research thread about the root ج ن ن and concepts and terms related with root.
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hey guys hope u doing good, i collected data for the thread to start research and give opportunities for new members to learn and develop their own insight in the subject. i select three interpretation along with original arabic without vocal marks.
interpretation selected on the merits of their method of translating.for giving new views and new angles.first we have to see all possible meanings of this root.
veiled/concealed/covered/hid/protected (e.g. cloth, armour, grave, shield), invisible, become dark/posessed, darkness of night, bereft of reason, mad/insane/unsound in mind/intellect, confusedness.
Become thick/full-grown/blossom, herbage, garden.
Spiritual beings that conceal themselves from the senses (including angels), become weak and abject, greater part of mankind, devil/demon, people who are peerless having no match or equal, a being who is highly potent, sometimes refers to Kings because they are concealed from the common folk.
Jinn (this term only used once for non-being)
676The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
676 When the night covered him, he saw a planet, and he said "This is my Lord." But when it disappeared he said "I do not like those who disappear."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
676 Then, when the night overshadowed him with its darkness, he beheld a star;., he exclaimed, "This is my Sustainer!" -but when it went down, he said, "I love not the things that go down."Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
676 (Some of his people were idolaters and others were nature-worshipers.) One night when it grew dark upon him he saw a planet (Venus). He said, ?This is my Lord.? But when it set, he said, ?I do not love things that fade away.?Ajinata this term used once for human when he was simply hidden or invisible etc.
5332
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5332 They avoid major sins and immorality, except for minor offences. Your Lord is with vast forgiveness. He has been fully aware of you since He initiated you from the earth, and while you were embryos in the wombs of your mothers. Therefore, do not ascribe purity to yourselves; He is fully aware of the righteous.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5332 As for those who avoid the grave sins and shameful deeds - even though they may some?times stumble behold, thy Sustainer is abounding in forgiveness. He is fully aware of you when He brings you into being out of dust, and when you are still hidden in your mothers' wombs do not, then, consider your-selves pure - He knows best as to who is conscious of Him.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5332 Those who abstain from the greater transgressions that deplete the communal energy, and from shameful deeds and stinginess, even though they may sometimes waver, your Lord is of limitless forgiveness. He knows you best since He brings you into being from the earth, and when you were still hidden in the bellies of your mothers. Therefore, claim not piety for yourselves. He knows best as to who is righteous.Al-Jinn this term having Al in it make it broader in meanings and when we see verses we can guess whats in there like the following verse.
6100
in this verse its not only reffered to the jaan and insan but also other beings like concepts of aliens, angels, demons, giants, dieties of worship with divine powers etc..
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
6100 And they set up partners with God from among the Jinn, while He had created them. And they invented for Him sons and daughters without them having any knowledge! Be He glorified and exalted above what they describe.
Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)6100 And yet, some have come to attribute to all manner of invisible beings a place side by side with God - although it is He who has created them ; and in their ignorance they have invented for Him sons and daughters!Limitless is He is His glory, and sublimely exalted above anything that men may devise by way of definition
Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)6100 Yet, there are those who believe in the existence of invisible beings with Divine powers although He is the One Who created them. They even assign to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He Glorified! He is Exalted far above all that they attribute to Him.
6112
this verse include shyatin in it means shayatin from all possible beings..
