Questions to all Quranists
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Peace,
Respectfully.
Prayer is described in detail in The Quran, check the examples of the Muslims before us, how they prayed. I had this conversations with sunnis so many times, it's funny.Salamo Alaykom,
ok, prove that prayer is described in detail in the Quran ? die to see your proof (weakness proof by advance).
ok, you have had conversation with sunni who maybe has some basics in sunnah, well dare to make this conversation with me ? ah let me remind you it'll be not funny at all .
When it comes to charity, i must ask this have you read The Quran chapter 2, verses 215, 219
this is the chapter 2 verses 215 by the way the only verse that talked about charity is the verse 215, about 216 talked about fight and 219 talked about wine so first of all you have to read Quran yourself then advice people reading it " a blind lead a blind both shall fall in a ditch" .
Anyawys this is the verse
They ask thee what they should spend (in charity). Say Whatever ye spend that is good, is for parents and kindred and orphans and those in want and for wayfarers. And whatever ye do that is good, Allah Knoweth it well. "
this verse talks about "" which can translated to english "charity" which is also another type of charity in arabic is "", so think before saying that you have read carefully Qur'an.
look there two terms of charity in arabic "" and "", which can both means the same thing but in different ways according to the sentence.
the guy that you have talked to him"sunni as you claimed" he talked about another Charity and it's not in fact charity because the word in arabic is unique and you can't find it an english. Anyways he talked about "" which is mentioned in Qur'an but Quran did not mention how to pay it, here the sunnah came to show how to pay "" .
the verse talks about give money to your parents and to your kindred and the orphans wherever they are and the people who they are in need for some money and this thing can be done by your own decision using some money according to your situation . the charity is something else, so the verse that you have claimed talks about what the guy has asked you is wrong picked up, the real charity is in the last verses of the chapter 2 . this verse 215 is talk about Nafaqa.
so now I've must ask this, did you read the last verses of chapter 2?
and chapter 6, verse 141?
this is the chapter 6 verse 141
Of the cattle are some for burden and some for meat eat what Allah hath provided for you, and follow not the footsteps of Satan for he is to you an avowed enemy."
care to explain to me the relation between this verse and Charity "" not "" ?
Thing is, The Quran must be read carefully, you have to ponder on the things you read, The Quran is not a newspaper, it is a Word from God. There is so much wisdom in all the verses which they come in to play when you need them. I have learned so much just in the last three years .... it is incredible.
Peace.
You've read just three years and yet you can debate, woow you must be sooooooo clever , what you stated in this post is implied to you directly "Thing is, The Quran must be read carefully, you have to ponder on the things you read, The Quran is not a newspaper, it is a Word from God. There is so much wisdom in all the verses which they come in to play when you need them."
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this is the chapter 6 verse 141
Of the cattle are some for burden and some for meat eat what Allah hath provided for you, and follow not the footsteps of Satan for he is to you an avowed enemy."
care to explain to me the relation between this verse and Charity "" not "" ?
ahem, you quoted verse 142, not 141. If you look at 141 you will see there is mention of 'dues' in regards to charity
006.141
YUSUFALI It is He Who produceth gardens, with trellises and without, and dates, and tilth with produce of all kinds, and olives and pomegranates, similar (in kind) and different (in variety) eat of their fruit in their season, but render the dues that are proper on the day that the harvest is gathered. But waste not by excess for Allah loveth not the wasters.I think you owe an apology
You've read just three years and yet you can debate, woow you must be sooooooo clever , what you stated in this post is implied to you directly "Thing is, The Quran must be read carefully, you have to ponder on the things you read, The Quran is not a newspaper, it is a Word from God. There is so much wisdom in all the verses which they come in to play when you need them."
Gosh you are so arrogant! jedi
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ahem, you quoted verse 142, not 141. If you look at 141 you will see there is mention of 'dues' in regards to charity
he wrote chapter 6 verse 141 I corrected it and I wrote chapter 6 verse 142 not 141. because 141 is talking about charity in agriculture (the dues that are proper on the day that the harvest is gathered.).
I think you owe an apology
No, you owe an apology
Gosh you are so arrogant! jedi
how do you define "arrogance" ?, I've just said to him that he just read things three years and he became a preacher, so stop throwing words on me.
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he wrote chapter 6 verse 141 I corrected it and I wrote chapter 6 verse 142 not 141. because 141 is talking about charity in agriculture (the dues that are proper on the day that the harvest is gathered.).
no, you said 'here is chapter 6141' then quoted 142 and complained there was nothing about charity in it. If you had quoted the correct verse, 141, you would have found there was reference to charity in that as you just pointed out yourself.
No, you owe an apology
No I think you will find its you who are wrong and owe an apology but dont worry I will not hold my breath waitinghow do you define "arrogance" ?, I've just said to him that he just read things three years and he became a preacher, so stop throwing words on me.
That is arrogance, the manner in which you said it is arrogant, look it up in a dictionary.
From posts of yours I have read today you have stated you know more than anyone else here, I assume you dont even KNOW everyone here or their educational level or their religious level of knowledge. That is arrogant. As has been pointed out to you before your manner is not that of a 'teacher' or a follower of the prophet Muhammed (or any other) but is the manner of a dictator.
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no, you said 'here is chapter 6141' then quoted 142 and complained there was nothing about charity in it. If you had quoted the correct verse, 141, you would have found there was reference to charity in that as you just pointed out yourself.
first of all 6141 and 6142 talks about charity but which one / this "" or this "" or this "" or this "" or this "" .. so let's see if you really read verses as you claimed .
No I think you will find its you who are wrong and owe an apology but dont worry I will not hold my breath waiting
oh really what a pity !!!
That is arrogance, the manner in which you said it is arrogant, look it up in a dictionary.
this is your opinion, so keep it for yourself.
From posts of yours I have read today you have stated you know more than anyone else here, I assume you dont even KNOW everyone here or their educational level or their religious level of knowledge. That is arrogant. As has been pointed out to you before your manner is not that of a 'teacher' or a follower of the prophet Muhammed (or any other) but is the manner of a dictator.
whatever
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By your logic you should now be deleting your account here rotfl
hummm, keep dreaming.
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No it would be a nightmare! I haven't had so much fun in ages rotfl rotfl
that's because you was a lame old woman with a nose of ugly betty .
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oh nice, personal insults now from someone that doesnt know me. Such a wonderful advert for Islam you are NOT. elektro
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rotfl
Lol, I was just kidding with her , anyway it was a good one ..isn't?
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Nice that you have a sense of humour. I hope she didn't take it to heart.
well, you don't know me (I've never been serious) but you guys made me too serious lol .
and about the girl, I've explained to her that I was kidding after all she is not as I described her.