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All religions are okay?

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    san
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    Okay, what is Allah or the perfect God, that has evolved man?

    It is that visible state of relationship described by the attributes.

    Beneficience, Mercy, kindness, politness,helpfulness, favourablness......e.t.c

    Although the forces in the universe are many and diverse, it is this one particular relationship that is all powerfull.

    Sorry this isn't the normal translation.

    And i believe we are supposed to live this relationship in our daily lives, if we can.

    o

    So, you have accepted ALLAH (THE GOD) as a TRUE ilah (god) -- is that correct?

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      You are wrong......There is one religion on this planet now that is behind all humanity's
      sufferings on this planet. It is a wolf in sheeps clothing. At the forefront it looks very
      innocent but it is made up of Sun worship which has its beginnings traced to Babylon.
      It has orchestrated the 1st World War, 2nd World War and the so called war on terror
      now which is living hell for Muslims around the globe. Soon it will spread its tentacles
      in such a way that it will make living hell for the monotheist religions.
      Currently it is manouvering its final strategy to dismantle the military machine of
      Pakistan before it goes for an onslaught murder of humanity.
      Its leaders are mainly homosexuals or pedophiles and are elected as popes or the title
      given the Vicar of the son of God.
      Our Holy Quran warned us of this Trinitarian whore but sadly the Muslim world is not
      paying close attention to details. We will have to act now before it is too late.
      The Injil chapter of Revelation has described this Beast in great symbological detail
      alongwith its False Prophet. This two forces of evil is currently on an evil crusade
      against Allah's true people and they will not stop till they establish Jerusalem as
      their final temple of worship.
      My dear brothers and sisters I am speaking about the Roman Catholic Religion which
      is headquartered in the Vatican. This entity is controlling all the kings and nations
      of the earth through their deceptive mask of Christianity which is actually Lucifer
      and Sun Worship.
      The Beast is Rome with the USA as the false prophet which is used by the idolatrous
      church to make the nations of the world succumb to it.
      Check who is Obama, Bush, Kerry, Clinton and many others answering to. Where do
      their directives come from. Who is the ruling cardinal of the USA who reports personally
      to Rome? Do your homework my brothers and sisters and see who is the real antichrist.
      THE ANTICHRIST IS THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN HIDING BEHIND THE IMAGE OF CHRIST
      ALL THIS WHILE WITHOUT ANYONE REALISING IT.

      THIS RELIGION IS NOT OK.

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        san
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        11matrix11, i have to say that is indeed a cool avatar

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          Rev_John
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          You are wrong......There is one religion on this planet now that is behind all humanity's
          sufferings on this planet. It is a wolf in sheeps clothing. At the forefront it looks very
          innocent but it is made up of Sun worship which has its beginnings traced to Babylon.
          It has orchestrated the 1st World War, 2nd World War and the so called war on terror
          now which is living hell for Muslims around the globe. Soon it will spread its tentacles
          in such a way that it will make living hell for the monotheist religions.
          Currently it is manouvering its final strategy to dismantle the military machine of
          Pakistan before it goes for an onslaught murder of humanity.
          Its leaders are mainly homosexuals or pedophiles and are elected as popes or the title
          given the Vicar of the son of God.
          Our Holy Quran warned us of this Trinitarian whore but sadly the Muslim world is not
          paying close attention to details. We will have to act now before it is too late.
          The Injil chapter of Revelation has described this Beast in great symbological detail
          alongwith its False Prophet. This two forces of evil is currently on an evil crusade
          against Allah's true people and they will not stop till they establish Jerusalem as
          their final temple of worship.
          My dear brothers and sisters I am speaking about the Roman Catholic Religion which
          is headquartered in the Vatican. This entity is controlling all the kings and nations
          of the earth through their deceptive mask of Christianity which is actually Lucifer
          and Sun Worship.
          The Beast is Rome with the USA as the false prophet which is used by the idolatrous
          church to make the nations of the world succumb to it.
          Check who is Obama, Bush, Kerry, Clinton and many others answering to. Where do
          their directives come from. Who is the ruling cardinal of the USA who reports personally
          to Rome? Do your homework my brothers and sisters and see who is the real antichrist.
          THE ANTICHRIST IS THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN HIDING BEHIND THE IMAGE OF CHRIST
          ALL THIS WHILE WITHOUT ANYONE REALISING IT.

          THIS RELIGION IS NOT OK.

          Interestingly enough there are some Christian religions that believe the Roman Catholic Church is the anti-Christ, or at least serves him. Each pope has been accused of being the anti-Christ many times.

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            So, you have accepted ALLAH (THE GOD) as a TRUE ilah (god) -- is that correct?

            I wouldn't want to put myself in the spot just yet, but saying that i do believe this relationship will/ does benefit all of mankind.

            yes

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              unknownuser
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              Interestingly enough there are some Christian religions that believe the Roman Catholic Church is the anti-Christ, or at least serves him. Each pope has been accused of being the anti-Christ many times.

              what have they done to be looked at so badly?

              nope

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                san
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                I wouldn't want to put myself in the spot just yet, but saying that i do believe this relationship will/ does benefit all of mankind.

                yes

                OK, simple )

                what about this, in all-English

                Have you accepted THE GOD as a TRUE god ?

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                  Rev_John
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                  what have they done to be looked at so badly?

                  nope

                  It all started off with the inclusion of the resurrection into the bible in about the 4th or 5th century and the belief in the trinity. But each pope has changed something within the Catholic church that has (as always) met with much opposition.

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                    unknownuser
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                    OK, simple

                    what about this, in all-English

                    Have you accepted THE GOD as a TRUE god ?

