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Qur'an as a constitution or an inspiration

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    Yaqub
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    doesn't Saudi claim the Quran is its constitution.

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      abdalquran
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      doesn't Saudi claim the Quran is its constitution.

      Yes but their real constitution is the Mein Kempf.

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        Ahmad_Bilal
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        Yes but their real constitution is the Mein Kempf.

        Their constitution is the "Mein Kampf"?! o Why are you spreading lies on here, guy? This is a complete falsehood, and you're promoting blind ignorance on here. Please stop the foolishness...

        Peace Yaqub,

        doesn't Saudi claim the Quran is its constitution.

        Yes, Saudi Arabia primarily claims the Qur'aan (their interpretation of it) as their national constitution.

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          Their constitution is the "Mein Kampf"?! Why are you spreading lies on here, guy? This is a complete falsehood, and you're promoting blind ignorance on here. Please stop the foolishness...

          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech

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            Their constitution is the "Mein Kampf"?! o Why are you spreading lies on here, guy? This is a complete falsehood, and you're promoting blind ignorance on here. Please stop the foolishness...

            Peace Yaqub,

            Yes, Saudi Arabia primarily claims the Qur'aan (their interpretation of it) as their national constitution.

            http//www.servat.unibe.ch/icl/sa00000_.html police

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              Ahmad_Bilal
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              http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Figure_of_speech

              You could determine that as a "figure of speech" if you want, but stating that their "real" constitution is the Mein Kempf is a bold accusation, and it would be viewed as extremely offensive to a lot of people. The concepts outlined in the Mein Kempf promote extermination of entire cultural groups and upliftment of a single race. There is nothing in the Saudi Arabian constitution promoting this kind of blind hatred for anyone, nor is their monarchy considered a "dictatorship" - everyone is equally subject to the law. Regardless of how you stated it, the statement you made was wrong, and it inadvertently promotes hatred for Saudi Arabian law and government. You need to be careful with statements like those...

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                You could determine that as a "figure of speech" if you want, but stating that their "real" constitution is the Mein Kempf is a bold accusation, and it would be viewed as extremely offensive to a lot of people. The concepts outlined in the Mein Kempf promote extermination of entire cultural groups and upliftment of a single race. There is nothing in the Saudi Arabian constitution promoting this kind of blind hatred for anyone, nor is their monarchy considered a "dictatorship" - everyone is equally subject to the law. Regardless of how you stated it, the statement you made was wrong, and it inadvertently promotes hatred for Saudi Arabian law and government. You need to be careful with statements like those...

                Awesome! You wrote 'The concepts outlined in the Mein Kempf promote extermination of entire cultural groups and upliftment of a single race' and that is EXACTLY what Saudi Islam, wahabism is all about. Wahabism reduces Islam to cultural affectations. That's why you'll see white and black wahabis calling themselves Abu this and Ummu that, for example. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.

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                  Awesome! You wrote 'The concepts outlined in the Mein Kempf promote extermination of entire cultural groups and upliftment of a single race' and that is EXACTLY what Saudi Islam, wahabism is all about. Wahabism reduces Islam to cultural affectations. That's why you'll see white and black wahabis calling themselves Abu this and Ummu that, for example. Thank you for putting it so succinctly.

                  Are you seriously claiming that this is the same thing?! ) Tell me one racial or cultural group that the Saudis have exterminated, as in a physical genocide. Tell me a racial group whom the Saudis openly consider evil and deserving of death, to the point of acting on these views by enslaving and murdering them. Can you name any? You sound completely foolish by saying this is what "Wahhabism" is about. Salafis believe in following the example set by the prophet, which, in their views, is based on observance of the Qur'aan, sunna, and hadiyths. What you're alleging is ridiculous!

                  Regarding the black and white Salafis calling themselves "Abu" and "Ummu", this doesn't have anything to do with the Saudis trying to forcefully eliminate other cultural groups. The fact that blacks, whites, Arabs, Asians, and everyone else migrates to Saudi Arabia for the pilgrimage shows that this is a fallacy. Sunnis, in general, CHOOSE to adopt Arabic ("muslim&quot names as a symbol for their new identity. No Muslims, Salafi or otherwise, are forced to change their names, adopt new cultural practices, change their native language, switch countries, change their style of dress, or anything like that. It's the personal choice of the convertee. So, again, how are the Saudis even comparable to the Nazis? Be serious, dude!

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                    Are you seriously claiming that this is the same thing?! ) Tell me one racial or cultural group that the Saudis have exterminated, as in a physical genocide. Tell me a racial group whom the Saudis openly consider evil and deserving of death, to the point of acting on these views by enslaving and murdering them. Can you name any? You sound completely foolish by saying this is what "Wahhabism" is about. Salafis believe in following the example set by the prophet, which, in their views, is based on observance of the Qur'aan, sunna, and hadiyths. What you're alleging is ridiculous!

                    When my grandma went to mecca for pilgrimmage, she wasn't allowed to the A/C buses.(she said). She was allowed to the second class buses. I think that it is because she is brown.

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                      When my grandma went to mecca for pilgrimmage, she wasn't allowed to the A/C buses.(she said). She was allowed to the second class buses. I think that it is because she is brown.

                      Honestly, I doubt that was the reason, bro. Millions of people travel to Makkah for the pilgrimage every year, and there are plenty of brown, black, white, red, and yellow people on all the buses. The one who makes it to the bus first is the one who rides on it. And there are plenty of people who would happily get off the bus to make room for another person, especially if your grandmother was old when she travelled. The bus probably just ran out of space...

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                        Honestly, I doubt that was the reason, bro. Millions of people travel to Makkah for the pilgrimage every year, and there are plenty of brown, black, white, red, and yellow people on all the buses. The one who makes it to the bus first is the one who rides on it. And there are plenty of people who would happily get off the bus to make room for another person, especially if your grandmother was old when she travelled. The bus probably just ran out of space...

                        maybe. I''ll ask her again.

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