learn about it.now dont be that humble that you start laughing out loudly. some earthquakes coming up o my truthful humans.

MUNZIR_ALI

Peace bro,
I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

Me neither

Ahmad_Bilal

Peace,

some earthquakes coming up o my truthful humans.

Are you alleging that you can PREDICT earthquakes, or are you claiming that you CAUSE them?

afridi220

Peace,

Are you alleging that you can PREDICT earthquakes, or are you claiming that you CAUSE them?

Every one know that earthquakes are coming laugh

Bahman

Me neither

Peace
You should know GV and 28 Arabic letters to understand Hati's discovery

Peace

Bahman

Peace bro,
I'm sorry. I could not understand anything, maybe I'm not that good at Math. But what are all these numbers for?

Peace.
It is not math, it simple numbers from 1-9
But you should know Geometrical Value ?GV? of 28 Arabic letters to understand Hati?s work.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abjad_numerals
I do my best to help you and others like you.
your name in Arabic would be written Meem M Noon N Za z Ra R and their value would be
Meem M =40 Noon N=50 Za Z=900 Ra R=200
adding up those values would be 1190 but let us read your name digitally
40 50 900 200 or
4050900200
Now let us check it if is multiple of 19
=213205273.68421052631578947368421
Is not as we have reminder (decimals) but even was I do not consider it Miracle but as support for believers. http//y19.net/miracle.html

Now let us check Hati?s
GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650
And now let us show each word next to their GVs
GV of 2782 = 6 17001 610070 130100630 703010540 16002003501 30540 4125 4050 1301200800 400203040540 150 13050160 2015061 2110400501 301 10610050650
I have missed this Hati?s work and in above I am just explaining his work more in detail for those that are interested.
Hati now is working with English letters and using sources out of Quran. I am studying and thinking if I should accept such works when is out of Quran. But odd circumstances and probability for matching such already happened incidents can not be ignored.
GW I do my own study and be back soon.
Hope my post can help those that are new or do not know GV.
Peace.
B.Goharzad
04/10/2009 102638 PM

Bahman

Peace
You should know GV and 28 Arabic letters to understand Hati's discovery

Peace

Peace or just learn one letter Q and check this file. you can add it up without calculator. Only 57 Q but no human can imtate such text controlling number of Q in chapter with best composition and best meaning.
Of course Ayman has claimed

From a Code 19 point of view, what I produced is far better than Chapter 57. In fact it is far better than any chapter in the great reading. Even the simplest facts that I produced, for example 19 verses with 19 letters each are unmatched by any chapter in the great reading.

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peace.

11matrix11

First we must agree to understand symbology we will have to have a certain level of understanding
in regards to it. The Torah, Injil and Quran will have to be read together in order to understand it
thoroughly. We do not need any side books like Talmud, Misnah, Trinitarian Bible and Hadith to distort
the perspectives.
To understand the Beast of the Earth one must read the Chapter of Revelations(Sign of the Hour)
from the Injil. The Beast from the Earth comes out from the Earth and it is a lamb but speaks like
a dragon. It gives power to the first Beast that comes out from the sea(Roman Catholic Church)
or Rome. The Beast from the Earth(USA) is given the task to prepare the world to worship the
first Beast which had a wound in the head but was healed.(This refers to the end of the Roman
Empire which led to the installation of Catholic Rome). Therefore the Beast from the Earth launches
a crusade against Allah's followers or true people.
What this means is that Rome the final world empire in prophet's Daniel dream whereby he saw the
statue representing five world empires. He interpreted the dream to Nebuchadnezzar whereby the King
was impressed as he saw a similar dream but could not interpret it.
So this Beast from the Earth(USA) will be a great trial for the believers and this beast together with
the first beast are now waging all out war on the Muslim world. Now they are circling Pakistan and as
soon as they dismantle this country they will wage an all out war on the Muslims once and for all.
So try and understand the symbology in the Chapter of Revelations as it points to the current final
scenario unfolding in the MiddleEast.
The Quran rightfully said that it is the sign of the Hour.

