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Right Hand Vs Left Hand

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    BornAgain
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    Salaam,

    I think it will be very nice if the debate can proceed without one ridiculing one's language skills, be it English or Arabic. It's unnecessary and will only make things worse.

    Sorry for being off topic.

    grabs a popcorn and continues watching the debate

    Salaam.

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      Leyna
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      Hi & salam

      My apologies, you are right that we should not ridicule each others' language skills.

      I usually don't comment on anyone's mistakes. As long as I can figure out what a person is trying to say, I see no problem with someone making grammar or spelling mistakes or whatever.

      But here the poster has on repeated occasions mocked or put others down for their supposed lack of understanding Arabic. He has also said that he believes English is lacking in expressions and has used this an argument for not explaining his own arguments properly.

      I find that a bit weird -- not to say arrogant -- because it is obvious that his knowledge of English is rather superficial and it is obvious that he is sometimes lacking the vocabulary to express himself properly. And this sort of attitude just rubs me the wrong way.

      http//www.clicksmilies.com/s1106/teufel/devil-smiley-029.gif

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        Thereformer1
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        Scientists say that 9 out of 10 gays are right handed? rotfl
        Btw., it's "children", not "childs".

        You see your aim is not understanding neither in your hand to understand anything, I've said scientist said that 9 out 10 born are adults gays . sorry if you'll consider me rude, but I have to say the truth that you're stupid because you didn't understand that a gay is an abnormal situation of nature because of a deviation of the environment of a child, the same thing for left handed one . it's a comparison between what you said and what I said and both of the comparison show that being gay is a habit and being a left handed is a habit, so don't believe what scientists said.

        one more thing about writing "childs" it's because I didn't pay attention, if you'll blame me about that, I can blame you about writing "BTW" .... o? that obviously shows that you are not deserving even knock your door.

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          Leyna
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          I've said scientist said that 9 out 10 born are adults gays .

          Erm ... no. The way you worded your post, you made it sound as if nine out of ten gays are right-handed. But m3alesh, I will refrain from making sarcastic remarks about your language skills, so let's just skip this.

          I have to say the truth that you're stupid because you didn't understand that a gay is an abnormal situation of nature because of a deviation of the environment of a child

          I have not said anything about gays here or in any other thread.

          being gay is a habit and being a left handed is a habit, so don't believe what scientists said.

          Being left-handed is not a habit. If it was only a habit, it would be possible to change it. But fact is that forcing someone to use their right hand when they are actually left-handed (or vice versa) can have very negative consequences for the individual.

          I can blame you about writing "BTW" .... o?

          "BTW" means "by the way". What does that have to do with you using a wrong plural form?

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            Thereformer1
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            Erm ... no. The way you worded your post, you made it sound as if nine out of ten gays are right-handed. But m3alesh, I will refrain from making sarcastic remarks about your language skills, so let's just skip this.
            I have not said anything about gays here or in any other thread.
            Being left-handed is not a habit. If it was only a habit, it would be possible to change it. But fact is that forcing someone to use their right hand when they are actually left-handed (or vice versa) can have very negative consequences for the individual.
            "BTW" means "by the way". What does that have to do with you using a wrong plural form?

            My discussion with you is over . try to look for a kid to play with him.

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              Leyna
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              My discussion with you is over .

              Alhamdullilah! yay

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                Thereformer1
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                Alhamdullilah! yay

                we wrote " " Alhamdulilah is wrong ...

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                  Leyna
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                  Alhamdulilah is wrong ...

                  So how would you write it in Latin letters, considering the fact that there is no equivalent for the Arabic letter ""?

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                    Thereformer1
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                    So how would you write it in Latin letters, considering the fact that there is no equivalent for the Arabic letter ""?

                    That's not my problem, it's yours .

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                      Leyna
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                      That's not my problem, it's yours .

                      sigh

                      I don't have any problem at all. It was you who said that the way I spelled the word was wrong; I just wanted to know how you would spell it.

                      If you don't have an answer to this question, I assume my spelling was correct. nope

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                        Thereformer1
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                        sigh
                        I don't have any problem at all. It was you who said that the way I spelled the word was wrong; I just wanted to know how you would spell it.
                        If you don't have an answer to this question, I assume my spelling was correct. nope

                        You spell it wrong because we say " " if you want to write it using latin letters, you'll write it like that "Al-Hamdo Lilah" not "alhamdolilah" as you did. the words are not atached to each others.