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
6112 And as such, We have permitted the enemies of every prophet mankind and Jinn devils to inspire each other with fancy words in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. You shall disregard them and their fabrications.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
6112 AND THUS it is that against every prophet We have set up as enemies the evil forces from among humans as well as from among invisible beings that whisper unto one another glittering half-truths meant to delude the mind But they could not do this unless thy Sustainer had so willed stand, therefore, aloof from them and from all their false imagery!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
6112 Remember, We have appointed to every Prophet enemies. The rebellious among the urban and the rural populations rose in opposition (since the Message struck at their personal interests.) They plotted and inspired each other with fancy words. If your Lord willed, they would not do that. Disregard them and whatever they fabricate.6128
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
6128 And the Day We gather them all "O assembly of Jinn, you have managed to take many from mankind." Their supporters from mankind said "Our Lord, we have indeed enjoyed one another, and we have reached our destiny to which You delayed us." He said "The Fire is your dwelling, abiding therein, except as your Lord wishes." Your Lord is Wise, Knowledgeable.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
6128 AND ON THE DAY when He shall gather them together, "O you who have lived in close communion with invisible beings! A great many human beings have you ensnared! And those of the humans who were close to them will say "O our Sustainer! We did enjoy one another's fellowship ; but (now that] we have reached the end of our term-the term which Thou hast laid down for us - (we see the error of our ways]!" He will say "The fire shall be your abode, therein to abide-unless God wills it otherwise."Verily, thy Sustainer is wise, all-knowing.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
6128 The day will come when He gathers all of them and says, ?O You nomads! You have seduced many of the urban.? Their urbanite friends will say, ?Our Lord! We enjoyed each other?s company (and both used each other opportunistically as happens in a chaotic society) until we wasted a life span You had given us." He will say, ?Fire is your home. Abide therein forever according to God's Design." (O Messenger) your Lord is Wise, Knower.6130
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
6130 "O assembly of Jinn and mankind, did not messengers come to you from among you and tell to you My revelations, and warn you of the meeting of this Day?" They said "Yes, we bear witness upon ourselves;" and the worldly life deceived them, and they bore witness upon themselves that they were rejecters.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
6130 "O you who have lived in close communion with invisible beings and humans! Have there not come unto you apostles from among yourselves, who conveyed unto you My messages and warned you of the coming of this your Day ?" They will answer "We do bear witness against ourselves!"-for the life of this world had beguiled them and so they will bear witness against themselves that they had been denying the truth.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
6130 O You, assembly of the nomads and the urbanites! Did not Messengers come to you from among yourselves, conveyed to you My messages and warned you of the meeting of this your Day? They will say, "We testify against ourselves.? Pursuit of only the worldly life preoccupied their hearts and minds. They will bear witness against themselves that they disregarded the truth.738
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
738 He said "Enter with the multitude of nations before you from mankind and Jinn to the Fire!" Every time a nation entered, it cursed its sister nation, until they are all gathered inside it; then the last of them says to the first "Our Lord, these are the ones who have misguided us, so give them double the retribution of the Fire!" He replied "Each will receive double, but you do not know."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
738 will say "Join those hosts of invisible beings and humans who have gone before you into the fire!" every time a host enters , it will curse its fellow-host -so much so that, when they all shall have passed into it, one after another, the last of them will speak of the first of them"O our Sustainer! It is they who have led us astray give, them, therefore, double suffering through fire!" He, will reply "Every one of you deserves double suffering -but you know it not."Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
738 God will command them to join the previous uncivilized and civilized communities into the fire. Every later group will blame the earlier one, "Our Lord! These are the ones who misled us; double their punishment.? He will say, ?Doubled for all? but this you do not know.7179
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
7179 And We have given to Hell many of the Jinn and mankind; they had hearts with which they did not understand, and they had eyes with which they did not see, and they had ears with which they did not hear. They are like livestock; no, they are even more astray. These are the unaware ones.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
7179 And most certainly have We destined for hell many of the invisible beings and men who have hearts with which they fail to grasp the truth, and eyes with which they fail to see, and ears with which they fail to hear. They are like cattle -nay, they are even less conscious of the right way it is they, they who are the heedless!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
7179 We have committed to Hell numerous people, rural and urban (they are living a life of hell). They have hearts that they use not to understand. They have eyes with which they see not, and they have ears with which they hear not. They are like cattle. Nay, they are further astray. They, they are the ones who let the life pass by unaware of its potentials.1788
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
