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  4. did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

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    Sirius
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    Seriously, why is everyone still arguing. There are some you argue with (usually Muslims) and even if you argued for an age, they will still find something to argue. They rarely keep to the point and usually, their argumentation is so weak that you're at a loss for what to reply. They throw in red herrings whenever they have the chance and resort to ad hominem attacks (attacking Avatars, attacking people's status as converts) not to mention (unashamedly) flexing superiority complexes.

    You will keep going around and around in circles because to traditional Muslims, even so much as considering that they 'could' be wrong is unfathomable, as demonstrated by our friend Thereformer1. There is plenty more I could touch upon but the fallicious arguments that our friend keeps playing like a broken record speak LOUDLY for themselves )

    Peace Guys

    Ps. I'm hungry, which is clear by my spelling mistake. We'll see who spots it.

    Pss. Who likes my new Avatar? Welcoming? Tehehe )

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      Mazhar
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      well, laughing is just for a time . we know that the people of Hell most of them are women, you just proved that.

      Whoever had fabricated this falsity, that person seems to know nothing about Islam and Paradise and Hell. Women have to be far great in number in the Paradise than the men, since each ordinary citizen of Paradise will be allowed to marry four women. And this is possible only if women are four times in number in the Paradise.

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        Thereformer1
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        The propeht ordered, ORDERED, that nothing be written down from him but Quran, the ORDER was never lifted, it was NOT to do with this getting mixed up with Quran verses, it was because ONLY QURAN was from God, the INSPIRATION as you call it, when you have previously said hadeeth are ALSO inspiration from God. Please make your mind up and stick to it.

        I've learned today something from a member here "each person to their own" ..so do whatever you want; my aims are not insulting you or being arrogant over you or whatever comes in your mind about me; my aim was just to show you that hadith is so important more than what you think .

        without hadith; you'll not understand Quran and if you think that you did understand it; know that it's just your desires and your evil soul and the satan have made you thinking that you did understand it.

        without hadith, you'll not undrstand the ligeslation in Islam. and you'll find some provisions hard in practiing them.

        without hadith, you'll not know how to pray, you'll not know the compliments of the prophet, you'll not know the inhertence and its conditions, you'll know know the quantity of Zakat neither you'll know for who it is valid.

        without hadith, you'll not interpret Quran in the right way.

        without hadith, you'll not know the Do'aa; and the sayings before sleeping and after waking up and in every thing you do in your daily life.

        without hadith, you'll not be able to know a lot of things as you claimed you do today.

        I dont think we will be bumping into each other in heaven IF either of us get there eventually, but why would I go back to Christianity when I can go your way and worship Muhammed-god. also, dont you believe I should be killed for leaving Islam?

        well, I'm sure they will kill you.

        You are not a very nice person at all, you have insulted me when you dont even know me, you have even insulted my avatar (childish), I bet momma is so proud of you. ignore

        No, wrong so don't judge me because of some bad words from me, you didn't hear the nice ones yes.
        well, your avatar hold a bad description of a woman wear hijab but she dances like a cheerleader girl which they are "not good" ...so gathering both of the terms is not good, anyway if I offended you by anyway, sorry .

        I don't know who should take the proud, but of course who deserves it.

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          we know that the people of Hell most of them are women, you just proved that.

          for what reason people go to hell brother?

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            Thereformer1
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            for what reason people go to hell brother?

            for many reasons.

            Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

            you know that the Good people also go to hell .

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              unknownuser
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              for many reasons.

              Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

              you know that the Good people also go to hell .

              He was a truthful man, he told us what he was shown, women got right to vote only recently and equal wages is still an issue all over the world and there are many other problems women can tell you they face in a society. so surely majority of women still live in a hell-fire.

              But my question is still the same, for what reason people go to hell?

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                for what reason people go to hell brother?

                for many reasons.

                Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

                you know that the Good people also go to hell .

                So you're saying that the people that go to hell are women and good people? I don't think Hitler fits under any of those categories.

                well, you have time back to christianity , and hope not to see you in heaven .

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                  Ayisha
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                  for many reasons.

                  Mohammed peace be upon him said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women." SaHeeH Bukhari 29, 304, 1052, 1462, 3241, 5197, 5198, 6449, 6546 (FatH Al-Bari's numbering system)

                  Someone tried to tell me that is because there are more women than men on this earth, similar excuse to men marrying 4, but that would also mean there are more women than men in heaven too ;D

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                    aynur
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                    well, the prophet has testified to himself that he is the messenger of God, if you have any problem with that, you're not Muslim and Muslims are away from your evil spirit. Yes the prophet said that he is the messenger of God and he said everything about himself , that's what you can't stand or better your soul can't stand, God has made the name of the prophet side by side to his name, you have a problem with that go do like this brickwall .

                    we are not talking about before neither about today, the imoprtant thing is that we born Muslim.

                    I'm still waiting for a reply from thereformer1...
                    From what you wrote, it appears that you think Prophet Muhammad (saw) is on the same level as God. Is that true??

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                      Thereformer1
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                      He was a truthful man, he told us what he was shown, women got right to vote only recently and equal wages is still an issue all over the world and there are many other problems women can tell you they face in a society. so surely majority of women still live in a hell-fire.

                      other than they are lots, the women are the root of every evil on earth. rotfl

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                      But my question is still the same, for what reason people go to hell?

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                      some reason from hadith

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                      the hadith is clear, being in hell depends on your last end.

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                        Thereformer1
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                        I'm still waiting for a reply from thereformer1...

                        A reply about what ?

                        From what you wrote, it appears that you think Prophet Muhammad (saw) is on the same level as God. Is that true??

                        No, the prophet peace be upon him was a human and absolutely there is no comparison between him and God, after all he is just a creature like us, but not as you think God glorified him and we should glorify him too.

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                          abdalquran
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                          We should GLORIFY the Prophet ?!

                          18/110 Say "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner

                          Is there anything you believe which is actually from the Quran?

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                            Ayisha
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                            We should GLORIFY the Prophet ?!

                            Is there anything you believe which is actually from the Quran?

                            rotfl rotfl

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                              Thereformer1
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                              We should GLORIFY the Prophet ?!
                              18/110 Say "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner
                              Is there anything you believe which is actually from the Quran?

                              Yes>>>>

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                                Thereformer1
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                                rotfl rotfl

                                As laughter increases, respect decreases

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                                  Leyna
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                                  peace

                                  God glorified him and we should glorify him too.

                                  Glorifying Mohammed

                                  As laughter increases, respect decreases

                                  women are the root of every evil on earth. rotfl

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                                    abdalquran
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                                    Yes>>>>

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                                    Irrelevant to the discussion. Listening to the Prophet doesn't mean glorifying him.

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                                      Thereformer1
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                                      Irrelevant to the discussion. Listening to the Prophet doesn't mean glorifying him.

                                      what about this verse

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                                        abdalquran
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                                        And what about this

                                        (33/43)

                                        Am I going to say 'Allahumma salli 3ala thereformer'?

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                                          Thereformer1
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                                          peace
                                          Glorifying Mohammed

                                          well, I've read this nonsense from this guy, and I've laughed because he doesn't know what the the meanings of the Arabic words, it was a waste of time reading his crap .

                                          he can't differ the word "Salla" in the sentence so how he came to that conclusion ? I bet he knew how

                                          Salla is an old word, and it was common before the call of Islam, and it means glorify . people used to say this word before to their gods and to their leaders . and it was by its negative statement "La Salla Alayka Alihatona" and it means " our gods repulsive you " hahahah anyway it was funny to read his creepy approach

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