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This is sickening to watch...Help!!!

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    belH
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    Peace

    Do you think that The God is incapable of protecting his own message ?

    peace,

    God is capable to do anything.

    Everyone is free to interpret the Qur'an according to their understanding of it .

    so are you saying that these radicals are free to misinterpret the Quean in order to use as a "license to Kill"?

    How do you know these "Radicals ' are not planted to ensnare the "Muslim Fanatics" ?

    The timing of the appearance of these radicals has one objective to invoke hate toward Quran and moslem.
    This can only be the agenda of Saten.

    Peace

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      Abdun_Nur
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      Salaam,

      Jewish self professing converts given a national, if not international platform of publicity free, explaining their views, promoting there dogma, while the media are warning those who may be inclined that they watch the websites, monitor the members of these sort of groups. This simultaneously conditions the American public to view Islam as barbaric and depraved, pure media propaganda.

      These so called terrorists also support the government story of 911, which is an absolute lie as exposed through the overwhelming evidence that has been collected, again if they were not Jewish diversionists they would expose an obvious lie publicly, not support the establishment in its propaganda.

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        Tareq
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        Meet Islamic fundamentalist AL qaeda spokesperson Yahiye Gadahn

        http//i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/01/06/gadahn.tape/art.gadahn.afp.gi.jpg

        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VXPMdYGlQ

        Yahiye's real name is Adam Pearlman, a nice Jewish boy and grandson of
        Carl Pearlman, who was on the Board of Directors of the Anti-Defamation League.

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          nimnimak_11
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          http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDuG7vgeSk

          Please let us share our thoughts of how to protect God's Messages from These Radicals who are insisting to destroy the true Message of Quran... I have been sick to my stomach since I saw them in CNN last night.

          It's disappointed me. This is why i say reason, heart and logic should have more priority over the understanding/interpretation of the scripture.

          The guy believed you should terrorize disbeleivers and that was his quranic understanding. (

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            Yaqub
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            Meet Islamic fundamentalist AL qaeda spokesperson Yahiye Gadahn

            http//i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/01/06/gadahn.tape/art.gadahn.afp.gi.jpg

            http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VXPMdYGlQ

            Yahiye's real name is Adam Pearlman, a nice Jewish boy and grandson of
            Carl Pearlman, who was on the Board of Directors of the Anti-Defamation League.

            That's interesting....

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              MUNZIR_ALI
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              Salaam,

              These so called terrorists also support the government story of 911, which is an absolute lie as exposed through the overwhelming evidence that has been collected, again if they were not Jewish diversionists they would expose an obvious lie publicly, not support the establishment in its propaganda.

              I agree. It was surely an inside job. bravo

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                belH
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                Peace all,

                We should be thinking about how to confront the Islamic Radicals' Ideology and NOT thinking about Who are these Radicals...We have enough knowledge to expose this Ideology using the Quran, and this is our Strength that we should be focusing on and utilizing...We should be focusing on establishing a PLAN that would accomplish our main objective How can we educate the Public about
                a)The Evil Nature of the Radicals' Ideology
                b)The True Message of Quran, which is different from what the Radicals are promoting.
                As I said, We have the Knowledge; however, we do not have an effective Marketing Plan that can be used to deliver our knowledge to the International Community...and in order to be as effective as the Radicals' Marketing Plan, we need the Media Tools...How can we be, for example, in CNN? How can we be in Washington Post?

                I hope you understand what I'm trying to convey.
                Peace

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                  hope4
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                  Selam

                  This is all propaganda to give muslims a bad name. These are groups that have been created by Isreal, USA????? Have no proof but its a hunch I have.

                  Peace

                  Hope

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                    unknownuser
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                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDuG7vgeSk

                    rotfl rotfl rotfl

                    "Wallahi I love Osama" rotfl

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                      nsws1988
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                      rotfl rotfl rotfl

                      "Wallahi I love Osama" rotfl

                      He sounded Egyptian when he said 'Wallahi'

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                        Alen
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                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDuG7vgeSk

                        Please let us share our thoughts of how to protect God's Messages from These Radicals who are insisting to destroy the true Message of Quran... I have been sick to my stomach since I saw them in CNN last night.

                        Peace,
                        Respectfully.

                        I have an idea let's start with just opening subjects.
                        I usually open specific subjects that are marked as controversial in the society.
                        It gets going.
                        Especially in London. London is, best to my knowledge, open minded city with people who are open minded, Thank God.
                        Here in Slovenia .....boring.

                        Peace.

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                          abdalquran
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                          Just to note, that big guy quoting the Quran saying Quran commands us to terrorise the enemies (referring to 8/60) quoted the word right (turhiboona) but the context absolutely wrong. 8/60 is directed to believers (people would accept all commands to believers from Quran, which includes 2/190). Believers in Quran, if pushed to a situation of war, cant carry out the war like cowards on people they made pledges with (pledges like vowing to serve in the army, for example). Another thing to mention is the phrase after 'turhiboona' which 'enemies of Allah'. Who are enemies of Allah? Every 'non-Muslim' or simply ppl who cause mischief on earth (like his heroes).

