Need your help
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That's right...everyone has such problems) brickwall tempt
I will try to meditate tonight..) and prayer is also good thing pr
Ibrash, God bless you) and other brothers and sisters too! sun
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Thank u, Katyusha )
God bless u ) and all us ) sun -
Assalamu alyekum!
Some questions, hope someone will answer and help me...
Allah sees everything. When i think about this, i think i gotta conrol myself every second, like, every move, every word, every thought that come to my mind. A lot of bad thoughts in my mind, i know, i just got to ignore them, but if i do this, i just feel so good about these thoughts... how i can describe this... some bad thoughts, i like them... I just cant relax and just live my life, u know... I cant do this the right way - when i wanna relax, i dont want to think about some things that i got to do, like helping others (i try to do this anyway)... i think about every move, every word, did i say that right, thinking about every step, what i did right/wrong... i just wanna relax. just live, but cant do it the right way, what u can say about this?
You are certainly not alone in the way you think;I call this 'consciousness' . You are very much aware that your thoughts are negative, which to me is a good thinig. Nothing wrong with having such thoughts, you just have to over-come them with positive thinking etc. Allah certainly doesn't expect us to be perfect creatures. Was Ibrahim perfect? Was Moosa perfect? This is why we are constantly reminded to observe as-salat. See 2945 and 11114 for its ultimate purpose.
"...If God finds in your hearts any good, He will grant you better than what He took from you, and He will forgive you. God is Forgiving, Merciful." - 870
Peace
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salamun AAalaykum ibrahim & all,
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you are not alone. people who are serious & honest about their search for a personal comprehension on God usually have similar experiences - it's up to them to admit or deny it. so, don't worry about it.
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from experience, those thoughts are not ours. they are in the mind, but they not ours. simply because when we were having those thoughts, we were never at peace, or we could not feel the peacefulness in our hearts. why don't you try to check on this the next time you have those thoughts again. feel your heart. is your heart peaceful? i doubt it.
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lets say they are not your thoughts. this is one of the ways to discern that these thoughts are not ours. lets just sit down comfortably. try to arrive at the peacefulness in the heart. have a try and do it patiently. after you have arrived at the peacefulness, be an observer. for a start, observe the thoughts. if you can observe the thoughts, definitely they are not yours, as on one hand there is you who is observing, and then there are those thoughts having a ball in the mind. try to observe the thoughts. if you can do this, then you are an observer. and those thoughts are not yours. this is 'al-furqan' (the separation) between 'i' and 'not-i', or 'mine' and 'not-mine', or in this particular case, the observer and the observed.
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since these thoughts are not ours, it is only proper that we do not entertain them. as a true observer, be detached from those thoughts. just observe in total detachment but with absolute peacefulness of the heart. over time, most people can do the separation. and you can do this, insha-Allah. those thoughts want you to ride on them. it's like a kid wanting you to play with him/her. if you entertain the kid, you will eventually lose yourselves with much unfinished business (especially you become oblivious of God). so, when you are capable of observing them with indifference, then you are giving peaceful (remember the condition of the heart?) vibes to those thoughts. shortly, after being observed, one thought will disappear. another will try to seduce you, but if you just keep on observing, then it will disappear too. over time, those thoughts will disappear, and you enjoy a tranquility of mind. .
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and over time, try to expand the horizon - observe other things such as the eyes/sight, the ears/hearing, skin/sense of touch, the body/the feel of energy, etc. but always do this in total detachment but with absolute peacefulness. insha-Allah you will have comprehension on a lot of things. .
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some people say those thoughts are 'shayateen', yet others say they are of the 'jinn' kind. in our comprehension (this is about metaphysics), for a person they are 'his/her-selves' or 'the whole of mankind' other than him/her. let's zoom in to a simple case, or in my personal case these are my-selves, that are made of all of mankind other than my true self. in other words, 'i' am the 'king' while they are all my subjects. to be the rightful 'king' in this body of mine, 'i' have to be wise in dealing with those thoughts (selves or people) - not to entertain, but to observe. or in another words, 'i' should place them according to their appropriate status, particularly as 'subjects' when 'i' am 'king'. otherwise, 'i' would become a subject in my 'kingdom'. this explains why we say in 'al-fatiha; "5. Iyya-ka na'budu wa iyya-ka nasta'in 6. Ihdina-sirat al-mustaqim." and we also read in 'al-baqara'; "154. Wala taqooloo liman yuqtalu fee sabeeli Allahi amwatun bal ahyaon walakin la tashAAuroona." there are indeed many other verses of the qur'an that give greater insights on 'nafs' (self), that merit a more in-depth study. .