1788 Say "If all mankind and the Jinn were to gather to bring a Qur'an like this, they could not come with its like, even if they were helping one another."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
1788 Say "If all mankind and all invisible beings would come together with a view to producing the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce its like even though they were to exert all their strength in aiding one another!"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1788 Say, ?If all mankind, in towns and villages, get together to produce the like of this Qur?an, they will not be able to produce the like of it, no matter how much help they give one another."1850
in this verse ibless is appeared as ALJINN.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
1850 And We said to the angels "Yield to Adam." So they all yielded except for Satan. He was of the Jinn, he disobeyed the order of his Lord. Will you take him and his progeny as allies besides Me, while they are your enemy? Miserable for the
transgressors is the substitute!Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
1850 AND when We told the angels, "Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they all prostrated themselves, save Iblis he was one of those invisible beings, but then he turned away from his Sustainer's command. Will you, then, take him and his cohorts for (your], masters instead of Me, although they are your foe? How vile an exchange on the evildoers'Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1850 Recall when We said to the angels, ?Humble yourselves to Adam!? They all humbled themselves except Iblees. He was of the hidden selfish desires that drifted away from his Lord's command. Will you still befriend him and his comrades rather than Me? And they are enemies to you! Miserable is the exchange the wrongdoers make.2717
solomon gather both aljin and alins as well as alteer(birds) possibly.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2717 And the soldiers of Solomon were gathered, comprising of mankind and Jinn and birds, for they were to be spread out.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2717 And there were assembled before Solomon his hosts of invisible beings, and of men, and of birds; and then they were led forth in orderly ranks,Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2717 Solomon?s army included warrior tribes of the woods and the mountains, dwellers of townships, and great riders of the tribe of Taer. They were well disciplined, and dedicated to any appointed mission.2739
in this verse aljinn is showing his power and trust regarding performing a task.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2739 A powerful being from among the Jinn said "I will bring it to you before you rise from your station. For I am strong and trustworthy."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2739 Said a bold one of the invisible beings ?I shall bring it to thee ere thou rise from thy council-seat - for, behold, I am powerful enough to do it, worthy of trust!"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2739 One of the strong commanders of the mountain division said, "My troops can accomplish this mission with lightning speed, before you rise up to think of and assign anyone else. I am competent and trustworthy for this job."3412
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
3412 And for Solomon the wind was given, traveling one month coming and one month going, and We caused a spring of tar to flow for him. And from among the Jinn are those that worked for him with the permission of his Lord; and any one of them who turns from Our commands, We shall cause him to taste the retribution of the Fire.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
3412 AND UNTO Solomon the wind its morning course a month's journey, and its evening course, a month's journey. And We caused a fountain of molten copper to flow at his behest; and among the invisible beings there were some that had to labour for him by his Sustainer's leave and whichever of them deviated from Our command, him would We let taste suffering through a blazing flame -Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
3412 And to Solomon, We committed the wind at his disposal. (He mastered the science of sailing and his ships sailed much faster than the others.) They sailed one month going and one month coming back. And We gave him abundance in mining of copper and minerals and subdued for him the wild tribes who worked for him by his Lord?s leave. (Solomon established the Divine System such that) whoever turned aside from Our command, We made him taste a severe punishment.3414
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
3414 Then, when We decreed death for him, nothing informed them of his death until a worm kept eating from his staff, so when he fell down, the Jinn realized that if they had known the unseen, they would not have remained in the humiliating retribution.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
3414 Yet when We decreed that he should die, nothing showed them that he was dead except an earthworm that gnawed away his staff. And when he fell to the ground, those invisible beings saw clearly that, had they but understood the reality which was be?yond the reach of their perception, they would not have continued in the shameful sufferingShabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
3414 When We decreed death for him, nothing showed his death to the wild tribes until a creature of the earth ate away the strength he had mustered. (The incompetent successor Rehoboam destroyed the kingdom.) When the power base fell, the wild tribes rebelled regretting that they should have done it sooner only if they knew that the new king was unjust and weak.3441
thinking Aljinn as some divine powers in this verse.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
3441 They will say "Be You glorified. You are our Lord, not them. No, most of them were serving the Jinn; most were believers to them."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
3441 They will answer ?Limitless art Thou in Thy glory! Thou art close unto us, not they! Nay, they were but worshipping forces concealed from their senses; most of them believed in them."Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
3441 They will answer, ?Glory is Yours! You are our Master, not they. Nay, they used to worship their evil desires. Most of them were believers in them.?4125