                          These people are like typical traditionists, they only read half of quran (to justify their evil). Thanks for the heads up, belal.

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                            MUNZIR_ALI
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                            Peace,
                            Respectfully.

                            I have an idea let's start with just opening subjects.
                            I usually open specific subjects that are marked as controversial in the society.
                            It gets going.
                            Especially in London. London is, best to my knowledge, open minded city with people who are open minded, Thank God.
                            Here in Slovenia .....boring.

                            Peace.

                            yay you are back!

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                              nsws1988
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                              These people are like typical traditionists, they only read half of quran (to justify their evil). Thanks for the heads up, belal.

                              They read nowhere near half of it! They just obsess on certain verses or parts of verses.

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                                san
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                                Peace,

                                Am i the only one who does not interpret the word
                                in 95 as "kill" or "slay"?

                                (yes, even in the context of war!)

                                This is something i written before

                                Now that i learn the Quran myself and try to find the true literal meaning of the words used, i came to the conclusion that "believers" are never ordered to kill.

                                In any situation, even in the times of war, they are commanded to preserve life--anyone's life--the best way they can, with explicit expressions of God's forgiveness and mercy (for example 95). On that verse, i don't believe that the word "kill" is an accurate translation. Unfortunately, the common translations are "kill" or "slay". After comparing the word q-T-l to the roots q-T and q-t, i concluded (my opinion) that the meaning of the word is closer to "tear ~ apart" or "break ~ down" (the large group into smaller groups or individuals), which is more in harmony with the rest of the verse.

                                I do not say that "casualties" are avoidable.

                                Insisting "not to kill" also implies that the believers must be much much stronger than the enemy. Or much much cleverer.

                                What d'you say? Naive me? Or do you see the logic behind "tearing/breaking the enemies apart/down into smaller groups"?

                                Peace.

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                                  Jafar
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                                  Meet Islamic fundamentalist AL qaeda spokesperson Yahiye Gadahn

                                  Yahiye's real name is Adam Pearlman, a nice Jewish boy and grandson of
                                  Carl Pearlman, who was on the Board of Directors of the Anti-Defamation League.

                                  Not surprising at all.. since there are so many of similarity between Jew Judaism and Arab Sunniism.
                                  And also between the Jewish Zealots and the Arab Fanatics..
                                  Which is PRIDE, PRIDE, PRIDE, HATRED, HATRED, HATRED.

                                  Salam / Peace

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                                    Cushan
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                                    Meet Islamic fundamentalist AL qaeda spokesperson Yahiye Gadahn

                                    http//i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/WORLD/meast/01/06/gadahn.tape/art.gadahn.afp.gi.jpg

                                    http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8VXPMdYGlQ

                                    Yahiye's real name is Adam Pearlman, a nice Jewish boy and grandson of
                                    Carl Pearlman, who was on the Board of Directors of the Anti-Defamation League.

                                    Meet Joseph Cohen. Former Satmar Hasid. Conspiracy or typical self-hating Jew?

                                    http//img246.imageshack.us/img246/2334/6a00e008c6b4e5883401156.jpg

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                                      Jafar
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                                      peace,

                                      God is capable to do anything.

                                      so are you saying that these radicals are free to misinterpret the Quean in order to use as a "license to Kill"?

                                      My say is YES anyone is free to interpret anything, including the Quran.
                                      But of course... every action has its own 'consequences'..

                                      The timing of the appearance of these radicals has one objective to invoke hate toward Quran and moslem.
                                      This can only be the agenda of Saten.

                                      Satan "Yea right.. blame me.. look.... I have nothing to do with those 'hating business' anymore... I have retired long time ago... I felt useless after realizing that human doesn't need any of my assistance anymore on spreading this 'hating business' worldwide ... and worse.. they're now more hateful than me!!".

                                      Salam / Peace

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                                        Tareq
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                                        Meet Joseph Cohen. Former Satmar Hasid. Conspiracy or typical self-hating Jew?

                                        http//img246.imageshack.us/img246/2334/6a00e008c6b4e5883401156.jpg

                                        And what does Mr Cohen have to do with individuals who happen to be Jewish posing as Islamic fundamentalists?

                                        Or is this a case of anyone who accuses a jew or a group of Jews of anything negative must be a conspiracy nut or a Nazi or a crazy Muzzie or a self-hating Jew?

                                        Meet three of the five dancing Israelis. Anti-semitic(TM) libel or plain ol' truth?
                                        http//www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/img/ThreeOfFiveDancingIsraelis.JPG

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                                          Cushan
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                                          You really think Adam Pearlman is just pretending to be an Islamist out of his evil Jewishness? Nevermind his recruitment by Jihadists, his assault on a liberal Imam. This kind of conspiracy mongering isn't going to make extremists go away. The Jews didn't create Islamic fundamentalism.

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