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did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

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    unknownuser
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    Now Allah is telling this to him
    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/034.%20Saba/Temp%2001%2034.28.gif
    And We have not sent you, except as guarantor/giver of glad tidings and awakener/admonisher for the whole of living humanity
    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/7.187g.gif
    but most of the people they do not accept it/intend to recognize this fact.

    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/034.%20Saba/034.%20B%20Saba.htm

    Mazhar, brother, we all know he was sent to naas, people, human beings, but translating that "whole of humanity" is what I'm trying to understand and I'm not sure about your or anyone else's translation.

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      Leyna
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      Good morning

      I've said the truth that I'm better than him. is that arrogance ? .

      being better than someone, means that he should listen to you not bring silly ideas where he will look like a fool man.

      I said I'm better than him and I meant by it that I know things more than him.

      Interesting definition of "being better". http//www.cheesebuerger.de/images/smilie/konfus/n035.gif

      I'm sad because nothing in this post is yours ( copy/coll? ).

      And your point is?

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        aynur
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        God has made the name of the prophet side by side to his name, you have a problem with that go do like this brickwall .

        What? Do I understand you right? Are you saying that Prophet Muhammad (saw) is on the same level as God?
        Hopefully I misunderstand you....

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          Mazhar
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          Mazhar, brother, we all know he was sent to naas, people, human beings, but translating that "whole of humanity" is what I'm trying to understand and I'm not sure about your or anyone else's translation.

          The underlined words point out whole of An-naas, so whole of people means humanity as a whole. Pl read this also

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/025.%20Al%20Furqan/25.01.gif
          The Omnipresent, Perpetual, the Absolute is the One Who sent the Criterion upon His sincere servant so that he may become the Revivalist/Warner/ Awakener for the Worlds.

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/025.%20Al%20Furqan/25.51.gif
          And had it been our Will, We could have appointed a Warner in each and every town.

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/025.%20Al%20Furqan/025.%20D%20%20Al%20Furqan.htm

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            Ayisha
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            well, the prophet has testified to himself that he is the messenger of God, if you have any problem with that, you're not Muslim and Muslims are away from your evil spirit.

            As a Muhammedan and hadith lover you are here ignoring one very important hadith, the one that says of 2 people 1 says the other is not a muslim, 1 of then certainly is not! I see you pick and choose from hadith as you do from Quran also.

            God has made the name of the prophet side by side to his name, you have a problem with that go do like this brickwall .
            OOOh man-god is born yet again. Why do you have so much trouble following GOD ALONE? Do you READ Quran or do you just recite without using your brain?

            073.009
            YUSUFALI (He is) Lord of the East and the West there is no god but He take Him therefore for (thy) Disposer of Affairs.

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            YUSUFALI "Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper."

            (see follow that which is sent down with him, not follow anything else but what he was given)

            this is about you
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            YUSUFALI When Allah, the One and Only, is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust and horror; but when (gods) other than He are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy!

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              Ayisha
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              Quran 1 hadith 1

              whithout hadith you'll never know how to be a Muslim .

              Oh dear, however did Abraham, Moses, Jesus and other prophets of islam manage before? ??? o

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                Thereformer1
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                As a Muhammedan and hadith lover you are here ignoring one very important hadith, the one that says of 2 people 1 says the other is not a muslim, 1 of then certainly is not! I see you pick and choose from hadith as you do from Quran also.

                you know that you have just made a sin calling a Muhammedan. so congratulation.

                OOOh man-god is born yet again. Why do you have so much trouble following GOD ALONE? Do you READ Quran or do you just recite without using your brain?

                073.009
                YUSUFALI (He is) Lord of the East and the West there is no god but He take Him therefore for (thy) Disposer of Affairs.

                007.157
                YUSUFALI "Those who follow the messenger, the unlettered Prophet, whom they find mentioned in their own (scriptures),- in the law and the Gospel;- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); He releases them from their heavy burdens and from the yokes that are upon them. So it is those who believe in him, honour him, help him, and follow the light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper."

                (see follow that which is sent down with him, not follow anything else but what he was given)

                this is about you
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                YUSUFALI When Allah, the One and Only, is mentioned, the hearts of those who believe not in the Hereafter are filled with disgust and horror; but when (gods) other than He are mentioned, behold, they are filled with joy!

                I can be useful and make you understand the verse if you want.

                by the way your avatar give me an idea about who you are.

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                  Thereformer1
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                  Oh dear, however did Abraham, Moses, Jesus and other prophets of islam manage before? ???

                  first of all stop saying dear , I don't know you .

                  second of all, Abraham and Moses and Jesus and other prophets didn't manage before, but the prophet of Islam did, it's God's will.

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                    Ayisha
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                    you know that you have just made a sin calling a Muhammedan. so congratulation.

                    I can be useful and make you understand the verse if you want.

                    by the way your avatar give me an idea about who you are.

                    Oh please MAKE me understand the verse! yeah

                    I dont actually look anything like my avatar, do you look like yours? confused

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                      Leyna
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                      first of all stop saying dear , I don't know you .

                      oh dear

                      An expression of dismay, concern, or worry; strongly suggesting disapproval.

                      Oh dear, you seem to have forgotten to wear clothes.

                      http//en.wiktionary.org/wiki/oh_dear

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                        Thereformer1
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                        Oh please MAKE me understand the verse! yeah

                        hey, stop playing .

                        I dont actually look anything like my avatar, do you look like yours? confused

                        Yeah, you do but in a ridiculous way ( according to your avatar a woman wearing hijab can be a cheerleader whatever lol

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                          Thereformer1
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                          oh dear

                          An expression of dismay, concern, or worry; strongly suggesting disapproval.

