Was Exhalted Prophet really inconsiderate?
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As I understand, the translation done by Brother Badar, does not indicate, that it is addressed to the Prophet.
Peace, kn, i was replying to his reply to me
Peace San, your conclusion based on your understanding is that in this Sura addressee is "this person referred to as "you" in the sura was an orphan, misguided, and poor".
Hence conclusion is, this "you" has to be exalted prophet himself.
That to me, seems like he was concluding after my conclusion--which is why i would clarify as above.
I have no argument against the Quran as the guide for all humanity. Whatever the context of the verses is, there is always something that can be taken as a guidance, hence why i rather focus on the actions that can be taken. Especially since the actions in 939-11 is directly applicable to all of us.
Peace
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I don't know if I can help much to contribute to the topic of this thread, but for me personally, when I first read Surah Ad-Dhuha, I wasn't even thinking of Prophet Muhammad, just mankind in general.
, I feel so strongly about that Surah... I'm not an orphan by the way; but at one point in my life, I felt lost and everything in the world did not seem enough for me (I kept thinking I didn't have enough money, even though I did, and that I was poor). It was horrible... and then I got my way out of traditional Islam/Sunnism and became who I am now, you can say I received a guidance. And I feel wonderful, and enriched. This is the one surah that I keep reciting every day and it is also the one who compels me to give some of my money for the needy (different to the past where I spent none even though I earned more... and spent more for useless things lol).
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By the brightened day, and the night, when that has covered/shadowed it with darkness.
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that, O you the Messenger , your Sustainer Lord neither ever left you nor He went away.
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And certainly the Hereafter is far better for you, the Messenger as compared to the beginning.
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And certainly soon your Sustainer Lord will grant you , resultantly thereby you will be appreciatively satisfied.
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Did He not find you as orphan; thereby He provided you protected cover/shelter.
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And He found you deeply absorbed in the pursuit of absolute truth/reality for which reason He thereby showed/guided you to the absolute truth.
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And He had found you in need for which reason thereby He made you self-sufficient/above needs.
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Therefore, , as for the orphan is concerned then/for this reason you should not be harsh/over dominant.
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And as for the questioner/inquirer, for reason to satisfy his inquest you should not disappoint/let him remain floating.
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And as for the blessing of your Sustainer Lord, then/for reason you narrate about it repetitively.http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/093.%20AzZuha/093.Az%20Zuha.htm
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And He found you deeply absorbed in the pursuit of absolute truth/reality for which reason He thereby showed/guided you to the absolute truth.Peace, Mazhar,
Is that different than what in 17 do?
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And He found you deeply absorbed in the pursuit of absolute truth/reality for which reason He thereby showed/guided you to the absolute truth.Peace, Mazhar,
Is that different than what in 17 do?
It is as different as is this different from in 17
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They are like cattle, no fact of the matter is that rather they are comparatively more ignorant/unmindful/indifferent
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They are the people who are willfully heedlessly negligent. {refer7179]Deep thinking also cuts a man from his surroundings and the onlooker might think he is lost/absorbed in himself
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Thank you, that tells a lot for on all three verses 937, 17 and 7179
Let me withdraw some translations in my previous post
Surah 93 7
"And not found you, misguided, then guided"
Surah 93 8
"And not found you, poor, then enriched"
this person referred to as "you" in the sura was an orphan, misguided, and poor.
"Lost" and "in need" (taken from http//quran.uk.net/WordByWord.aspx?chapter=93&verse=7) may be more accurate than "misguided" and "poor" (taken from "English-Literal" translation)
Please forgive me for any confusion caused by inaccurate translations above.
Peace,
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Thank you, that tells a lot for on all three verses 937, 17 and 7179
Let me withdraw some translations in my previous post
"Lost" and "in need" (taken from http//quran.uk.net/WordByWord.aspx?chapter=93&verse=7) may be more accurate than "misguided" and "poor" (taken from "English-Literal" translation)
Please forgive me for any confusion caused by inaccurate translations above.
Peace,
The Researcher of above quoted website has told me that they are merely quoting the "translation" picked up from others, for only ease of visitors.
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Dear San, since you asked , here. It is from root and it does mean erring, going stray or deviating from right course. Please see Lane referance. In addition there is teshdeed on Lam following, Alif suggeting there is a attached here as well and not just
http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000083.pdf
Peace,Badar
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Dear San, since you asked , here. It is from root and it does mean erring, going stray or deviating from right course. Please see Lane referance. In addition there is teshdeed on Lam following, Alif suggeting there is a attached here as well and not just
http//www.studyquran.org/LaneLexicon/Volume5/00000083.pdf
Peace,Badar
Quote from san on Today at 113315 AM
Thank you, that tells a lot for on all three verses 937, 17 and 7179It is from . Erring, straying etc is the result and the cause is unmindfulness, indifference to the surroundings, non responsive, absorption in something that makes people unmindful as to what is happening around. Straying is by design and will and that is the extreme meaning/eventuality of the Root .
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Yes, Daad Lam Lam, i noticed the tashdid hence my question above. OK, so the nuance may not be 'catched' accurately by either 'lost' or 'misguided' but 'lost' seems more fitting than the two. IMO.
The Researcher of above quoted website has told me that they are merely quoting the "translation" picked up from others, for only ease of visitors.
I just realized that this morning. Hope they will provide Lane reference.
Peace.
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Yes, Daad Lam Lam, i noticed the tashdid hence my question above. OK, so the nuance may not be 'catched' accurately by either 'lost' or 'misguided' but 'lost' seems more fitting than the two. IMO.
But it may be noted that the word is "Active participle". He is doing an act or seeking and what he is doing/seeking has been responded as mentioned at the end of verse, relating to the act done.
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But it may be noted that the word is "Active participle". He is doing an act or seeking and what he is doing/seeking has been responded as mentioned at the end of verse, relating to the act done.
So what do you suggest for a translation that's as short as possible but still retain the nuance adequately?
"Pursuing", "Seeking", "Searching"?
or if not in a single word, what about
"Pursuing/Seeking/Searching until lost"?
Peace,