The Quranyon (qurani) : A Sign of Islamic Decline
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I didn't read even half of what that person wrote. Nonsense and bad faith and will. Nothing to do, except go on to something else.
Looks to me as an Islam hater of the common kind. Frustrated person who finds expediente to put his or her frustrations out of himself and what a better whipboy than islam and those who might attempt to show that islam is good.
Salaam
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This article is so predictable, I like how this guy is so sure that the Quran is FALSE. rotfl
Guys, we are all agnostics by default, when it comes to the unknown, it is FAITH. Even hardcore atheists have faith. angel
You can't reason with the unknown. Take it or leave it. voodoo
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I think it'll be kinda weird meeting an ex muslim.
Peace to all,
I love this, this is just further proof that the message of Quran alone Islam is starting to make an impact, let them cry and complain all they want, it will give us more publicity. The old structure built on false dogmas and empty rituals is crumbling, leaving the true essence and beauty of Islam to stand alone in its purity for the world to see it as it was truely meant to be.
Kurt
true it's a sign people are becoming more aware, i think they are more aware. i've heard sheikhs at the mosque say "there are people who believe such and such, quran without hadith.. what ignorance" there's even sunni audio lecturers against us. publicity is slowly coming out
peace
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Peace,
This is probably an ex-Sunni muslim or an Arab christian who doesn't like the possibility of a rational Islam that could answer his doubts, or create an acceptable version of Islam that will not attack his own beliefs.
So instead of a renewal or enlightenment of Islam, he sees us as a last desperate act to save the drowning Islam.
Selam Arnold Yasin
I would have to agree that your reflection on this issue is spot on. I feel people found it easy to spot mistakes in the traditional thinkings/cultures and hadiths of the muslims. Now they have come across a new threat, which takes its sources direct from the Great Reading and its not easy to argue with that.
Peace
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As many of you know, in the past few years I debated with rabid enemies of Islam, such as, Robert Spencer, Bill Warner, Ali Sina and many more. I was suprised to learn their insistence to force me to accept hadith and sunna. They even tried to use all the false arguments of Sunnis to lead me to the dirt, so that they could have a ceap victory against a muslim.
This is no different. Islam-watch, like its twin jihad-watch is another front against islam. It is one of the many sites run by the alliance of crusaders and zionists.
Peace,
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Wow what a load of crap..
is this guy muslim? how offensive, disregarding his claims of quraniyon but his claims on Quran/Mohammed..
let me highlight a few
I was reading in this book that the term sunna is now used interchangeably with the term hadith, however sunnah does not mean hadith. sunnah means something like path or way of life. anyway most probably know that, so basically not all hadith show a sunnah yet all hadith have their place. question is this guy sees Quran as nonsense and having contradictions.. and sunnah showing further absurdities? like what is this guy on? kufr? and he is having a go at quranists lol.
Anyone can distort meaning from Quran to hadith to the book you just read about whatever.. i haven't met a Quranists who thinks Quran shouldn't be read/interpreted in classical Arabic.
This will be the strongest argument traditionalists will use and will make a laughing mockery at us because they feel as hadith is preserved Quran was preserved in the same way.. so they can't make logic otherwise.
I think for a lot of people the idea of hadith being a source of history makes it hard for some to reject it, or wholeheartedly. however the so called science and methodology of hadith recognises.. well at least mentions anything contradictory or seemingly illogical or offensive in content should be turfed. so why is it we or rather traditionalists muslims relied so heavily and continue to on scholars of the past and their research, even though they claim their fallibility why is it muslims are so lazy to re-evaluate the works of their scholars? and practically divine their abilities?
Again i ask, is this guy muslim??
No he is a Christian missionary. He actaully sounds frustrated and for good reason. He knows without hadiths that attacks against Muhammad will be difficult. But his problem is that he lumps al Quranist in on epile. Its hard for people to understand the non orthodox nature of Quranist because many Christians are themelves sectarian and belong to denomination.
Plus people like that are usually har core Trinitarians, and we all know what the Quran says about that right?
So for him the Quran is extremely problematic. The question is where did he get the Trinity from? Not from the Bible. So he and Muslims are very similar just like Jews and the Talmud.
Talmud, Trinity and Sunnah. Different faces of the same head.
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Talmud, Trinity and Sunnah. Different faces of the same head.
Quoted for Truth.
Take heart and praise Allah, for there is good news hidden among the falsehood of this professed 'Middle Eastern ex-Muslim'. (He can be contacted at [email protected] as stated at the bottom of the essay.)
There are indications that many Muslims are deserting the mainstream Islam to the less known Islamic sect called the Quranyon.
All will hear of Al-Islam Surah 4153
Al-Islam will prevail against all religions Surah 933May Allah protect the believers.
Peace.
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For a second I thought the original article was Sunni. I was relieved that it was just anti-Islam. Means I don't have to read past the first fallacy.
I disagree with the idea that Islam will prevail, though. It's nonsense that Muslims are abandoning their religion, but the Quran itself predicts downfall of religion and corruption on earth... ending with the judgment.
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For a second I thought the original article was Sunni. I was relieved that it was just anti-Islam. Means I don't have to read past the first fallacy.
I disagree with the idea that Islam will prevail, though. It's nonsense that Muslims are abandoning their religion, but the Quran itself predicts downfall of religion and corruption on earth... ending with the judgment.
"He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all religions, though the polytheists may be averse." Surah 933
"He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the true religion that He may make it prevail over all the religions; and Allah is enough for a witness." Surah 4828
Allah revealed it. I believe it.
Read the Book, before it's too late and you are reading your book. Surah 1714, 1771 6919, 6925, 8110, 847, 8410
Peace.