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    Shahzeb
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    Peace

    O you who believe, if the assembly is called to at a time of gathering, then you shall hasten towards the remembrance of God, and cease all selling. This is better for you, if you only knew. (629).

    other translations of quran talk about the Jumma Prayer in this verse? Why havent your translation mentioned the day of Jumma. And what is exactly meant by yawmialjumuAAati

    Peace

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      RA786
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      So....there is no Friday Jumma?

      wow... If we dont Meet for Hajj, Dont meet for Salah, and Dont meet for a Jumma....

      when do we ever meet?

      Should l add that to the list of things Quran Aloners dont do?

      To be honest I like the Friday Day of Congregation...with the Kutbah and the prayer.
      its the one of the only times Muslims actually meet and are togeather for the Purpose of ..."Prayer and Reflection".

      Without Jumaah...and in addition without Hajj....

      Damn...we are some Lonley People... '(

      Im going to jumma day... ;D

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        san
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        wow... If we dont Meet for Hajj, Dont meet for Salah, and Dont meet for a Jumma....

        I don't believe that's the case

        Jumu`at itself is "congregation". Hajj is obviously not lonesome -- there are hosts/arrangers and there are visitors. And Salat. i believe, is meant to be upheld together -- everyday. If you want private meditation -- there you have it, "fa tahajjad...!"

        You asked the BIG question here

        when do we ever meet?

        Should l add that to the list of things Quran Aloners dont do?

        That's why i don't like the terms QA/GA ...

        we're not aloners -- we're muslims to Allah, right?

        Peace

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          RA786
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          I don't believe that's the case

          Jumu`at itself is "congregation". Hajj is obviously not lonesome -- there are hosts/arrangers and there are visitors. And Salat. i believe, is meant to be upheld together -- everyday. If you want private meditation -- there you have it, "fa tahajjad...!"

          You asked the BIG question here

          That's why i don't like the terms QA/GA ...

          we're not aloners -- we're muslims to Allah, right?

          Peace

          Quran Aloners.... I like "Quran-Togethers' "Better! ;D D

          Yes we "Muslims" and Try to Practice the Real Sunnah the best we can.
          If you think about it we are basically trying to be "Sunnah"...(Quran alone is Sunnah)lol

          I read all of the Other Friday Jummah Topics and have this as my Conclusion...

          Eh-Hem....cough

          I am Sick of being help up by this dogmatic and Paradoxical State.

          Many have said... "Oh you cant do ---Blank----- because this one group of pagans along time ago did it for pagan reasons" ..."Therefore you can no longer do it. since its pagan in origin"

          I wont subscribe to this belief because I am Sure Pagans did just about everything, and that does not mean anything to me.

          Pagans Worshiped their false God's on Sunday, Friday, and Starurady and actually on EVERYDAY...
          Sunday was used to worship the sun. Friday was used to worship a Pagan god...

          But this really doesnt mean anything to me since I Neither Worship a pagan god on Friday, nor do I on Sunday.
          So therefore, Since I worship "Allah" the Omnipotent, I can do son on Friday, or on Sunday, or Any/Everyday.! ;D D

          Also, I personally Choose to do the Traditional Friday Jummah because I feel it is necessary in my Area since Friday is the Last "official Working day". It is Traditionally the Most Convenient day, and its contents coincide with the Quran.

          Tradtional Friday Jummah by a Muslim
          0)Prayer Call to Allah, saying Allah Alone...is the Greatest, Come to Salah. Praying to Allah is so awesome.

          1. Pray to Allah,
            2)Listen to an insightful kutbah about reflecting on submission and Gloriying Allah.
            3)Sit with My Muslim Bro's and Sis's and enjoy their close company
            4)Salat Jummah Pray to Allah
            5)Put some Zakat money in the Jar (or physically do it myself outside)
          2. Go back to my Work daily business

          If Jummah Prayer on Friday is like this.... I dont see how it is at all "Wrong". If one wishes to not participate in this Jummah and Choose another day to do it, or do it in his own home....fine that his own decision.

          For me though, Juammah on Friday is Internationally known and si well established. so for convenient and traditional reasons, ill stick to Friday.
          (Still bearing in mind that Allah's word is #1(quran), and it is Allah who is giving me this opportunity to do this.)

          Note* I dont think ALL TRADITIONS are Haram and should be avoided. Only Traditions that don't co-inside with the Quran ;D

          Example. It is Traditional to Give a "Cheers" to your Friends and Family when Eating/Drinking.
          is this Practice Haram?
          I dont think so, it co-insides, because you are being Respectful to your Fellow Brethren, and are doing it with good intentions.