                    Of course- life wouldn't have a meaning without it.

                    http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597496.0

                    peace

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                      It all started off with the inclusion of the resurrection into the bible in about the 4th or 5th century and the belief in the trinity. But each pope has changed something within the Catholic church that has (as always) met with much opposition.

                      Okay but calling them anti................isn't that too much?

                      nope

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                        Rev_John
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                        Okay but calling them anti................isn't that too much?

                        nope

                        Well yes, I agree with you, that is taking it a bit too far. I suppose their thought was that by worshiping Jesus, they were trying to take people away from God

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                          san
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                          OK, simple

                          what about this, in all-English

                          Have you accepted THE GOD as a TRUE god ?

                          Of course- life wouldn't have a meaning without it.

                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9597496.0

                          peace

                          THE GOD is god? TRUE

                          4719 So, know that not god except THE GOD and ask forgiveness for your sin and for the believing men and believing women. And THE GOD knows of your movement and your resting place.

                          2125 And We sent not before you any messenger except that We revealed to him that not god except Me. Then worship Me.

                          2014 Indeed, I am THE GOD. Not god except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.

                          1651 And THE GOD has said, "Do not take for yourselves two gods. Indeed He is one god. Then to Me, only Me, be in fear."

                          162 He sends down AlmalaA'ikat, with the inspiration of His command, upon whom He wills of His servants, "Warn that not god except Him; so fear Me."

                          619 Say, "What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, " THE GOD is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby and whomever it reaches. Do you testify that with Allah there are other gods?" Say, "I will not testify." Say, "Indeed, He is one God, and indeed, I am free of what you associate."

                          318 THE GOD witnesses not god except Him, and AlmalaA'ikat and those of knowledge, maintaining in justice. Not god except Him, the Exalted in Might, the Wise.

                          2163 And your god is one god. not god except Him, the Entirely Merciful, the Especially Merciful.

                          According to the Quran (In all-English)

                          not god except THE GOD

                          peace

                          (ed fixed quote to the all-English version)

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                            san
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                            the SIMPLEST checking algorithm ever, in all-English

                            is x god?

                            is x THE GOD?

                            EXAMPLES OF THE CHECK god or not god. TRUE or FALSE?

                            Example #1 in all-English god, THE GOD

                            is THE GOD god?

                            is THE GOD THE GOD?

                            TRUE

                            TRUE

                            Example #2 in all-English
                            god, his desire

                            is his desire god?

                            is his desire THE GOD?

                            FALSE

                            FALSE

                            then why he take as his god, his desire?
                            yeah -- why take as god, something that is not even TRUE as god?

                            Example #3 in all-English
                            for x = not THE GOD
                            god, x

                            is x god?

                            is x THE GOD?

                            FALSE

                            FALSE

                            then why he take as god, what is not THE GOD?
                            yeah -- why take as god, something that is not even TRUE as god?

                            peace

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                              san
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                              CONSEQUENCES

                              for "he/him" is not THE GOD, if you take him as god, then know that he is not a god (4719), whether he is taking you to goodness or badness

                              if you think he is inviting you to goodness, then know that everything is from THE GOD 478

                              if you think he is inviting you to badness, then know that everything is from THE GOD 478

                              THE GOD told you to choose the straight path 6151-153

                              if you think you are following the straight path while you are following THE GOD, then THE GOD will bring you to the straight path 4175

                              if you think you are following the straight path while you are following someone else than THE GOD, then wait until he contradicts THE GOD. 2122

                              When that contradiction occurs, whom will you choose?

                              peace

                              (ed fixed font style)

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                                san
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                                Finally,

                                if you don't believe in what the Qur'aAn says, then you just don't believe it yet.

                                if you don't believe that there is no god except THE GOD, then you just don't believe in it yet.

                                "not god except THE GOD"

                                peace

                                Edit note Modified by request.

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                                  Rev_John
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                                  The phrase "One God and One God only" springs to mind

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                                    Joe_Betik
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                                    salam simple,

                                    there are people who unknowingly consider themselves as equals to God - they prosecute & judge the others, since they are of the opinion that they have the absolute truth in their hands.

                                    may God guide us all on the honorable path,
                                    peace and blessings

                                    mohammed noh

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                                      unknownuser
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                                      salam simple,

                                      there are people who unknowingly consider themselves as equals to God - they prosecute & judge the others, since they are of the opinion that they have the absolute truth in their hands.

                                      may God guide us all on the honorable path,
                                      peace and blessings

                                      mohammed noh

                                      Yes either they do it themselves or have other donkeys do the work for them. Obviously in this regard they are god for the donkeys.

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                                        san
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                                        removed a line from my previous post in this thread -- it's addressed to no one in particular and should be a reminder for all of us

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                                          san
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                                          simple, as someone else said previously, you do talk in riddles laugh

                                          i wish i knew you in person, just so i don't get trapped in your riddles...

                                          Anyway, this is some verses which came to mind, especially in relation to the discussion in the thread you previously linked ("Could an Atheist be a believer.&quot ...

                                          747 And when their eyes are turned toward the companions of the Fire, they say, "Our Lord, do not place us with the wrongdoing people."

                                          748 And the companions of the AlA`raAf will call to men whom they recognize by their mark, saying, "Of no avail to you was your gathering and that you were arrogant."

                                          749 "Are these the ones whom you swore that Allah would never offer them mercy? Enter Paradise. No fear will there be concerning you, nor will you grieve."

                                          In relation to Joe Betik's thread ("having The God&quot it's sorta like the difference between believing in The God and having The God, i think.

                                          What d'you think, ma'am?

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