The roots of Quran Alone Movement
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I guess Rashad was the popular figure in contemporary society against hadith and maybe it's a covert promotion of the movement or what he was for. BTW the end referred to verses mentioned within the book translated by Rashad, Yusuf Ali and an Arabic transliteration. Contrast for the reader i guess.
Dear Sarah;
I think, directly or indirectly Rashad has the greatest influence on modern reform movement towards Quran alone. His book, Quran, Hadith and Islam is a landmark book and that alone is enough to put him on top of the list.
Peace,
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Salaam all,
I'm glad you all like the bookreview I made. Although it is expensive, it is an important book. I will ask prof.Musa if she allows important excerpts to be scanned and put on the DRC website.
As for the Qur'an alone movement, it depends from which continent you're coming, as for example Pakistan has and had scores of Qur'an reformers that inspire modern thinkers there without them ever knowing about RK.
You can download the bookreview in PDF here
http//www.deenresearchcenter.com/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=ckQPwrqmPEI%3d&tabid=75&mid=555&language=nl-NL
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Arnold, of course I know about other Quran alone or Mainly Quran movements in other countries independent of Rashad. But, Rashad's Quran-based argument was much stronger, clearer and consistent, and especially the fulfillment of prophecy in chapter 74 helped us to refute the main of objection/doubt directed to us by the followers of hadith and sunna.
A Quran Alone movement would be intellectually and philosophically defective without the support of the numerical structure of the Quran based on the number 19. Remember the ultimate objection of those who associate partners to God and His word "The same people that reported hadith also reported the Quran to us. How can we be sure that they did not also tamper with the Quran?" You may also include the agnostic and skeptic objection to the Quran's claim of divine source. Without code 19 none of these objections could be satisfactorily rebuffed. Those who have blinded themselves to the code by their prejudice and other problems, should think and ponder on my assertion before jumping into reacting to them.
As I had debated this with Ayman here in writing, and once behind the screen in a chat room, I would like to invite him to a face-to-face debate on this issue. If he makes up an excuse regarding the cost of attending to such a debate, I will pay it myself. If he also wish to hide his identity, I will provide him with a mask for free. (He could later deny his participation if he lost the argument or he could face himself, QaBuLi NaFSiHi, by opening his mask after witnessing the miracle). The reason for this face-to-face invitation is simple. I have learned that the immediacy of Socratic Dialogues is the best way to expose false ideas and inconsistencies. One example It took me about a month-long debate and pages and pages of writing with Lomax, another "runner like a zebra", to show his errors in counting the word DAY. If it was via a face-to-face debate it would not take more than two minutes.
No wonder the Turkish Sunni scholars and authors who comfortably writing refutations against my work were destroyed when they encountered the student of Socrates, face to face. After a few tries, they gave up accepting my challenge for live debate.
Peace,
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Peace All,
Edip
I think, directly or indirectly Rashad has the greatest influence on modern reform movement towards Quran alone. His book, Quran, Hadith and Islam is a landmark book and that alone is enough to put him on top of the list.
TBH I haven?t read much of his work. Yes he openly had a public influence however many people came to accept Quran alone without even knowing his existence or any other Quran alone movement.
BTW it's not necessarily true that in face to face you can convince someone quicker. it's possible though just read the ahl kitab's arguments with Shafi, he spoke much more articulately, he had sound conviction and a way of giving examples to deter a direction. it seemed like the ahl kitab didn't know how to hold an argument. they had good ideas (also some faulty) but they didn't know how to debate them well by the end they looked like fools.
Aisha's book didn't appeal to me about the movements but rather the issues of hadith, their acceptance and peoples rebellion. Little is talked about this (in regards to traditionalists) thanks Wakas for the 2 book references.
If anyone knows of other books in relation to hadith dispute and acceptance do share
peace
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peace Edip,
Are there any plans to publish a paper on 'code 19' in a reputable peer-reviewed scientific journal?
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