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                          Leyna
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                          You spell it wrong because we say " " if you want to write it using latin letters, you'll write it like that "Al-Hamdo Lilah" not "alhamdolilah" as you did.

                          I see your point, but imho you can spell it both ways.

                          "Alhamdullilah" seems to be the most common and widely used spelling though.

                          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhamdulillah

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                            Thereformer1
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                            I see your point, but imho you can spell it both ways.

                            "Alhamdullilah" seems to be the most common and widely used spelling though.

                            http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alhamdulillah

                            it is wrong, I don't care if it is widely used spelling or not, the important is that it is wrong spelling. Because we didn't write the word in arabic like that (it is composed from two separated parts "Al-Hamdo" and "Allah" ).

                            so take it or leave it , it's your choice.

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                              SarahY
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                              thereformer1,

                              there is no indication in the quran that one must attain a hand preference in writing/eating/etc. if you believe quran says so then yes i'm unaware and lack quranic knowledge.

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                                Thereformer1
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                                thereformer1,
                                there is no indication in the quran that one must attain a hand preference in writing/eating/etc. if you believe quran says so then yes i'm unaware and lack quranic knowledge.

                                I think God should show everything even how you'll walk, he gave you mind to interpret and choose (when God said in a verse that the left position is for the infidels and the non-believers , so be clever and interpret that the left position is not a good thing because it's a position of non-believers ). and know also that hell is in the left position too.

                                so being not mentioned in Qur'an doesn't mean that we can't banned it, and that's why Sunnah came to banned using the left hand for the same reason and even worst the sunnah told us that the deamons eat by their left hand, so being like them will not make you different from them.

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                                  aynur
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                                  That's not my problem, it's yours .

                                  nope

                                  That's not very nice. It seems quite rude to say that....

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                                    I think God should show everything even how you'll walk, he gave you mind to interpret and choose (when God said in a verse that the left position is for the infidels and the non-believers , so be clever and interpret that the left position is not a good thing because it's a position of non-believers ). and know also that hell is in the left position too.

                                    so being not mentioned in Qur'an doesn't mean that we can't banned it, and that's why Sunnah came to banned using the left hand for the same reason and even worst the sunnah told us that the deamons eat by their left hand, so being like them will not make you different from them.

                                    But what about people who are born left-handed? It's like telling a right-handed person to use their left hand to write, use a scissors, etc.
                                    ???

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                                      Thereformer1
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                                      nope
                                      That's not very nice. It seems quite rude to say that....

                                      why it is not very nice ? do you want from me to flatter her ? .

                                      it seems quite rude to say that because it's your own opinion.

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                                        Thereformer1
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                                        But what about people who are born left-handed? It's like telling a right-handed person to use their left hand to write, use a scissors, etc.
                                        ???

                                        As I said before, there is no one born left-handed. it's a habit .

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                                          Andya_Primanda
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                                          As I said before, there is no one born left-handed. it's a habit .

                                          Sorry, but this is a baseless claim.

                                          Left-handedness/right-handedness is determined in fetuses.

                                          http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-handedness

                                          • Hand orientation is developed in fetuses, most commonly determined by observing which hand is predominantly held close to the mouth.
                                          • In 2007, researchers discovered LRRTM1, the first gene linked to increased odds of being left-handed.
                                          • Long-term impairment of the right hand People with long-term impairment of the right hand are more likely to become left-handed, even after their right hand heals. Such long-term impairment is defined as eight months or more.
                                          • Testosterone Exposure to higher rates of testosterone before birth can lead to a left-handed child. This is the Geschwind theory, named after the neurologist who proposed it, Norman Geschwind. It suggests that variations in levels of testosterone during pregnancy shape the development of the fetal brain. Testosterone suppresses the growth of the left cerebral hemisphere and so more neurons migrate to the right hemisphere. The highly developed right hemisphere is now better suited to function as the center of language and handedness. The fetus is more likely to become left-handed, since the right hemisphere controls the left half of the body. The theory goes on to tie the exposure to higher levels of testosterone and the resultant right-hemisphere dominance to auto-immune disorders, learning disorders, dyslexia, and stuttering, as well as increased spatial ability.

                                          The article has references from scientific research, so it can be safely assumed that right/left-handedness is determined from birth, and your opinion "there is no one born left-handed" lacks evidence.

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