Afraid to become a kafir
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You can read books alongside the Quran if you like, but make sure you think critically. I mean some sane hadith are a good examples as to how medieval Arabians lived there life. You can derive some important information, but like Alen said. You will NEVER know why the prophet did something 100% unless you ask him. What we are currently doing is reading hearsay collected by people from different countries who lived 200 years after the prophet and attempting to figure out why the prophet did something based on the hadith collectors understanding. It becomes a daunting task. In my opinion, if Muhammad really wanted me to know his life story, he would have written an autobiography...
Anyway, you can become a hadith agnostic if you want. Jeffrey Lang, is a famous example. He has researched hadith for a long time and has reached no real conclusion.
Best of Luck,
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I can't become a Quran aloner and reject the Sunnah and Ahadith as a whole. As strange as it may sound, I'm afraid that this would make me a 'kafir'. Having said that, I refuse to believe everything traditional scholars say; they are not God and make lots of mistakes. For example, when I fail to understand a particular sahih hadith, I say to myself "Allah knows best". I neither accept them, nor reject them. Only God knows if they are the prophet's words.
Who determines your status as a "kafir"? Who are you afraid of displeasing? Allah alone determines whether you are a believer or a disbeliever, and sectarian Islaamic groups don't have the authority to approve or revoke your "muslim" status. Therefore, it's wisest to follow Allah's guidance, not the guidance of men who can't harm or benefit you...
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I can't become a Quran aloner and reject the Sunnah and Ahadith as a whole. As strange as it may sound, I'm afraid that this would make me a 'kafir'. Having said that, I refuse to believe everything traditional scholars say; they are not God and make lots of mistakes. For example, when I fail to understand a particular sahih hadith, I say to myself "Allah knows best". I neither accept them, nor reject them. Only God knows if they are the prophet's words.
Peace
Please read these verses...
These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt * The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient * If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess
A revelation from the Lord of the universe * Had he uttered any other teachings * We would have punished him * We would have stopped the revelations to him
Say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "GOD's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches
We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications
When our revelations are recited to them, those who do not expect to meet us say, "Bring a Quran other than this, or change it!" Say, "I cannot possibly change it on my own. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of an awesome day
You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it
What is wrong with your logic? * Do you have another book to uphold? * In it, do you find anything you want?
Or do they have partners who decree for them matters of religion not sanctioned by God?
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Peace
Please read these verses...
These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt * The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient * If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess
A revelation from the Lord of the universe * Had he uttered any other teachings * We would have punished him * We would have stopped the revelations to him
Say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "GOD's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches
We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications
When our revelations are recited to them, those who do not expect to meet us say, "Bring a Quran other than this, or change it!" Say, "I cannot possibly change it on my own. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of an awesome day
You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it
What is wrong with your logic? * Do you have another book to uphold? * In it, do you find anything you want?
Or do they have partners who decree for them matters of religion not sanctioned by God?
bravo Thanks for providing us with verses handshake
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Peace,
Respectfully.Beautiful work, sister nsws1988, aboslutely outstanding and very clear, i mean, i get it and i'm sure that all humans beinbg understand it, without the need of a scholar. God has given all humans brains, Thank God.
I was at the speaker's corner today ..... fascinating .... some people just don't wanna give up ......
God bles syou all, sisters, brothers.
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You can read books alongside the Quran if you like, but make sure you think critically. I mean some sane hadith are a good examples as to how medieval Arabians lived there life. You can derive some important information, but like Alen said. You will NEVER know why the prophet did something 100% unless you ask him. What we are currently doing is reading hearsay collected by people from different countries who lived 200 years after the prophet and attempting to figure out why the prophet did something based on the hadith collectors understanding. It becomes a daunting task. In my opinion, if Muhammad really wanted me to know his life story, he would have written an autobiography...
