All religions are okay?
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Is shirk ok? isn't that anti Quran?
They do blaspheme who say "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. (Q 5/73)
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Is shirk ok? isn't that anti Quran?
It depends how you define the word shrk.
It isn't anything to do with a number of Gods at all, and when you label people like that you yourself comit shirk for segmenting people - when they should all be one.
What is shirk to you?
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It isn't anything to do with a number of Gods at all, and when you label people like that you yourself comit shirk for segmenting people - when they should all be one.
When those who gave partners to Allah will see their "partners", they will say "Our Lord! these are our 'partners,' those whom we used to invoke besides Thee." But they will throw back their word at them (and say) "Indeed ye are liars!" (16/86)
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I?m not labelling people. Look at the link Wakas has, it shows how shirk isn?t as simply defined.
What about verses in the Quran as abdalquran points out shirk can be setting up partners with God.
You seem to implicate you have a totally different view, do share
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Simple is pointing to 30/31-32 to say that 'segmenting people is shirk'. This is incorrect. 30/32 says 'farraqoo DEENAHUM' which means they split their DEEN and become 'shiya' or parties, each party is rejoicing with what they have. In order words, these people take the incomplete teachings of God and are happy with that. This is different from people who take the whole deen (and thus dont farraqoo deenahum) and judge people according to that.
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Simple is pointing to 30/31-32 to say that 'segmenting people is shirk'. This is incorrect. 30/32 says 'farraqoo DEENAHUM' which means they split their DEEN and become 'shiya' or parties, each party is rejoicing with what they have. In order words, these people take the incomplete teachings of God and are happy with that. This is different from people who take the whole deen (and thus dont farraqoo deenahum) and judge people according to that.
Interesting makes much sense. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Interesting makes much sense. Thanks for pointing this out.
Np Jack.
I was thinking, he was thinking about the verse 6159 though it doesn't have links to shrik it also uses the same terminology "farraqoo deenahum".
Sarah, I would also look at 2/213 which explains how mankind came to be split up.
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As long as they believe in the one God and are tolerant of others
And believe in the last day and do good deeds without burdening others.
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Yes, thank you.
I hate people who burden others. And I also hate people who violate human rights.
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As long as they believe in the one God and are tolerant of others
John, i'd like to phrase it as 'God and Good'.
Also, while I believe ideologies can be idolatrous, people subscrbing to that ideology may not be. I've met Christians who belong to trinitarian churches who simply don't deal with the whole doctrine or just simply believe in God. So I refrain from judging all peaceful individuals as 'believers' or 'rejectors'.
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John, i'd like to phrase it as 'God and Good'.
Also, while I believe ideologies can be idolatrous, people subscrbing to that ideology may not be. I've met Christians who belong to trinitarian churches who simply don't deal with the whole doctrine or just simply believe in God. So I refrain from judging all peaceful individuals as 'believers' or 'rejectors'.
That is why I said "Believers in the one God"
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They do blaspheme who say "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. (Q 5/73)
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Sorry Christ isn't the partner of Allah but rather they, who or what ever they are following is the partner of Allah for christ is dead and isn't giving them any directions.
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YUSUFALI Verily ye, (unbelievers), and the (false) gods that ye worship besides Allah, are (but) fuel for Hell! to it will ye (surely) come!
PICKTHAL Lo! ye (idolaters) and that which ye worship beside Allah are fuel of hell. Thereunto ye will come.
SHAKIR Surely you and what you worship besides Allah are the firewood of hell; to it you shall come.peace
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Sorry Christ isn't the partner of Allah but rather they, who or what ever they are following is the partner of Allah for christ is dead and isn't giving them any directions.
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There are some "mainstream" Christians that believe Jesus was "God on Earth" but there are many that do not.
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Sorry Christ isn't the partner of Allah but rather they, who or what ever they are following is the partner of Allah for christ is dead and isn't giving them any directions.
I agree that Christ himself isn't the partner but that's not the point here. You claimed that shirk isn't associating partners with God but rather segmenting mankind. This is clearly false. Please see the article Wakas posted.
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Simple is pointing to 30/31-32 to say that 'segmenting people is shirk'. This is incorrect. 30/32 says 'farraqoo DEENAHUM' which means they split their DEEN and become 'shiya' or parties, each party is rejoicing with what they have. In order words, these people take the incomplete teachings of God and are happy with that. This is different from people who take the whole deen (and thus dont farraqoo deenahum) and judge people according to that.
When they split people or rather whom they should oblige simply by labeling them (as the baddies) without them having done nothing wrong is what i meant-is also shirk.
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When they split people or rather whom they should oblige simply by labeling them (as the baddies) without them having done nothing wrong is what i meant-is also shirk.
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Hmm, that's not what it says in 30/31-32. Please correct me if im wrong.
