Has anyone here read the bible?

Bigmo

I live in a place where a Bible in my hands can be a problem. However I promised myself that I will read the OT and NT when I escape from Sunnistan (

This subject is a contentious one here, especially regarding the OT since many things there cause people to cringe. However I think that the NT is less problematic for a lot of people. Many aspects of the OT reminds people of the hadith canons and that makes them cringe. However I think the emphasis should be not what we think but WHAT DOES THE QURAN THINK abut the previous scriptures and I have not seen that debate here taken seriously once again because of OT phobia.

But I will say this. If you want to be a serious Quranist then you need to have a throrough understanding of the OT and NT and Judaic and Christian traditions as well as pagan traditions. Thats if you want to be a serious Quranist, meaning actvist. Its not easy to do away with the OT. Many early Christians wanted to but couldn't.

To be fair though many OT prophets and stories are in the Quran so I understand why many Quranist would not bother. But to be an actvist you must know it well since many Quranic verses could only be understood if you have knowledge of the OT and the Talmud. Maybe not an expert knowledge but at least a thorough understanding.

Its something I am going to have to do but not now. Internet has good sources but its never the same as reading it yourself since you will get the feel and overall picture and not bits and pieces as you get in the internet.

Rev_John

I live in a place where a Bible in my hands can be a problem. However I promised myself that I will read the OT and NT when I escape from Sunnistan (

This subject is a contentious one here, especially regarding the OT since many things there cause people to cringe. However I think that the NT is less problematic for a lot of people. Many aspects of the OT reminds people of the hadith canons and that makes them cringe. However I think the emphasis should be not what we think but WHAT DOES THE QURAN THINK abut the previous scriptures and I have not seen that debate here taken seriously once again because of OT phobia.

But I will say this. If you want to be a serious Quranist then you need to have a throrough understanding of the OT and NT and Judaic and Christian traditions as well as pagan traditions. Thats if you want to be a serious Quranist, meaning actvist. Its not easy to do away with the OT. Many early Christians wanted to but couldn't.

To be fair though many OT prophets and stories are in the Quran so I understand why many Quranist would not bother. But to be an actvist you must know it well since many Quranic verses could only be understood if you have knowledge of the OT and the Talmud. Maybe not an expert knowledge but at least a thorough understanding.

Its something I am going to have to do but not now. Internet has good sources but its never the same as reading it yourself since you will get the feel and overall picture and not bits and pieces as you get in the internet.

bravo

belH

Selam

I have read some of it but not all. Currently I am reading 'The King James Version of the
Holy Bible'.

I have currently read this and it puzzles me

Genesis {179} And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my
covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their
generations. {1710} This my covenant, which ye shall
keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every
man child among you shall be circumcised. {1711} And ye
shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a
token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

Who is this command for? I ask because christians do not perform circumcision.

Peace,

This is my believe in regard of this issue
Circumcision is a very complected operation that involves many precise steps; and therefore, the Hebrew word "emul", which is translated to Circumcise, is not sufficient enough to refer to such a complicated operations. Unless, Prophet Abraham had performed it before, which I do not believe.
I believe that Circumcision is an old Egyptian Culture that the Jews inherited after they lived with them for more than 600 years.
http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Egypt_circ.jpg

Peace

Ahmad_Bilal

I'll be visiting this forum till the end of this year and not any more.

Why are you leaving the forum?

hope4

Peace,

This is my believe in regard of this issue
Circumcision is a very complected operation that involves many precise steps; and therefore, the Hebrew word "emul", which is translated to Circumcise, is not sufficient enough to refer to such a complicated operations. Unless, Prophet Abraham had performed it before, which I do not believe.
I believe that Circumcision is an old Egyptian Culture that the Jews inherited after they lived with them for more than 600 years.
http//upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8f/Egypt_circ.jpg

Peace

Selam BelH

I have heard in this forum that there is no evidence that the Jews lived with the Egyptians.

Peace

belH

Selam BelH

I have heard in this forum that there is no evidence that the Jews lived with the Egyptians.

Peace

Peace,
The quranic, NT, and OT facts shows otherwise; please read Yousuf Chapter and you will note that this was the beginning of their Migration to Egypt, and then read Moses stories and you will note when they migrated back to the Promised Land.
Thank you

nsws1988

Peace,
The quranic, NT, and OT facts shows otherwise; please read Yousuf Chapter and you will note that this was the beginning of their Migration to Egypt, and then read Moses stories and you will note when they migrated back to the Promised Land.
Thank you

Peace

I've read something that said that the word 'misr' actually means market or something like that and not the name of a country. Have you heard about this? If so, what are your views?

Bobo

bible? not really. unless you count the songs they sing in church. growing up we used to go to church once/twice a year for a couple of years, if i remember right we used to sing songs from the psalm. Dunno if that's the same thing - it was a long time ago.

unknownuser

Peace,

I've read something that said that the word 'misr' actually means market or something like that and not the name of a country. Have you heard about this? If so, what are your views?

See, Amarna letters/tablets found in modern name Akhetaten founded by pharaoh Akhenaten (1350s ? 1330s BCE)
Encyclopedia of el-Amarna Contains summaries of the letters.
http//www.specialtyinterests.net/eae.html

Rib Addi to a chief
EA#95 vd(53) mentions Aman and Baalat of Gubla; mentions houses, Amri, Adi-, king of Mt, Ami; says `Let g (sar) of Eypt (Miisri) sen hs deputy to me'

nsws1988

Peace,

See, Amarna letters/tablets found in modern name Akhetaten founded by pharaoh Akhenaten (1350s ? 1330s BCE)
Encyclopedia of el-Amarna Contains summaries of the letters.
http//www.specialtyinterests.net/eae.html

Rib Addi to a chief
EA#95 vd(53) mentions Aman and Baalat of Gubla; mentions houses, Amri, Adi-, king of Mt, Ami; says `Let g (sar) of Eypt (Miisri) sen hs deputy to me'

Interesting handshake

MUNZIR_ALI

As a God-alone Christian I feel a close relationship with Quran-alone, God-alone Muslims. A dialog between the two can only benefit both with a result that we can throw off our differences and pre-existing bias to bring us even closer. What is your real purpose on this forum?

group yes I agree. I find this forum to be rich in knowledge.

MUNZIR_ALI

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