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Unneccessary & unscientific concept of breast feeding "sisters" in the Quran

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    SarahY
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    Peace all

    You got to remember people that you are not responsible for other people?s actions. why is that hard for people to comprehend?

    Many people may have a big prejudice because of things that affected them their families or loved ones. so while they may appear to insight hatred, it's more about them being emotional or even ignorant. Not saying this is right but it?s nice to understand why people think the way they think

    Also people are mixing muslims with race. Muslims are not a race. We don?t come from the same ethnicity. You could be born raised Anglo/white British or American and be Muslim! Does that mean you hate your own kind simply because they are British/American? Where is the logic? At the end of the day we are human it?s not like we choose what race we are. So such prejudices/discriminations are pathetic.

    The prejudice of migrant Muslims causing grief is a baseless argument, migrants caused the society to prosper with skills, knowledge and diversity. If anything they made the country better.

    If one kills a life it is like he killed all the life of people, if one saves a life it is like they had saved all mankind refer to 532. Innocent people are dying evrywhere even the min we speak. Just because developed countries may have issues with sadistic fools it doesn?t mean they?re any better than others.

    Life is a competition everyone is racing for the better option, i don't see many (or ANY) raising their hand for death

    Peace.

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      Recluse
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      Terrorism is evil and so are terrorists no matter who's side they are on.

      Yes, I agree. Terrorism has no religion. But I maintain that killing a few British or American civilians here and there (which is certainly deplorable and a criminal act) is not equal to killing hundreds of thousands of people across the globe; bombing entire countries and threatening others unless they "bend over". Powerful nations can do what they want and there is nobody to stop them. That is the real danger and causes much more bloodshed. And terrorism is often (not always) a result of such actions.

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        Recluse
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        yes, terrorist individuals, terrorist states, all are evil.

        But the result is not the same. State terrorism is much worse and causes much more bloodshed. It doesn't matter which state. I know very well what the Pakistani state did to Bangladeshi civilians in 1971. A Muslim state massacring Muslim civilians.

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          Recluse
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          It is interesting that some people are accused of being racist because they are obviously anti-Muslim while no one is ever accused of being racist when they are obviously anti British or anti-American. Just an observation.

          I'm definitely against invaders and murderers. I'm not being subjective or racist, I'm telling the truth. I would like to refer to my thread "Were Islamic Empires peaceful?". I was criticizing the Ottoman Empire (my ancestors) for invading other countries, and that this is a clear violation of Islamic principles and inhumane. Does that make me a racist or anti-Turkish? I don't take sides, I simply oppose invaders and murderers and terrorists.

          The problem is that the West is currently dominant and they try to silence those who tell the truth. Why do you think most westerners believe that Hezbollah are "terrorists" for example, while in reality they are freedom fighters? It is a result of manipulation, distortion and lies by western media. Just an example. There is plenty of Islam bashing in the world, we need some balance.

          If tomorrow Turkey attacked Georgia, I would be the first to condemn my country in the harshest language possible. I would never support Muslims just because they are Muslims, if they did wrong.

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            Rev_John
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            If one kills a life it is like he killed all the life of people, if one saves a life it is like they had saved all mankind refer to 532. Innocent people are dying evrywhere even the min we speak. Just because developed countries may have issues with sadistic fools it doesn?t mean they?re any better than others.

            Life is a competition everyone is racing for the better option, i don't see many (or ANY) raising their hand for death

            Peace.

            bravo bravo

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              Recluse
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              Seriously, I'm sick and tired of the Muslim bashing by westerners. Wherever I go, I hear the same nonsense. They are going to nuke Israel! They are taking over the world! They are all terrorists! There is no good Muslim! Enough with the demonizing. It's as if they are trying to turn everyone into "terrorists". They are doing to Muslim immigrants what they did to Jews. This is the stage of demonization. A future holocaust of Muslims is not as far-fetched as we might think. I'd better make plans to move to Turkey, I don't see a future here.

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                Rev_John
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                Seriously, I'm sick and tired of the Muslim bashing by westerners. Wherever I go, I hear the same nonsense. They are going to nuke Israel! They are taking over the world! They are all terrorists! There is no good Muslim! Enough with the demonizing. It's as if they are trying to turn everyone into "terrorists". They are doing to Muslim immigrants what they did to Jews. This is the stage of demonization. A future holocaust of Muslims is not as far-fetched as we might think. I'd better make plans to move to Turkey, I don't see a future here.

                I don't think that normal thinking westerners think that all Muslims are terrorists or are trying to take over the world. It is just that the majority of "labeled" terrorists say they are Muslim at the moment. It used to be the Irish before that it was the colonials in America

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                  sarah2505
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                  But the result is not the same. State terrorism is much worse and causes much more bloodshed. It doesn't matter which state. I know very well what the Pakistani state did to Bangladeshi civilians in 1971. A Muslim state massacring Muslim civilians.

                  they killed at least 3 million.

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                    I don't think that normal thinking westerners think that all Muslims are terrorists or are trying to take over the world. It is just that the majority of "labeled" terrorists say they are Muslim at the moment. It used to be the Irish before that it was the colonials in America

                    Yes, that's true. I didn't mean to generalize, of course I'm not blaming all people in the west. There are many good people here like everywhere. It's also a bit strange that individual terrorist acts are exaggerated, while state terrorism is overlooked.

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                      Recluse
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                      they killed at least 3 million.

                      there are different opinions on the numbers. i hope you are wrong, that's such a huge number (

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                        sarah2505
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                        there are different opinions on the numbers. i hope you are wrong, that's such a huge number (

                        that's what we learnt in history class, I think it might actually be an underestimate (btw, I am a Bangladeshi)

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                          Recluse
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                          that's what we learnt in history class, I think it might actually be an underestimate (btw, I am a Bangladeshi)

                          it may be true.. as far as i know, the bangladeshi state also committed massacres in the 80's against various bengali tribes. many tragic events occurred in that part of the world.

