Re: How did Music become HARAM?
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Anyway...the awesome Mohsin Khan. nope
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Guess he had to do that so someone doesn't suspect the hadith rotfl
Well adding words into the Quran doesn't make it 'in the Quran' brickwall
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Anyway...the awesome Mohsin Khan. nope
"And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks (i.e. music, singing, etc.) to mislead (men) from the Path of Allah without knowledge, and takes it (the Path of Allah, or the Verses of the Qur'an) by way of mockery. For such there will be a humiliating torment (in the Hell-fire)."
Guess he had to do that so someone doesn't suspect the hadith rotfl
LOL @ translation laugh
They dont see it anyway, dont worry
1745 When you study the Quran, We place between you and those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
1746 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.
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I know the subject has strayed all over the place, but the genesis of prohibition of music in Christianity/Judaism/Islam is in Plato's Republic. In the Hebrew Bible David and the Israelites sing and play music as a religious act. But by the first century CE Jesus was relegated to hymns (according the Christian Bible). The reason being the influence of Platonistic thought.
Christians adapted his views on the human voice into Latin Chants. Jews into Nigunim. Muslims into vocalized dhikr..
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LOL @ translation laugh
They dont see it anyway, dont worry
1745 When you study the Quran, We place between you and those who do not acknowledge the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
1746 We place shields over their hearts, that they should not understand it, and deafness in their ears. If you mention your Lord in the Quran alone, they run away turning their backs in aversion.
Yup. Gotta make it clear to dem muslims that "idle talk" is singing and music and not the 6 "authentic" hadith collections! Cuz they need those to enter paradise...and stuff...yeah idle talk is music and singing rotfl got it brothar!!!!!???
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Yup. Gotta make it clear to dem muslims that "idle talk" is singing and music and not the 6 "authentic" hadith collections! Cuz they need those to enter paradise...and stuff...yeah idle talk is music and singing rotfl got it brothar!!!!!???
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bravo they sing too...but preach others not to sing brickwall
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Only Quran is halal to sing!
Right...that's why you're too busy singing it while taking the hadith for your actual guidance laugh, in fact, that is a statement of their's!
The best words are the words of God and the best guidance is the guidance of Muhammad <- another way of them saying the best words to sing (and the only halal words to sing) is the Quran and the guidance and way of life is the hadith....lolololol rotfl rotfl
Guess they forgot to obey the TRUE messenger in the Quran who says
Say, "I possess no power to harm you, nor to guide you."
"You (Muhammad) cannot guide even the ones you love. God is the one who guides whomever He wills, for He knows best those who deserve the guidance." (2856)
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Only Quran is halal to sing!
Right...that's why you're too busy singing it while taking the hadith for your actual guidance laugh, in fact, that is a statement of their's!
From what I've witnessed, many focus on the sound of the reading of the Quran, instead of the meaning. They memorise the Quran and read it correctly and with a melody, but how many honestly know what they're saying? They play it instead of music in their cars in Ramadan but they're having a conversation instead of listening to the words. They hit the school children when they pronounce a word wrong (Arabic may not even be their language) but refuse to teach them the meaning.
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From what I've witnessed, many focus on the sound of the reading of the Quran, instead of the meaning. They memorise the Quran and read it correctly and with a melody, but how many honestly know what they're saying? They play it instead of music in their cars in Ramadan but they're having a conversation instead of listening to the words. They hit the school children when they pronounce a word wrong (Arabic may not even be their language) but refuse to teach them the meaning.
that is what i've witnessed too.
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From what I've witnessed, many focus on the sound of the reading of the Quran, instead of the meaning. They memorise the Quran and read it correctly and with a melody, but how many honestly know what they're saying? They play it instead of music in their cars in Ramadan but they're having a conversation instead of listening to the words. They hit the school children when they pronounce a word wrong (Arabic may not even be their language) but refuse to teach them the meaning.
I guess it's the preconceived notion that you get good deeds/hasanat for reciting/memorising Quran so it's drummed into everyone.
Why is it its ok to listen to nasheeds/anasheeds with tambourine's/drums and sing songs in praise of God,Prophets,companions etc. it's still music.. why is that music "ok" and others not? also these days they use computers to modify and make sounds.
double standards... whatever suits them.
though i don't think people should be listening to foul music
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In the community that I grew up in (Predominately Pakistani and Palestinian community), few thought that music was haram, but in my present location (a college town)-most international students, which are the majority of our congregation believe that music is haram and verbally condemn it. Of course there are exceptions.
Most of us are familiar with the songs the ansar sang to greet the prophet after he immigrated to Medinah. I tell people that if the ansar had a guitar or a jukebox with trance music they would have also used it to greet the prophet.
It is utterly foolish to say that all music-instruments aside from what Medieval arabians used is prohibited.
I agree with Sarah though about other music- I was watching a rap video the other day.... well it was very vulgar and they were totally presenting women as sexual objects. Some things are best avoided.
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Working example
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9596617.msg14343#msg14343that was funny the guy was patient.. don't you just love when people are stuck and say (or implicate) i'm not knowledgeable enough to answer why but that's the way it is..