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
4125 And We assigned to them associates who adorned their present and past actions. Thus, the retribution has been deserved by them the same as previous nations of Jinn and mankind; all of them were losers.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
4125 for We assigned to them other selves,and these made appear goodly to them whatever lay open before them and whatever was beyond their ken.And so, the sentence will have fallen due upon them together with the com?munities of invisible beings and humans that passed away before their time verily, they will indeed be lost!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4125 (In the life of the world) We assigned them comrades who made pleasing to them their present and past actions. And so, the Word has come to pass for them as it did concerning the communities that lived before them, among the rural and the urban. They all are losers.4129
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
4129 And those who have rejected will say "Our Lord, show us those who have misled us from among the Jinn and mankind so we can trample them under our feet, so that they would be the lowest."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
4129 And they who were bent on denying the truth will exclaim ?O our Sustainer! Show us those of the invisible beings and humans that have led us astray we shall trample them underfoot, so that they shall be the lowest of all!"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4129 And the deniers will say, "Our Lord! Show us those, among the nomads and the urban, who misled us. We will trample them under our feet so that they become utterly disgraced."4618
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
4618 These are the ones against whom the retribution has been deserved in nations who had come before them of mankind and Jinn; they are the losers.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
4618 It is these upon whom the sentence will fall due, together with the communities of invisible beings and humans that have passed away before their time. Verily, they will be lostShabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4618 Such are the ones against whom the Word came to pass among the previous generations of the rural and the urban. They will surely be lost!4629
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
4629 And We directed to you a company of Jinn, in order to let them listen to the Qur'an. So when they arrived there, they said "Pay attention." Then, when it was finished, they returned to their people, to warn them.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
4629 AND LO! We caused a group of unseen beings to incline towards thee, so that they might give ear to the Qur'an; and so, as soon as they became aware of it, they said , ?Listen in silence!" And when was ended, they returned to their people as warners.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4629 (O Messenger) We turned toward you a company of the nomads so that they may listen to the Qur?an. And as soon as they were in its presence, they said, ?Listen in silence!? And when it was over, they hurried to their people as warners.5156
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5156 I did not create the Jinn and mankind except to serve Me.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5156 And I have not created the invisible beings and men to any end other than that they may worship Me.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5156 And I have not created the ?jinn? and the ?ins? but that they obey (serve) Me alone.5533
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5533 O assembly of Jinn and mankind, if you can penetrate the boundaries of the heavens and the earth, then go ahead and penetrate. You will not penetrate without might.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5533 O you who live in close communion with invisible beings and humans! If you can pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, pass beyond them!16 you cannot pass beyond them, save by a sanction !Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5533 O Communities of the nomads and the urban! If you can break through the fences of the heavens and earth, then, break through. Never can you break through without an authority (which you won?t have). Can you bring any evidence?721
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
721 Say "It has been inspired to me that a group of Jinn were listening." They said "We have heard a magnificent revelation!"Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
721 SAY "It has been revealed to me that some of the unseen beings gave ear ,and thereupon said "'Verily, we have heard a wondrous discourse,Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
721 Say (O Prophet) It has been revealed to me that a tribe of nomads listened, and then they said, ?We have heard a marvelous recital.725
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
725 "And we had thought that neither mankind nor the Jinn would ever utter a lie against God."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
725 and that we thought that neither man nor the invisible forces would ever tell a lie about God.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
725 We used to think that people, whether civilized or uncivilized, would never utter a lie about God.726
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
726 "And there were men from among mankind who used to seek help from the men among the Jinn, but they only helped increase them in sin."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
726 Yet that certain kinds of humans would seek refuge with certain kinds of invisible forces but these only increased their confusion ?Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
726 Some people of towns used to seek shelter with some of the nomads and increased them in confusion.Jaan and aljaan &
al jaan is broader than jaan, jaan reffered to something what people have in their mind about another beings and we have little data about aljaan and jaan is only in one refference with the staf of moses, it appears to moses at it is Jaan, and when author used alJAAN then its includes all those who were somehow created from NAAR. same like all nations of alinsaan including all homosaphien types what created from clay/dust/water. etc..