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                            dc2
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                            I think the racist card that was played was uncalled for unless I missed something. Looks like she's been scared off anyway. Shame, I was interested in hearing her thoughts.

                            http//imgur.com/1dXpW.gif

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                              sarah2505
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                              I think the racist card that was played was uncalled for unless I missed something. Looks like she's been scared off anyway. Shame, I was interested in hearing her thoughts.

                              http//imgur.com/1dXpW.gif

                              that is a creepy picture

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                                sarah2505
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                                it may be true.. as far as i know, the bangladeshi state also committed massacres in the 80's against various bengali tribes. many tragic events occurred in that part of the world.

                                not the state itself, but one political party, they are also responsible for the violence against the Hindu community a few years ago. Is it coincidence that they are also called BNP?
                                lol

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                                  Fawzia
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                                  Wow, you sound like an ignorant European racist.. sheer ignorance and bias.

                                  Nope, its sheer ignorance & bias to blame only the European colonial powers when Muslims like Ottoman Turks indulged in similar colonizations. Because the West does accept its sordid past, Muslims too are eager to jump on the bandwagon & blame them too, forgetting & concealing their own sordid record of colonizations & invasions. Europe was bad, Islamic nations too were bad. Europe has accepted may of its mistakes, Islam-instead of doing the same, is eager to proclaim Europe's mistakes as well.

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                                    Fawzia
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                                    Maybe not. hmm

                                    But maybe there is.
                                    In this article http//www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20081102-16879.html
                                    It says "a new mother?s mammary glands take over from the placenta to provide the development guidance to ensure a baby?s genetic destiny is fulfilled."

                                    The way it used to be, that the nurse-mothers raised the children ... makes sense too. But now, there are milk banks - where people donate their milk... and then you don't even know where the milk came from.

                                    I'm just saying that just because science doesn't know/hasn't discovered something, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

                                    Rather than knowing something that science hasn't even discovered, science HAS discovered the ill effects of repeated cousin couples. So any book from the Creator should've definitely included what science could so easily discover.

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                                      Fawzia
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                                      Wow Fauzia,

                                      If there is one thing I remember from my aunts and uncles who worked in the middle East (we are south asians) is that the typical middle eastern is extremely racist against the 'brown-skinned' people. Did it ever occur to you that there are south asian muslims in the UK who are pressing for a secular democracy against some of these 'crazy' people.

                                      http//www.spittoon.org/archives/3366

                                      How can you paint an entire race/nation/ ethnic group as backward? It is nothing short of racist. There are Bangladeshi immigrants in the UK who are Muslim, many are traditional muslims, but they have nothing to do with terrorism. One of the victims of the subway bombings was a Bangladeshi girl in her early 20s whereas the bombers were ethnically Pakistani or west Indian.

                                      A lot of darker skinned people face severe discrimination with respect to jobs and housing in the UK, but you haven't even considered that.

                                      Well, non Muslim Indians, who do extremely well, are South Asians too.

                                      Anyway, we all have our biases, our blind spots. Blaming Muslims is no better & no worse than blaming the evil whites for everything.

                                      I am extremely supportive for anyone's efforts-Muslim or non Muslim for democracy, women's rights, gay rights etc.

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                                        Fawzia
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                                        What do you think is happening in Kashmir today, might I ask? they have been fighting for independence for nearly 2 decades now.

                                        have you forgotten what happened in Bosnia? How can you say that non- Muslims are tolerant? No extremist group, regardless of professed religion, is tolerant, be it Al Qaeda, Shiv Sena, Lord's Army or whatever.

                                        Every group does its best to protect its rights. Don't the Jews and Hindus and Christians do the same?

                                        Do you dislike Islam, or do you dislike the practices of people who claim to follow Islam?

                                        Pakistani soldiers slaughtered and shot innocent Bangladeshis 'in the name of God,' during the 1971 liberation war. Does that mean that Islam is bad? Or that the Pakistani leadership and army of that time were war criminals?

                                        Forget only Kashmir, Muslims are fighting for independence from Southern Thailand & Southern Philippines to everywhere else. There's daily murder & mayhem in all these places & many more.Muslim minorties in Thailand & Philippines have full equality, yet they fight, yet in Malaysia, which discriminates even legally against non Muslims, the Chinese & Indians live peacefully & are still richer than Malays, despite decades of discrimination.

                                        http//thereligionofpeace.com/

                                        They felt it perfectly alright to ethnic cleanse all the non Muslims from the huge area of Pakistan Pakistan & declare it a Muslim nation, yet tiny Israel with its growing Muslim population is the source of all evil in the world.

                                        If there's no Southern Thailand, Southern Phiippines or Kashmir, they fight like the Algerians or like Pakistanis with Baluchistanis.

                                        Have the Pakistanis freed the Baluch folks, & the Turks & Iraqis the Kurds? We can talk about other places then.

                                        Sure all religions have extremist elements, yet Islam has way too many.Thats' a sorry but true fact.

                                        Just like its true that the avarage Turkish woman is better than the avarage Afghan woman.

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                                          Fawzia
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                                          First of all please mind your language.
                                          What makes you think I am Pakistani? Have I said anything explicitly or implicitly to make you think so?

                                          Well, I didn't say you're Pakistani, but your profile says that you're British. You claimed that cousin marriages don't happen amongst the Brits-well it happens amongst the Muslims in Britain.

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