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Angel or Humans?????

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    Hi All,

    In Surah 11 verse 69, messengers came to Ibrahim bearing a glad tidings. I just would like expert opinion that were they angels or humans?. If they were angels then can ordinary human see the angels?.

    Regards,
    NK

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      What makes you think that they were angels?
      and
      What is an angel?

      Salaam

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        Noon_waalqalami
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        Hi All,

        In Surah 11 verse 69, messengers came to Ibrahim bearing a glad tidings. I just would like expert opinion that were they angels or humans?. If they were angels then can ordinary human see the angels?.

        Peace NK, see context they may take human form although not like human given power to punish, etc...

        661 until when came one/anyone you the death take him messengers ours
        1021 indeed messengers ours writing/recording what thou planning

        1169 and surely came messengers ours Abrhym
        1177 and when came messengers ours Lot of

        2931 and when came messengers ours Abrhym with the tidings said they of indeed we destroying individuals this the town indeed family hers be they of wrongdoers
        2934 indeed we who descending on individuals this the town punishment from the heaven/sky in what be they of disobeying

        351 the praise to god originator the heavens and the land made l-malikati/the angels/controllers rusulan/messengers of ...

        https//s1.postimg.org/8ddq1h91pr/MA_VI_165_Quran_ch29v27-34.jpg

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          Salam Noon Walqalami,

          What do you mean by this "see context they may take human form although not like human given power to punish, etc". I read your comment and related verses but could not understand your point. Please clarify that they were humans or angels?. Traditional interpretation is that they were angels to destroy the nation of lot.

          Ibrahim and Lot both were prophets at that time then why did God not convey the message directly instead of sending angels (according to traditional interpretation) to convey message to Ibrahim and then travelled all the way to Lot.

          Peace
          Nk

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            You said "Ibrahim and Lot both were prophets at that time then why did God not convey the message directly instead of sending angels (according to traditional interpretation) to convey message to Ibrahim and then travelled all the way to Lot."

            What is the purpose of human beings if God has to take care of all our matters.. we're all being tested.

            Have a look at verse 2178-79, David and Solomon, yet God gave Solomon the correct understanding of the case. Perhaps you ought to take a lesson from the angels when they said to God - "Glory to You, we have no knowledge except that which You have taught us, You are the Knowledgeable, the Wise." 232

            ...Your Lord does as He pleases. 11107

            Peace.

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              Salam Noon Walqalami,

              What do you mean by this "see context they may take human form although not like human given power to punish, etc". I read your comment and related verses but could not understand your point. Please clarify that they were humans or angels?. Traditional interpretation is that they were angels to destroy the nation of lot.

              Peace, read "in context" 2931-34 and/or entire chapter likewise cross-reference with other chapters; they i.e. l-malaikati/the controllers (angels if you like) "appeared" in human form although are given power to punish, etc.

              Ibrahim and Lot both were prophets at that time then why did God not convey the message directly instead of sending angels (according to traditional interpretation) to convey message to Ibrahim and then travelled all the way to Lot.

              2218 ... the god doeth what yashu/willed

              likewise see below...

              162 descended l-malaikata/the controllers with the spirit from directive his upon whom yashu/willed
              2275 the god designated from/among l-malaikati/the controllers messengers of and from/among the humankind indeed the god hearer seer

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