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You think deleting 2 verses is bad enough...

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    MUNZIR_ALI
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    Have you ever heard about "nurmerical jugglery"

    Probably the poster himself does not understand it.
    Is this an example of "tibyaan" about which the Quran claims?
    Regards

    Nope. I'm in middle school.

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      MUNZIR_ALI
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      No dear
      All you need is able to to do 4 basic arithmetic functions + - /*

      FACT 1 the number of words in each verse is correct. (There are 77,404 words in the 6234 numbered verses.)

      so simple can you understand that?

      Pattern1 chapter no. followed by #of verses, followed by verse no. and #of words in verse, ?
      I sit clear for you or need more in detail
      All is number and no Arabic knowledge
      Sequence1 1 7 1 4 2 4 3 2 4 3 5 4 6 3 7 9 2 286 0 4 1 1 2 7 ? 114 6 0 4 1 4 2 2 3 2 4 4 5 5 6 3.
      Sequence1 chapter 1 followed by number of its verses 7 followed by verse no 1 followed by number of words in that verse 4 followed by verse no
      2 followed by number of words 4 followed by verse number 3 followed by number of words .............. 2 4 3 5 4 6 3 7 9 followed by chapter number 2 followed by total number of verses 286 followed by verse number 0 followed by word number 4 followed by verse number 1 fellowed by word number 1 1 2 7 ? and doing this with all chapters to the end ................114 6 0 4 1 4 2 2 3 2 4 4 5 5 6 3.
      A sequence of 22,717 digits is a MULTIPLE of 19! So adding or subtracting a single word would fail the trial. Praise be to God, Lord of the Universe.
      when we say multiple it means nothing left over for example 38 is multiple of 19 2x 19
      these 3 facts is the highest interlocking system which locks whole scripture letters in to code 19. Such protective security system block any change and removal or addition to the book
      Simple to understand. Impossible to imitate.
      Peace.

      WOW...

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        MUNZIR_ALI
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        We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.

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          We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) (1) to disturb the disbelievers, (2) to convince the Christians and Jews (that this is a divine scripture), (3) to strengthen the faith of the faithful, (4) to remove all traces of doubt from the hearts of Christians, Jews, as well as the believers, and (5) to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whomever He wills, and guides whomever He wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people.

          Masha Allah ( God's Creation} God bless you.
          19/10/2009 123249 PM

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            Masha Allah ( God's Creation} God bless you.
            19/10/2009 123249 PM
            )

            This is not a coincidence. This may be a miracle. hypno

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                7431 )

                "On it is nineteen. We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we made their count to be ONLY a trial/punishment for the unappreciative, to convince those who received the book, to strengthen the faith of the faithful, to remove doubts from the hearts of those who received the book, as well as the believers, and to expose those who harbor doubt in their hearts, and the disbelievers; they will say, "What did GOD mean by this allegory?" GOD thus sends astray whoever wills, and guides whoever wills. None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He. This is a reminder for the people." (7430-31)

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                      Bahman
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                      This is not a coincidence. This may be a miracle. hypno

                      No coincidence, you can not found such word in our Creator messages that is word of Satan and polluted souls around this forum making noise to stop our discussion. )

                      625
                      Some of them listen to you, but we place veils on their hearts to prevent them from understanding, and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what kind of proof they see, they cannot believe. Thus, when they come to argue with you, the disbelievers say, "These are tales from the past."

                      Do your own checking and examination. all information and tools is available by finder here
                      http//19.org/forum/index.php/mv/msg/7643/52179/0/#msg_52179
                      That is new discovery and should be checked carefully. I have not had time to do so but ready to participate in a group examination.
                      I am opening a new topic for such examination.
                      response here too as this topic is very important which may remove dust from their eyes, which may

                      • they can understand they are not deputy of God in earth unless Satan influencing them.
                      • stop telling others how to do their life and which book to read or not read.
                      • stop accusing others when they do not know them using fake id.
                      • stop using name Of Islam ( submission ) and call themselves Muslim ( 319) when they kill each hter in large number daily and they rape and torture their own cultist follower when they are in opposition.
                        They are in majority in number but in minority in straight path.
                        They are using this screen for their own corrupted belief and blindly follow what their parent followed.
                        But ending is on the way and appearing young as you (14 years old in 9 days) searching, studying, asking question, being honest is sign of rising new belief in this earth by your generation and future one. One Earth, One God and One Book, Not abusing book for daily politics, greed, wealth.power and other Satanic desires. But as Miracle for generation which is conceded by his HI Tech and science which now finds how wrong way is gone when has polluted all life privilege which our Creator granted us to be able to go trough the test.
                        Prasie be to God Lord of universe that destined me to such path to see the truth and fact for existence of Creation and solid sign by reading and understanding messages and its embedded superhuman security interlocking system. reading and understand messages for my time not past and not future.
                        Those messages are like medication for our body which older one is not effecting. Those messages are like medication for our soul, many of those messages never get old but some belongs to TIME and LOCATION. I follow my own understanding and certainly wise advises by those that their heart is free of any prejudice and hate could be a guide for learning more. I never try to be teacher as prophet was not allowed to be in such position. The teacher of messages and explaining it is Creator Only and sincere believers can be blessed and understand the messages which belongs to our time .
                        The book is authored for all humanity for ll the time to the end of world, the wise will take advise from teacher that find best meaning for messages in thier time, pst is past and future belongs to future, we are in present , just let us be a believer based on solid proof for existence of Creator and challenging Sign as Miracle and let God help them to understand the truth.
                        Peace
                        Bahman
                        19/10/2009 53703 PM
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                        nsws1988
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                        No coincidence, you can not found such word in our Creator messages that is word of Satan and polluted souls around this forum making noise to stop our discussion.