in this verse its appears Aljaan were there before human race.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
1527 And the Jinn, We created him before that from the fire of the fierce hot winds.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
1527 whereas the invisible beings We had created, before that, out of the fire of scorching winds.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1527 Before humanity became civilized, We had placed in them a fiery disposition.The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2710 "And cast down your staff." So when he saw it vibrate as if it were a Jinn, (jaan) he ran away and would not turn back. "O Moses, do not fear, for My messengers shall have no fear from Me."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2710 ?Now throw down thy staff!" But when he saw it move rapidly, as if it were a serpent,(jaan) he drew back , and did not return. O Moses! Fear not - for, behold, no fear need the message-bearers have in My Presence,Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2710 "Now rehearse the truth." When Moses did that, he felt that he had the vibrant Force of truth in hand. Yet he was awe-struck by the uphill task before him, like grabbing a huge python.(jaan) God said, "O Moses! Do not fear! The Messengers do not fear in My Presence."you see all three interpretors select different choice of words for JAAN.
2831
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2831 "And cast down your staff." So when he saw it vibrate as if it were a Jinn, he turned around to flee and would not return. "O Moses, come forward and do not be afraid. You are of those who are safe."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2831 And ?Throw down thy staff!" But as soon as saw it move rapidly, as if it were a snake, he drew back , and did not return. ?O Moses! Draw near, and have no fear - for, behold, thou art of those who are secure !Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2831 "Rehearse your supporting power of truth.? Moses felt as if the mission assigned to him was like holding a huge python, and he retreated hesitating. (God said), "O Moses! Draw near (to conviction), and fear not, you are secure from harm."5515
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5515 And the Jinn He created from a smokeless fire.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5515 whereas the invisible beings He has created out of a confusing flame of fire.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5515 And the Jinns He has created out of smokeless fire (with an unstable fiery disposition).5539
only jaan and ins are in TEST/TASK ground.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5539 On that Day, no man or Jinn will be asked of his sins.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5539 For on that Day neither man nor invisible being will be asked about his sins.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5539 In that Era neither the civilized nor the uncivilized will be asked why they trailed behind.5556
very though provoking verse is this. although this creature could be any gender male or female "hoor" traditionaly its accepted as feminine gender anyway.
this verse is not reffering (to al-jinn) only to jaan and ins not even to al-jann and al-ins..
the one who assemble/design/create/placed those "hoors" was some being too ?
it appears two beings are there who were approaching a same thing/path from al-jinn and al-ins.so those hoors is for only them (2)beings as a result of their reward.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5556 In them are those with a modest gaze, untouched before by any man or Jinn.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5556 In these will be mates of modest gaze, whom neither man nor invisible being will have touched ere then.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5556 Therein women have a modest gaze, never touched by human vices or evil prompting.5574
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5574 No man has ever touched them, nor Jinn.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5574 whom neither man nor invisible being will haveShabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5574 Companions never touched by human vices or evil prompting.MAJNU while discussing all beings with that root there is something what should not missed is this word majnu..
there is things and concept related with this word the famous character of arab romantic story "Laila MAJNU" may give hint to that word, majnu is someone who is insane or weird or someone possessed by evil spirits in negative and positive ways.. lets see if we find anything ... he was actually crazy the way how he loved laila lol.