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if one does not control (by making it peaceful) one's heart, one will find that the heart will accumulate diseases. and God shall compound the disease. we read about this in the Qur'an. so be careful about the heart. unchecked, the heart it becomes the breeding ground for 'shayateen'.
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the diseases of the heart will affect the bile. more information on bile is available at this link http//thesaurus.reference.com/browse/bile.
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if one does not control (by making it tranquil) one's mind, one will find that the mind will accumulate negative thoughts. and God shall scorch the minds of people with bad thoughts. we read about this in the Qur'an. so be careful about the mind. unchecked, the mind becomes the crown of 'iblees' - it becomes the king, thus the 'rabb' (a relevant post on 'rabb' is found here http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599410.msg234119#msg234119.
but as always, these are personal comprehensions. so, to gain the truth, invest in correcting the relationship with God.
hopefully we do not become 'dajjal' - human beings with only one eye on what is the truth (his or her one side of the view). there are two sides of a coin, some say. and some other people say there are three. but we say there is always the fourth side of a coin - the inside.
may God guide us on the correct path, insha-Allah.
peace!
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Jack and Joe, thank you for your great posts! King of your thoughts... i will think about that
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peace
Ibrahim i'm not sure what you mean but this verse does come to my mind
2286 God does not impose a person beyond it's capacity. For it is what it earns, and against it is what it earns.......
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Thank u, ninimak, interesting ayat!
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salamun alaykum,
what you read in my above post here (http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9599563.msg234127#msg234127) could perhaps give you guys an idea on how to understand this verse
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Wakathalika jaAAalnakum ommatan wasatan1 litakoonoo shuhadaa2 AAala alnnasi wayakoona alrrasoolu3 AAalaykum shaheedan wama jaAAalna alqiblata allatee kunta AAalayha illa linaAAlama man yattabiAAu alrrasoola mimman yanqalibu AAala AAaqibayhi wa-in kanat lakabeeratan illa AAala allatheena hada Allahu wama kana Allahu liyudeeAAa eemanakum inna Allaha bialnnasi laraoofun raheemun
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And like that We have made you (pl.) (Wakathalika jaAAalnakum) a community of mediums (ommatan wasatan) so that you might become observers on people (litakoonoo shuhadaa AAala alnnasi), and the ?rasul? becomes a personal experience for you (pl.) (wayakoona alrrasoolu AAalaykum shaheedan). We did not make the approach that you (s) are on (wama jaAAalna alqiblata allatee kunta AAalayha) except for Us to differentiate between one who follows the ?rasul? (illa linaAAlama man yattabiAAu alrrasoola), with another who returns to his old ways (mimman yanqalibu AAala AAaqibayhi). It is a big challenge indeed (wa-in kanat lakabeeratan), except for those people whom God has guided (illa AAala allatheena hada Allahu), and God is not to encumber you (pl.) in your belief (wama kana Allahu liyudeeAAa eemanakum). Verily with man, God is mercifully gracious indeed (inna Allaha bialnnasi laraoofun raheem).
WARNING this is not an intellectual understanding (understanding based on reading or lectures), but a personal comprehension (understanding based on personal experiences). no one should take this understanding to be the truth, except after consultation with God. please ask God for the truth.
wa-salam
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Peace,
I think that's just part of growing up, discovering who you are. The thing is you have to be positive, be busy, be "useful", be productive, be creative. And all the while not forgetting the god, and being grateful to him. And once in a while you just have to stand still, and reflect upon life and meditate. But it's counterproductive to be thinking bad/negative thoughts, or even thinking over everything you did and whether you did the right thing or did it the right way or what you are about to do etc. You just have to get your attitude right and have good intentions.
Peace.