                          Oh dear, you seem to have forgotten to wear clothes.

                          thanks but I don't want from her to call me my dear, is that clear for you as well.

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                            Leyna
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                            according to your avatar a woman wearing hijab can be a cheerleader

                            http//www.imagebanana.com/img/yylum0v/HARAM.gif

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                              http//www.imagebanana.com/img/yylum0v/HARAM.gif

                              you have to say this word " Haram" to her not to me, because this avatar is insulting the Mohajjabate

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                                Leyna
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                                this avatar is insulting the Mohajjabate

                                rotfl

                                Are you a muhajjaba? (I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge in case you don't like my spelling of the word.) If not, why does it bother you?

                                Btw., I know at least one muhajjaba who uses this picture as an avatar.

                                http//img710.imageshack.us/img710/9464/higabpom.gif http//img710.imageshack.us/img710/9464/higabpom.gif http//img710.imageshack.us/img710/9464/higabpom.gif

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                                  Thereformer1
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                                  rotfl
                                  Are you a muhajjaba? (I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge in case you don't like my spelling of the word.) If not, why does it bother you?
                                  Btw., I know at least one muhajjaba who uses this picture as an avatar.

                                  you know that I'm a guy but you're still insisting in insulting me, and you wonder why I am rude, I don't like people who they insult the Mohajjabate.

                                  so you're talking about her, so her desire is not Hijab as he claimed but I know Mujjabate and they always pick up good things in front of people.

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                                    Ayisha
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                                    you know that you have just made a sin calling a Muhammedan. so congratulation.

                                    Just a minute. I follow Quran so you call me a Quranist, you follow what you are told is hadeeth of Muhammed so by the same logic I call you a Muhammedan, how is that a sin? where is that mentioned as a sin in Quran OR hadeeth? Please answer my question this time without being rude and aggressive if you can.

                                    I can be useful and make you understand the verse if you want.

                                    I have said yes and am still waiting for you to make me understand the verse, I assume you can do what you say you can or is that also all hot air?

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                                      Ayisha
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                                      first of all stop saying dear , I don't know you .

                                      second of all, Abraham and Moses and Jesus and other prophets didn't manage before, but the prophet of Islam did, it's God's will.

                                      I didnt call YOU dear I said 'Oh dear', the meaning of which has already been given you.

                                      How dare you say that the previous prophets 'didnt manage' but 'the prophet of Islam did'!!! I am gobsmacked you dare to come out with such a .........I cant even think of a word brickwall Try reading Quran sometime, you will find that Abraham Moses Jesus and ALL OTHER previous prophets were also prophets of ISLAM, prophets of the SAME GOD with the SAME MESSAGE and the part given to Muhammed was completing the message that had started LONG BEFORE. Islam didnt start with Muhammed, read Quran and you MIGHT learn something.

                                      Lord give me strength! pr

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                                        Thereformer1
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                                        Just a minute. I follow Quran so you call me a Quranist, you follow what you are told is hadeeth of Muhammed so by the same logic I call you a Muhammedan, how is that a sin? where is that mentioned as a sin in Quran OR hadeeth? Please answer my question this time without being rude and aggressive if you can.

                                        the shouyoukh of Islam have paid attention to the new bid'ha of the people who call the others by "Mohammedan" and they said that the other religions had made the name of their religions from their prophets (christ for christian, jews for jews , budha for budhaism..) . it is bid'ha calling me by this name and know the the person who made bid'ha is in Hell.

                                        calling you Quranist is right because you follow Quran alone, while to enter to Islam you have to accept Sunnah and Quran both of them or you're not Muslim, this is a fact because the deen you take it all or you leave it all.

                                        so again my congratulation of the new sin, I hope God fogives you.

                                        I have said yes and am still waiting for you to make me understand the verse, I assume you can do what you say you can or is that also all hot air?

                                        No, I'll not and I'll let you concentrate in these two verses

                                        Truly thou canst not cause the Dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the Deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.

                                        Nor canst thou be a guide to the Blind, (to prevent them) from straying; only those wilt thou get to listen who believe in Our Signs, and they will bow in Islam.

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                                          Ayisha
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                                          the shouyoukh of Islam have paid attention to the new bid'ha of the people who call the others by "Mohammedan" and they said that the other religions had made the name of their religions from their prophets (christ for christian, jews for jews , budha for budhaism..) . it is bid'ha calling me by this name and know the the person who made bid'ha is in Hell.

                                          calling you Quranist is right because you follow Quran alone, while to enter to Islam you have to accept Sunnah and Quran both of them or you're not Muslim, this is a fact because the deen you take it all or you leave it all.

                                          so again my congratulation of the new sin, I hope God fogives you.
                                          Are you serious? I am SURE God will forgive me for following Quran alone as that's what He told me to do rotfl YOU are the one introducing other things into Islam when He clearly warned you against it rotfl

                                          oh and 'Jews for Jews' ? Who was Jew then, thats one I didnt hear of? rotfl

                                          No, I'll not and I'll let you concentrate in these two verses

                                          Truly thou canst not cause the Dead to listen, nor canst thou cause the Deaf to hear the call, (especially) when they turn back in retreat.

                                          Nor canst thou be a guide to the Blind, (to prevent them) from straying; only those wilt thou get to listen who believe in Our Signs, and they will bow in Islam.

                                          No I didnt think you could answer it, never mind eh rotfl

                                          This guy is hilarious rotfl rotfl rotfl

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