156
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
156 And they said "O you upon whom the Reminder has been sent down, you are crazy."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
156 And yet, they say "O thou unto whom this reminder has been bestowed from on high verily, thou art mad!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
156 And yet, those who deny the truth, say, ?O You, to whom this Reminder has been revealed, certainly you are mad!?2627
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2627 He said "This messenger of yours who has been sent to you is crazy!"Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2627 exclaimed ?Behold, your 'apostle' who has been sent unto you is mad indeed!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2627 Pharaoh said, "Your Messenger who has been sent to you is a crazy man."3736
the one who influence people by poetry.. (hidden charm) what human nature attracts towards at those times.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
3736 And they would say "Shall we leave our gods because of a crazy poet?"Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
3736 and would say, ?Shall we, then, give up our deities at the bidding of a mad poet?"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
3736 And they used to say, ?Shall we give up our gods for a mad poet??4414
again in this verse a clear defeat by people who are asking things, they acknowledge the charming qualities and legends are crazy most of the times their qualities are impressive in arts.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
4414 But then, they turned away from him and said "Clearly educated, but crazy!"Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
4414 whereupon they turned their backs on him and said, ?Taught is he, a madman"?Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
4414 Whereupon they had turned away from him, and said, ?Taught and tutored he is, a madman.?5139
in this verse more qualities of majnu are appearing as magicians, trickers, master of different arts etc.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5139 But he and his camp turned away, and said "A magician, or crazy."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5139 and he turned away in his power and said, ?A sorcerer , or a madman!" ?Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5139 But he turned away proud of his might and said, ?A wizard or a madman!?5152
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5152 Likewise, when a messenger went to those before them, they said "A magician, or crazy."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5152 thus it is never yet came any apostle to those who lived before their time but they said, ?A spel1binder36Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5152 But, thus it is. No Messenger came to those before their time, but they said, ?A wizard or a madman!?5229
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5229 Therefore, you shall remind. For by the grace of your Lord, you are neither a soothsayer, nor crazy.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5229 EXHORT, then, for, by thy Sustainer's grace, thou art neither a soothsayer nor a madman.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5229 So, (O Messenger) keep reminding, for, by the grace of your Lord, you are neither a soothsayer nor a madman.549
noah also experienced same things.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
549 The people of Noah disbelieved before them. They disbelieved Our servant and said "He is crazy!" And he was oppressed.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
549 BEFORE those did Noah's people call it a lie; and they gave the lie to Our servant and said, ?Mad is he!" - and he was repulsed.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
549 Long before them, Noah?s people had denied the message, rejected Our servant and said, ?Madman?, and he was rebuked.682
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
682 You are not, by the blessing of your Lord, crazy.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
682 Thou art not, by thy Sustainer's grace, a madman!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
682 You (O Messenger), by the grace of your Lord, are not a madman.8122
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
8122 And your friend is not crazy.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
8122 For, this fellow-man of yours is not a madmanShabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
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i seperate verses of and
37158
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The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
37158 And they invented a kinship between Him and the Jinn. But the Jinn know that they will be gathered.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
37158 And some people have invented a kinship between Him and all manner of invisible forces although these invisible forces know well that, verily, they shall indeed be arraigned that word of Mine has come true ?Most certainly will I fill hell with invisible beings as well as with humans, all together!"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
3213 Had We so willed, We could have imposed Our guidance upon every human being (driven by instincts like other creatures). But the Word from Me will come true that I will fill Hell with people, rural and urban all together.11119
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
11119 Except whom your Lord has mercy upon; and for that He has created them. And the word of your Lord came true "I will fill Hell with the Jinn and the people together!"Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
11119 save those upon whom thy Sustainer has bestowed His grace. And to this end has He created them that word of thy Sustainer shall be fulfilled "Most certainly will I fill hell with invisible beings as well as with humans, all together!"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
11119 Except those on whom your Lord will bestow His grace (for working toward the noble objective of unity). And for this He created them. Those who defy (this command) will fulfill the Word of your Lord, ?Surely, I shall fill Hell with the nomad and urban mankind all together.?1146
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
1146 "From the Jinn and the people."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
1146 "from all invisible forces as well as men,"Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
1146 (And) from the hidden psyche that rationalizes the evil, as well as the temptations that come from people."7184
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
7184 Do they not reflect? Their companion has no madness; but he is a clear warner.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
7184 Has it, then, never occurred to them that there is no madness whatever in their fellowman? He is only a plain warner.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
7184 Has it never occurred to them that there is no madness whatsoever in their fellow-man? He is only a plain warner.2325
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2325 "Heis no more than a man who has madness in him. So keep watch on him for a while."Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2325 He is nothing but a madman so bear with him for a while."Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2325 He is nothing but a madman, so watch him for a while."2370
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
2370 Or do they say that there is a madness in him? No, he has come to them with the truth, but most of them are hateful of the truth.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
2370 Or do they say. ?There is madness in him"? Nay, he has brought them the truth - and the truth do most of them detest!Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