raginggaijin

First we must agree to understand symbology we will have to have a certain level of understanding
in regards to it. The Torah, Injil and Quran will have to be read together in order to understand it
thoroughly. We do not need any side books like Talmud, Misnah, Trinitarian Bible and Hadith to distort
the perspectives.
To understand the Beast of the Earth one must read the Chapter of Revelations(Sign of the Hour)
from the Injil. The Beast from the Earth comes out from the Earth and it is a lamb but speaks like
a dragon. It gives power to the first Beast that comes out from the sea(Roman Catholic Church)
or Rome. The Beast from the Earth(USA) is given the task to prepare the world to worship the
first Beast which had a wound in the head but was healed.(This refers to the end of the Roman
Empire which led to the installation of Catholic Rome). Therefore the Beast from the Earth launches
a crusade against Allah's followers or true people.
What this means is that Rome the final world empire in prophet's Daniel dream whereby he saw the
statue representing five world empires. He interpreted the dream to Nebuchadnezzar whereby the King
was impressed as he saw a similar dream but could not interpret it.
So this Beast from the Earth(USA) will be a great trial for the believers and this beast together with
the first beast are now waging all out war on the Muslim world. Now they are circling Pakistan and as
soon as they dismantle this country they will wage an all out war on the Muslims once and for all.
So try and understand the symbology in the Chapter of Revelations as it points to the current final
scenario unfolding in the MiddleEast.
The Quran rightfully said that it is the sign of the Hour.

Can you show me in the Quran where Allah revealed to John?

"The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John," Rev. 11

We can get into the esoteric teachings and astrological signs of the Revelation, if you would like. As a former Christian, the Revelation was a conundrum. But Allah has an explanation, a description for all things, in the Quran.

Could you please provide proof of your claim the book of Revelation was revealed by Allah?

Peace.

loxbox13

Assalamo alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

This topic is about the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) mentioned in the Holy Quran And when the Word is fulfilled against them (the unjust), we shall produce from the earth a beast to (face) them He will speak to them, for that mankind did not believe with assurance in Our Signs (2782)

The saying of the Holy Prophet (sallallahu alaihi wa salaam) "When three things appear faith will not benefit one who has not previously believed or has derived no good from his faith 1. the rising of the sun in its place of setting, 2. the Dajjal, and 3. the beast of the earth." (Sahih Muslim, Kitabul Imaan)

So I would just like to ask what do others believe the significance of the Dabatul Ard (Beast of the Earth) is, as it is mentioned in the Holy Quran?

When the word is fullfolled, means in he heareafter , not in this world, we will not see a beast in this world

czmead

As the Quran confirms the truth of what remains of earlier revelation I must believe that this confirms the truth in revelations that a dark and terrible power will arise before the last day. Prophecies from all over the world speak of this and I as I do not believe in coincidence I must say that the beast is a very real thing.

What is scary is that there are a lot of catholic prophecies about a third world war after which a great ruler and a new pope will convert the muslims by force. I believe that if these prophecies are true then the ruler will be the antichrist and the new pope will be a false prophet. It makes sense in that they will preach lies and will compel people to believe their way.

Also, is not the story of Moses and Pharaoh an example of things to come? The Jews were in bondage in Egypt just as all mankind is in bondage on Earth now! The Quran states that those who practice usury are at war with God, and has not usury and the debt slavery associated with it now taken over the whole world! Usury is destroying the modern economy and throwing the world into bondage and chaos. To what end? I believe the Quran points us to revelations so that we know to what end.

Sorry if my post seems a little angry but I believe that serious darkness is coming, and fast; however, God has told us that there are messages if we will see. The dawn always comes after darkness and I believe that this is God's promise. Darkness will come, we will be tested, but God will break the back of the wicked just as He destroyed Pharaoh.

Man_of_Faith

Salaam czmead,

I have a bad feeling that WW3 is coming and have had that for a while. The global crisis is worsening and governments starts to become desperate, and countries like N. Korea act out strange.

I think something like you said is about to happen, that Satan is acting out in a desperate move, as the Truth will expand with the new God alone movement.

It is probably true that a religious group will be a culprit in the upcoming conflict, but I think traditional Islam is one part and the West with the distorted Christianity on the other. I think the war will not start on these causes, but the name of god will be misused.

If now myths about a kind of antichrist is true, I am sure God will send a holy warrior, a kind of messenger who will oppose this madness. God will protect the righteous, always.

These are feelings I have have, but I may of course be wrong.

The antichrist story is only an allegory of course, and is Satan's evil works in action. But I am sure God has not said the last word...

God bless you