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Qibla after the Quran.

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    unknownuser
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    After all these years of research - it's all so simple hmm

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      afridi220
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      After all these years of research - it's all so simple hmm

      Simple is realy very simple ;D

      http//www.scribd.com/doc/17475764/Focal-Point-or-Qibla-meaning-based-on-Quranic-sources

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        Masjid AlHaram

        to keep in mind what is forbidden (what "violations" are) is a starter,

        to establish inviolation in the community is the goal.

        Adjective inviolate

        1. Not violated; free from violation or hurt of any kind; secure against violation or impairment.

        Masjid AlHaram must exist in every community on earth

        Peace

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          Masjid AlHaram must exist in every community on earth

          wanted to edit the above, but got past 2 hrs.

          "in my opinion, Masjid AlHaram ought to exist in every community on earth, if they wished to live in peace without any violation.

          Peace

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            unknownuser
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            Simple is realy very simple ;D

            http//www.scribd.com/doc/17475764/Focal-Point-or-Qibla-meaning-based-on-Quranic-sources

            That is not simple at all, try this.

            002.128
            YUSUFALI "Our Lord! make of us Muslims/Peaceful, bowing to Thy (Will), and of our progeny a people Muslim, bowing to Thy (will); and show us our place for the celebration of (due) rites; and turn unto us (in Mercy); for Thou art the Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
            002.129
            YUSUFALI "Our Lord! send amongst them a Messenger of their own, who shall rehearse Thy Signs to them and instruct them in scripture and wisdom, and sanctify them For Thou art the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
            002.130
            YUSUFALI And who turns away from the religion of Abraham but such as debase their souls with folly? Him We chose and rendered pure in this world And he will be in the Hereafter in the ranks of the Righteous.
            002.131
            YUSUFALI Behold! his Lord said to him "Bow (thy will to Me)" He said "I bow (my will) to the Lord and Cherisher of the Universe."
            002.132
            YUSUFALI And this was the legacy that Abraham left to his sons, and so did Jacob; "Oh my sons! Allah hath chosen the Faith for you; then die not except in the Faith of Islam."
            002.133
            YUSUFALI Were ye witnesses when death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons "What will ye worship after me?" They said "We shall worship Thy god and the god of thy fathers, of Abraham, Isma'il and Isaac,- the one (True) Allah To Him we bow (in Islam/Peacefulness)."
            002.134
            YUSUFALI That was a people that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case!
            002.135
            YUSUFALI They say "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with Allah."
            002.136
            YUSUFALI Say ye "We believe in Allah, and the revelation given to us, and to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and that given to Moses and Jesus, and that given to (all) prophets from their Lord We make no difference between one and another of them And we bow to Allah (in Islam)."
            002.137
            YUSUFALI So if they believe as ye believe, they are indeed on the right path; but if they turn back, it is they who are in schism; but Allah will suffice thee as against them, and He is the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.
            002.138
            YUSUFALI (Our religion is) the Baptism of Allah And who can baptize better than Allah? And it is He Whom we worship.
            002.139
            YUSUFALI Say Will ye dispute with us about Allah, seeing that He is our Lord and your Lord; that we are responsible for our doings and ye for yours; and that We are sincere (in our faith) in Him?
            002.140
            YUSUFALI Or do ye say that Abraham, Isma'il Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say Do ye know better than Allah? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from Allah? but Allah is not unmindful of what ye do!
            002.141
            YUSUFALI That was a people that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case
            002.142

            In 2135 the jews and the Christians want these people to follow them ? their beliefs is their Qibla , but the quran is saying NO they aught not to follow the jews and Christians but be a peaceful people-muslims.The only way to this is remember actions that are forbidden Masjid Al HARAAM.
            The fools among the people cannot understand why these people are changing from tough thugs to lovers of peace.

            YUSUFALI The fools among the people will say "What hath turned them from the Qibla to which they were used?" Say To Allah belong both east and West He guideth whom He will to a Way that is straight.

            It?s only the righteous peace loving community that can be a justly balanced-witnesses over nations-surely!

            002.143
            YUSUFALI Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Messenger from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by Allah. And never would Allah Make your faith of no effect. For Allah is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.
            002.144
            YUSUFALI We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is Allah unmindful of what they do.
            002.145

            When you want peacefulness you will start to recognize all that is forbidden-so you can avoid it.

            YUSUFALI Even if thou wert to bring to the people of the Book all the Signs (together), they would not follow Thy Qibla; nor art thou going to follow their Qibla; nor indeed will they follow each other's Qibla. If thou after the knowledge hath reached thee, Wert to follow their (vain) desires,-then wert thou Indeed (clearly) in the wrong.
            002.146

            You cannot make people in schism follow your Qibla- those dedicated to their religious cults.

            YUSUFALI The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know.
            002.147
            YUSUFALI The Truth is from thy Lord; so be not at all in doubt.
            002.148
            YUSUFALI To each is a goal to which Allah turns him; then strive together (as in a race) Towards all that is good. Wheresoever ye are, Allah will bring you Together. For Allah Hath power over all things.
            002.149

            Always keep the forbidden actions (Msjid Al Haraam) in sight so you can avoid them.

            YUSUFALI From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.
            002.150
            YUSUFALI So from whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; and wheresoever ye are, Turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people, except those of them that are bent on wickedness; so fear them not, but fear Me; and that I may complete My favours on you, and ye May (consent to) be guided;
            002.151
            YUSUFALI A similar (favour have ye already received) in that We have sent among you a Messenger of your own, rehearsing to you Our Signs, and sanctifying you, and instructing you in Scripture and Wisdom, and in new knowledge.
            002.152

            peace

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              wanted to edit the above, but got past 2 hrs.

              "in my opinion, Masjid AlHaram ought to exist in every community on earth, if they wished to live in peace without any violation.

              Peace

              absolutely.

              peace

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