2370 Or do they say, ?There is madness in him?? Nay, he brings them the truth, and most of them detest the truth.
348
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
348 "Has he invented a lie against God, or is there a madness in him?" Indeed, those who do not believe in the Hereafter will be in a retribution and are far straying.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
348 Does he attribute his own lying inventions to God - or is he a madman?" Nay, but they who will not believe in the life to come are in suffering and in a profound aberration.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
348 ?Has he invented a lie against God or is he a madman?" Nay, but those who disbelieve in the life to come are wandering in the wilderness of thought and in a profound error.3446
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
3446 Say "I advise you to do one thing that you stand to God, in twos and individually, then reflect." There is no madness in your friend, he is only a warner to you in the face of a severe retribution.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
3446 Say ?I counsel you one thing only Be standing before God, whether you are in the company of others or alone; and then bethink yourselves there is no madness in your fellow-man he is only a warner to you of suffering severe to come."Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
3446 Say, "I ask you to do just one thing For the sake of God! Stand up in pairs and singly, and then think. There is no madness in your companion. He is only a warner to you in the face of a terrible doom."considering all this it appears different scholars and also grammer of quran used different beings related with ROOT we are discussing example shabbir ahmed used both invisible beings and humans urban and rural in his interpretation according to the context of the verses regarding the subject.
in the end there is one more thing having same root . its janna and aljanna one for gardens of this life one for gardens of life hereafter... this root is covering lot of things.
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Good thread.... but you have not explained your views but brought maximum of relevant words and various translations... made the job easy for those who search in corpus quran etc... is that a research really or presented all the root words? hypno
Now can anyone find the answer for the question .. Did God create only Human and Jinn for His tests and will be judged to place in paradise and Hell or are there any other creature which belongs to the test... Is the thread sufficient enough to come to conclusion whether quran is for human only or ......?
Anyhow you have worked hard to present this with utmost interest..definitely someone will benefit when the argument goes forward...
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Good thread.... but you have not explained your views but brought maximum of relevant words and various translations... made the job easy for those who search in corpus quran etc... is that a research really or presented all the root words? hypno
peace jkhan,
i explained the difference between terms and their usage where its relevant i want readers do their maximum effort to find the meanings. thtas why i select three translations, now its easy for us to give answers of questions in light of quranic cross check of this root. while reading and thinking about all of the material i have to read all other related terms like ?insan? and refferences of different insans are there too anyway coming back to your question let me see how this data will help us.
next thread will b on "insan" becoz i feel to gather data for that term too.
Now can anyone find the answer for the question .. Did God create only Human and Jinn for His tests and will be judged to place in paradise and Hell or are there any other creature which belongs to the test... Is the thread sufficient enough to come to conclusion whether quran is for human only or ......?
your questions
RED next time used arabic words please thats why i made this thread not to get confused with jaan and jinn. insan and alinsan etc.if you look into that part of my thread that answer could b linked there..
5539
only jaan and ins are in TEST/TASK ground.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5539 On that Day, no man or Jinn will be asked of his sins.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5539 For on that Day neither man nor invisible being will be asked about his sins.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5539 In that Era neither the civilized nor the uncivilized will be asked why they trailed behind.5556
very though provoking verse is this. although this creature could be any gender male or female "hoor" traditionaly its accepted as feminine gender anyway.
this verse is not reffering (to al-jinn) only to jaan and ins not even to al-jann and al-ins..
the one who assemble/design/create/placed those "hoors" was some being too ?
it appears two beings are there who were approaching a same thing/path from al-jinn and al-ins.so those hoors is for only them (2)beings as a result of their reward.