Anyway, you can become a hadith agnostic if you want. Jeffrey Lang, is a famous example. He has researched hadith for a long time and has reached no real conclusion.
Best of Luck,
YaqubPeace Yaqub,
What you said about Jeffrey Lang sounds very interesting. Could I read about his works, are there any sites you know??
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Peace
Please read these verses...
These are GOD's revelations that we recite to you truthfully. In which Hadith other than GOD and His revelations do they believe?
Shall I seek other than GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? Those who received the scripture recognize that it has been revealed from your Lord, truthfully. You shall not harbor any doubt * The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words. He is the Hearer, the Omniscient * If you obey the majority of people on earth, they will divert you from the path of GOD. They follow only conjecture; they only guess
A revelation from the Lord of the universe * Had he uttered any other teachings * We would have punished him * We would have stopped the revelations to him
Say, "Whose testimony is the greatest?" Say, "GOD's. He is the witness between me and you that this Quran has been inspired to me, to preach it to you and whomever it reaches
We have permitted the enemies of every prophet - human and jinn devils - to inspire in each other fancy words, in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications
When our revelations are recited to them, those who do not expect to meet us say, "Bring a Quran other than this, or change it!" Say, "I cannot possibly change it on my own. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of an awesome day
You shall recite what is revealed to you of your Lord's scripture. Nothing shall abrogate His words, and you shall not find any other source beside it
What is wrong with your logic? * Do you have another book to uphold? * In it, do you find anything you want?
Or do they have partners who decree for them matters of religion not sanctioned by God?
Peace,
With all due respect, while these verses are in the Qur'an, the verses I quoted earlier are also in the Qur'an. We have to believe in all of them, but of course we don't know the meaning of all verses.
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Peace,
With all due respect, while these verses are in the Qur'an, the verses I quoted earlier are also in the Qur'an. We have to believe in all of them, but of course we don't know the meaning of all verses.Peace,
Respectfully.Excuse me, menaing of which verses?
It seems to me that you think that some verses are not understandable for you or maybe at this moment.
Everything has a purpose, everything happens for a reaosn, remember that.God bless ya.
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Peace Yaqub,
What you said about Jeffrey Lang sounds very interesting. Could I read about his works, are there any sites you know??
Jeffrey Lang is a famous American-Muslim convert who has written three books about his journey to Islam and the problems among the Muslim-American community today. I am not aware of any of his articles or lectures that are online, but his books should be easily accessible.
Even Angels Ask-assumes you are an atheist, like Lang, and walks you through the Quran to belief.
Struggling to Surrender- expounds on Even Angels Ask
Loosing My Religion A Call for Help-talks about problems among the American Muslim CommunityThe last two books talk about Hadith. Check at your local library for these books-most libraries have an awesome tool called interlibrary loan, by which they can get the book you request from another library for a nominal fee ($2 at my library)
or for free. Or you can always get his books from Amazon.I just got Even Angels Ask yesterday from my library.
Happy Reading O0,
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Peace,
With all due respect, while these verses are in the Qur'an, the verses I quoted earlier are also in the Qur'an. We have to believe in all of them, but of course we don't know the meaning of all verses.
Peace
I just gave the verses so that you can take the time to make up your own mind using God's words.
I think the verses I gave you are very straightforward. The ones you gave seem to be translated in ye olde english and have a lot of words in brackets. I'll look up the verses and read the verses that come before and after them and let you know my opinion.
Keep reading and studying and don't give up. It might seem easy to give up and just listen to scholars all your life but that won't benefit you in the afterlife. -
Peace
I just gave the verses so that you can take the time to make up your own mind using God's words.
I think the verses I gave you are very straightforward. The ones you gave seem to be translated in ye olde english and have a lot of words in brackets. I'll look up the verses and read the verses that come before and after them and let you know my opinion.
Keep reading and studying and don't give up. It might seem easy to give up and just listen to scholars all your life but that won't benefit you in the afterlife.bravo wisw words.