Free Minds

san

... or weeds fill it up.

newlyweeds. how sweet.

Omeiza

As a child, a person was dependent & been indoctrinated. As adult, he is to be freed to see by himself & live his life.

san

good point on the child thing. i was not indoctrinated but whatever it was, i was led to an enslaving anger.

so i think a Mind freed to respond rightly.

Omeiza

Who frees the mind & what is the prime responsibility of a freed mind?

san

That, my friend, is for the freed mind to figure out, i think.

(i suppose i'm not the only one person with a mission deeply ingrained and interlinked in his memories)

Omeiza

Its a person (himself alone) that can declare his freedom from mental slavery & establish al-AQL as his permanent guide.

san

Its a person (himself alone) that can declare his freedom from mental slavery & establish al-AQL as his permanent guide.

i have to disagree with you on this. al-Aql or the mind is confusable. the understanding of "Allah", the details of all the relevant pieces needed for survival is beyond it (alone).

There is guidance in the flow of your blood and in the air you breathe. Spaces that no mind could dream of thinking about.

wait. that last line sounds cool. let me rephrase it in bold

There is guidance in the flow of your blood and in the air you breathe. Spaces that no mind could dream of thinking about.

Omeiza

As Pleasure/pain is the guide for the animal in us, so is the Rational sense the guide of the human side of us.

Bobo

Is it a Mind free of responsibilities or a Mind freed to become fully responsible?

A mind free from corruption.

Omeiza

A mind free of corruption
what do you mean by corruption? Is misinformation part of it?

san

As Pleasure/pain is the guide for the animal in us, so is the Rational sense the guide of the human side of us.

Pleasure/pain? you don't get it, do you

Omeiza

Peace san! An animal's mind is motivated by desire/urge. Without pleasure or pain, there is no urge/motivation.

san

Peace san! An animal's mind is motivated by desire/urge. Without pleasure or pain, there is no urge/motivation.

forget about it. we're talkin different animals then. (sorry for the pun). btw it's such a pleasure to not explain yourself.

Omeiza

As a human adult, there is the urge to live a rational life. A free mind is a mind that has decided for the truth alone.

Bobo

what do you mean by corruption? Is misinformation part of it?

Yeah basically misinformation. And I'm sure you agree that sects are corrupting Islam.

Omeiza

Peace Bobo! No mind is free of misinformation so 'free mind' can not mean a mind free of corruption except relatively.

Bobo

Peace Bobo! No mind is free of misinformation so 'free mind' can not mean a mind free of corruption except relatively.

As long as nobody puts false information in my mind, or convinces me of doing something wrong - my mind is free from corruption.

Omeiza

Well there are so many competitors for your mind feeding you with misinformation always many of which you correct later.

Bobo

Well there are so many competitors for your mind feeding you with misinformation always many of which you correct later.

What makes you think I listen to any of them? I got the Quran (and you guys interpreting it). That's it, I don't need to seek any more knowledge
All the scholars, preachers, ayatollahs - i consider them all crazy people. Would you listen to someone you consider crazed?