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5556 In them are those with a modest gaze, untouched before by any man or Jinn.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5556 In these will be mates of modest gaze, whom neither man nor invisible being will have touched ere then.Shabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5556 Therein women have a modest gaze, never touched by human vices or evil prompting.5574
The Monotheist Group (The Quran A Monotheist Translation)
5574 No man has ever touched them, nor Jinn.Muhammad Asad (The Message Of Quran)
5574 whom neither man nor invisible being will haveShabbir Ahmed (Quran As It Explains Itself)
5574 Companions never touched by human vices or evil prompting.GREEN thread will gona tell what we can get from it ? as far now two beings from Al-INs and al-jinn are giving their tests/task/role.
Anyhow you have worked hard to present this with utmost interest..definitely someone will benefit when the argument goes forward...
may God guide us..whoever want to get benefit just need to ask in this thread either the data is covering their question or not.
i will try my best to share my experience.
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- Is INS and INSAN only used for human beings? The answer will be categorically YES.
- Is any other words also used for human beings or category of human beings? The answer will be YES. Adam and JIN are also used for human beings.
- Is JAAN only used for creature made of fire? The answer will be YES.
- Is JAAN also used for any other creature beside invisible beings in the book? The answer will be YES, for snake.
- Is snake made of fire? Answer is NO. How do we know verse is talking about invisible beings or Snake? Its context.
- Is JIN used for invisible beings made of fire in the book? ?NO?
- What is word JIN used for in the book? It is used for angels, astrologers, foreigners, nature of forces etc.
peace brother NK, as i promised i complete my data most of it now we can re visit those questions again.. although you asked it from JKhan . lol
1 only ins and insan but we have more things to add al-ins and al-insan ? quran used all those terms.
2 not adam mean human in all events but in some verses the meanings of adam can be used as humanity. but also quran used lot of other words for human examples are
( bashar, naas, ins, insan, alinsan, rijal, nafs, majnu, mari ) 9 different form for HUMAN wao lol3 not JAAN but only AL-jaan is used for the creatures made up of NAAR. and jaan is from aljaan too.
4 no jaan only used for creature from which human can get scared it could also be snake as it appears to moses. it could also be rumors and stories about invisible beings ghosts etc hence he get scared.. point here is is JAAN only used for snakes, answer is no, because quran use three different terms for snake..
so moses get scared as it appears to him his staff come into jaan/snake/something from which he can get scared..5 exactly thats why see answer 4 again..
6 only used by quran once which is for (non-being) thing.
7 see answer 6 if you are asking about AL-jinn then i agree AL-JIN is BROADER in meanings..
brothr NK you can see it and let me know if you want to repharase your questions with the terms availaible now..
God bless us all.
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Salam!
Thank you, Imran! It is a great helpful thread. Other than the Ayats presented here having the word forms, I would like to consider the below Ayats as well
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032013 And if We had pleased We would certainly have given to every soul its guidance, but the word (which had gone forth) from Me was just I will certainly fill hell with the jinn and men together._
002024 But if you do (it) not and never shall you do (it), then be on your guard against the fire of which men and stones are the fuel; it is prepared for the unbelievers.What does the word means? Do you think it is replaced with ?
May Allah bless and guide us all!
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Salam!
Thank you, Imran! It is a great helpful thread. Other than the Ayats presented here having the word forms, I would like to consider the below Ayats as well
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032013 And if We had pleased We would certainly have given to every soul its guidance, but the word (which had gone forth) from Me was just I will certainly fill hell with the jinn and men together._
002024 But if you do (it) not and never shall you do (it), then be on your guard against the fire of which men and stones are the fuel; it is prepared for the unbelievers.What does the word means? Do you think it is replaced with ?
May Allah bless and guide us all!
peace brother,
first of all see the root used by is only used for living thing(beings) or
non-living(non-beings) ?
then we can see where we can use this word and root as per crosscheck method.and 32 13 is covered in this post of thread.
i seperate verses of and