          Example, If I was Christian, I would Meet togeather with other christians for the Kutbah on Sunday. sun
          Not because of the SUN, and SUN worship..... But because it is internationally Known to be Sunday for Christians.
          Worshiping the God of Christ on Sunday. ie. Worship Allah on Sunday.

          (nothing to do with the Sun, since Allah created it!) ;D

          And that's my Conclusion!

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            afridi220
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            So....there is no Friday Jumma?

            wow... If we dont Meet for Hajj, Dont meet for Salah, and Dont meet for a Jumma....

            when do we ever meet?

            Should l add that to the list of things Quran Aloners dont do?

            To be honest I like the Friday Day of Congregation...with the Kutbah and the prayer.
            its the one of the only times Muslims actually meet and are togeather for the Purpose of ..."Prayer and Reflection".

            Without Jumaah...and in addition without Hajj....

            Damn...we are some Lonley People... '(

            Im going to jumma day... ;D

            Im coming after you with a suicide belt. & '( '(

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              RA786
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              Im coming after you with a suicide belt. & '( '(

              Huh? ???

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                Bigmo
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                Quran Aloners.... I like "Quran-Togethers' "Better! ;D D

                Yes we "Muslims" and Try to Practice the Real Sunnah the best we can.
                If you think about it we are basically trying to be "Sunnah"...(Quran alone is Sunnah)lol

                I read all of the Other Friday Jummah Topics and have this as my Conclusion...

                Eh-Hem....cough

                I am Sick of being help up by this dogmatic and Paradoxical State.

                Many have said... "Oh you cant do ---Blank----- because this one group of pagans along time ago did it for pagan reasons" ..."Therefore you can no longer do it. since its pagan in origin"

                I wont subscribe to this belief because I am Sure Pagans did just about everything, and that does not mean anything to me.

                Pagans Worshiped their false God's on Sunday, Friday, and Starurady and actually on EVERYDAY...
                Sunday was used to worship the sun. Friday was used to worship a Pagan god...

                But this really doesnt mean anything to me since I Neither Worship a pagan god on Friday, nor do I on Sunday.
                So therefore, Since I worship "Allah" the Omnipotent, I can do son on Friday, or on Sunday, or Any/Everyday.! ;D D

                Also, I personally Choose to do the Traditional Friday Jummah because I feel it is necessary in my Area since Friday is the Last "official Working day". It is Traditionally the Most Convenient day, and its contents coincide with the Quran.

                Tradtional Friday Jummah by a Muslim
                0)Prayer Call to Allah, saying Allah Alone...is the Greatest, Come to Salah. Praying to Allah is so awesome.

                1. Pray to Allah,
                  2)Listen to an insightful kutbah about reflecting on submission and Gloriying Allah.
                  3)Sit with My Muslim Bro's and Sis's and enjoy their close company
                  4)Salat Jummah Pray to Allah
                  5)Put some Zakat money in the Jar (or physically do it myself outside)
                2. Go back to my Work daily business

                If Jummah Prayer on Friday is like this.... I dont see how it is at all "Wrong". If one wishes to not participate in this Jummah and Choose another day to do it, or do it in his own home....fine that his own decision.

                For me though, Juammah on Friday is Internationally known and si well established. so for convenient and traditional reasons, ill stick to Friday.
                (Still bearing in mind that Allah's word is #1(quran), and it is Allah who is giving me this opportunity to do this.)

                Note* I dont think ALL TRADITIONS are Haram and should be avoided. Only Traditions that don't co-inside with the Quran ;D

                Example. It is Traditional to Give a "Cheers" to your Friends and Family when Eating/Drinking.
                is this Practice Haram?
                I dont think so, it co-insides, because you are being Respectful to your Fellow Brethren, and are doing it with good intentions.

                Example, If I was Christian, I would Meet togeather with other christians for the Kutbah on Sunday. sun
                Not because of the SUN, and SUN worship..... But because it is internationally Known to be Sunday for Christians.
                Worshiping the God of Christ on Sunday. ie. Worship Allah on Sunday.

                (nothing to do with the Sun, since Allah created it!) ;D

                And that's my Conclusion!

                Very good input.

                For me the khutbah(sermon) is a problem more than the actual prayers. I like you believe its Ok especially if you have friends and relatives and so on who go to Jumua' or you live in a country where Jumi'a is a good place to meet people.

                I just wished the khutbah was Quranic. Friday prayers has a very good advantage in the sense it helps those who never pray or read the Quran an opportunity to do so at least once a week. But the khutbah needs to change.

                I think that the translation should not be based on ideological intepretations. We don't question sabt(saturday) regarding the sabbath in the Quran so why just Jumua'? More research needs to be done on this.

                But to be honest other than friday and saturday the rest of the Arabic week is numbers. So there is some mystery about this. The Ummayds could have just invented a week day like friday to copy the Christians or Jews.

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