                        625
                        Some of them listen to you, but we place veils on their hearts to prevent them from understanding, and deafness in their ears. Thus, no matter what kind of proof they see, they cannot believe. Thus, when they come to argue with you, the disbelievers say, "These are tales from the past."

                        Do your own checking and examination. all information and tools is available by finder here
                        http//19.org/forum/index.php/mv/msg/7643/52179/0/#msg_52179
                        That is new discovery and should be checked carefully. I have not had time to do so but ready to participate in a group examination.
                        I am opening a new topic for such examination.
                        response here too as this topic is very important which may remove dust from their eyes, which may

                        • they can understand they are not deputy of God in earth unless Satan influencing them.
                        • stop telling others how to do their life and which book to read or not read.
                        • stop accusing others when they do not know them using fake id.
                        • stop using name Of Islam ( submission ) and call themselves Muslim ( 319) when they kill each hter in large number daily and they rape and torture their own cultist follower when they are in opposition.
                          They are in majority in number but in minority in straight path.
                          They are using this screen for their own corrupted belief and blindly follow what their parent followed.
                          But ending is on the way and appearing young as you (14 years old in 9 days) searching, studying, asking question, being honest is sign of rising new belief in this earth by your generation and future one. One Earth, One God and One Book, Not abusing book for daily politics, greed, wealth.power and other Satanic desires. But as Miracle for generation which is conceded by his HI Tech and science which now finds how wrong way is gone when has polluted all life privilege which our Creator granted us to be able to go trough the test.
                          Prasie be to God Lord of universe that destined me to such path to see the truth and fact for existence of Creation and solid sign by reading and understanding messages and its embedded superhuman security interlocking system. reading and understand messages for my time not past and not future.
                          Those messages are like medication for our body which older one is not effecting. Those messages are like medication for our soul, many of those messages never get old but some belongs to TIME and LOCATION. I follow my own understanding and certainly wise advises by those that their heart is free of any prejudice and hate could be a guide for learning more. I never try to be teacher as prophet was not allowed to be in such position. The teacher of messages and explaining it is Creator Only and sincere believers can be blessed and understand the messages which belongs to our time .
                          The book is authored for all humanity for ll the time to the end of world, the wise will take advise from teacher that find best meaning for messages in thier time, pst is past and future belongs to future, we are in present , just let us be a believer based on solid proof for existence of Creator and challenging Sign as Miracle and let God help them to understand the truth.
                          Peace
                          Bahman
                          19/10/2009 53703 PM

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                          unknownuser
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                          No coincidence, you can not found such word in our Creator messages that is word of Satan and polluted souls around this forum making noise to stop our discussion.

                          polluted souls? ??? because they don't agree with your understanding? ???

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                            nsws1988
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                            polluted souls? ??? because they don't agree with your understanding? ???

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                              stop posting off-topic posts please!

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                                nsws1988
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                                stop posting off-topic posts please!

                                then stop going off-topic

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                                  then stop going off-topic

                                  ok

                                  P.s. Just the last one

                                  nsws1988
                                  Advanced Truth Seeker


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                                  Posts 1001 bravo

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                                    hope4
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                                    http//www.inet.ba/~hardy/code_19.htm

                                    Some interesting information.

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                                      MUNZIR_ALI
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                                      Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic? )

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                                        Bahman
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                                        Hey we are discussing code 19. Is that offtopic? )

                                        and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
                                        Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
                                        They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
                                        Peace )
                                        )

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                                          and proofing how Quran is fully protected which directly relates to topic removing so many verses. They can not remove their love to their parent belief and yet not ready to examine and witness the truth. They follow their clergies and their leader instead of God and cover up their idolization by calling themselves Muslim hence they are not. When they become speechless with showing clear proof they run away and try to interrupt the discussions like their teachers.
                                          Accepting Miracle could be end to many things of their belonging from dress code to job and position , to deleting all their conjuncture, to loosing idol worshiper friends and family and many other thing. Noy many of them have gut to do so and they do only lip service and do not believe that God is supporting any believer.
                                          They have no choice unless screaming Off Topic but they can not mislead truth seekers as they are.
                                          Peace )
                                          )

                                          bravo bravo bravo

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