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  4. did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

did Qur'anists know that the prophet has mentioned them ?

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    Mazhar
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    We should GLORIFY the Prophet ?!

    18/110 Say "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner

    Is there anything you believe which is actually from the Quran?

    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/Temp%2001%207.157k.gif
    Therefore/for reason those who accepted/believed in him and they revered him and helped him
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    and they practically followed without there being third party intervention i.e. in letter and spirit "the Visible Light" , the One which was sent from above in one go along with him .
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    They are the people who endeavor for perpetual success/fruitfulness.

    http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/007.%20Al%20Airaaf/007.%20Al%20Airaaf%20N.htm

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      Mazhar
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      what are you talking about ? . you know that the sentence before the verse is totally different from what I stated about the verse.

      hey Mazhar, try to understand my posts, then question me if you do not understand my posts, if you can't do that, don't attack me and leave a beautiful trace behind you.

      It seems you even don't feel shy in lying eye to eye. You said this in red and enlarged text

      ( ) You have called it "Word of Allah". Where is it written?

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        Thereformer1
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        It seems you even don't feel shy in lying eye to eye. You said this in red and enlarged text
        ( ) You have called it "Word of Allah". Where is it written?

        I didn't lie , this is from surat Youssef, verse 28 .

        So when he saw his shirt, - that it was torn at the back - (her husband) said "Behold! it is a snare of you women! truly, mighty is your snare!

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          Mazhar
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          I didn't lie , this is from surat Youssef, verse 28 .

          So when he saw his shirt, - that it was torn at the back - (her husband) said "Behold! it is a snare of you women! truly, mighty is your snare!

          This is how you misunderstand Qur'aan while revering Bukhari and others. You now translated it as the Qaul/statement of "her husband" and hence it is not , but Allah is quoting that husband of her. Note the wide difference between the two.

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/12.28.gif
          On this when he saw his shirt damaged/creased on its back he said,
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          "Indeed that is a sort of your dissimulation. Indeed your dissimulation is great".

          http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/012.%20A%20Yusuf%20alahissalam.htm

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            Thereformer1
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            This is how you misunderstand Qur'aan while revering Bukhari and others. You now translated it as the Qaul/statement of "her husband" and hence it is not , but Allah is quoting that husband of her. Note the wide difference between the two.

            hahah very funny, do you have any kind of a mental disease ? / the verse is from Quran, and as we all know that Quran is God's words which is in turn lead us that the quote is from God and that the Qawl/statement is from God but God used a specific type of writing is talking by using " " .

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              Mazhar
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              hahah very funny, do you have any kind of a mental disease ? / the verse is from Quran, and as we all know that Quran is God's words which is in turn lead us that the quote is from God and that the Qawl/statement is from God but God used a specific type of writing is talking by using " " .

              This is exactly how you consider gossip of Bukharis as the Qaul of the Messenger .

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                This is how you misunderstand Qur'aan while revering Bukhari and others. You now translated it as the Qaul/statement of "her husband" and hence it is not , but Allah is quoting that husband of her. Note the wide difference between the two.

                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/012.%20Yusuf%20alahissalam/12.28.gif
                On this when he saw his shirt damaged/creased on its back he said,
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                "Indeed that is a sort of your dissimulation. Indeed your dissimulation is great".

                actually God is not disapproving what is said by him, quoting him in a situation like this indicates that God doesn't disagree with his statement, so brother thereformer1 is right when he said it is qaul of allah.

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                  Mazhar
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                  actually God is not disapproving what is said by him, quoting him in a situation like this indicates that God doesn't disagree with his statement, so brother thereformer1 is right when he said it is qaul of allah.

                  Earlier than this Allah has quoted the Qaul of this man's wife, would you presume by that quoting that Allah is not disapproving that? Never presume anything which is not stated. Allah quotes exactly as it happened.

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                    Earlier than this Allah has quoted the Qaul of this man's wife, would you presume by that quoting that Allah is not disapproving that? Never presume anything which is not stated. Allah quotes exactly as it happened.

                    you are referring to which quote sir?

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                      Mazhar
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                      you are referring to which quote sir?

                      In the quoted Link is the complete Chapter 12. Please see the entire episode.

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                        other than they are lots, the women are the root of every evil on earth. rotfl

                        yes, thats why we are allowed to beat them, force them to live in clothed bags and to kill them in the name of honour. root of evil on earth....

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                          Thereformer1
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                          yes, thats why we are allowed to beat them, force them to live in clothed bags and to kill them in the name of honour. root of evil on earth....

                          don't take it literally, I was just kidding .

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                            Thereformer1
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                            Earlier than this Allah has quoted the Qaul of this man's wife, would you presume by that quoting that Allah is not disapproving that? Never presume anything which is not stated. Allah quotes exactly as it happened.

                            God knows . Yes God told us what's really happened with Youssef, the problem is he in need to tell you the whole story ? why Quran is Miraculous? because of it's way of get the story shirt with the whole details (perfect details). the Peot Imro'o Al Qaiss was so good in this thing too, he was telling a story with the whole details in a few lyrics in his poem. it was miraculous you got the whole story in a few words.

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                              afridi220
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                              don't take it literally, I was just kidding .

                              But dont you think that you re abusing your mother , sisters & daughters. elektro

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                                Ayisha
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                                God knows . Yes God told us what's really happened with Youssef, the problem is he in need to tell you the whole story ? why Quran is Miraculous? because of it's way of get the story shirt with the whole details (perfect details). the Peot Imro'o Al Qaiss was so good in this thing too, he was telling a story with the whole details in a few lyrics in his poem. it was miraculous you got the whole story in a few words.

                                You are not consistant! You say whole details are in Quran with a few words, perfect details, yet you STILL insist you need extra books to interpret and understand its meaning! )

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                                  You are not consistant! You say whole details are in Quran with a few words, perfect details, yet you STILL insist you need extra books to interpret and understand its meaning! )

                                  No, I'm entirely constant!! by the way we're talking about a story, it is not a puzzle.

                                  one more things ...how do you define something "detailed" ?

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                                    But dont you think that you re abusing your mother , sisters & daughters. elektro

                                    Look, I was just kidding, there is no abuse or whatever

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                                      szuberi
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                                      i read an authentic hadith that said Allah will show his leg/thigh to the believers on the day of judgement and they will fall in prostration. that was the end of hadith for me. maybe if mr. bukhari and mr. muslim and mr. hanbal had read surah ikhlas verse 4 that said "there is no one like unto Allah", they would have opted to dismiss this "authentic" narration into his books. the fact that they didnt, goes to show they didnt even know what the quran has to say about its very own author.

                                      this is just the tip of the iceberg. there are hadith that appear to be direct copy of verses of the bible and the jewish talmud. full of contradictions and bizarre stuff.

                                      all my 34 years of short life i have been blindly believing the hadith without knowing them but then i read surah isra 1736 and started to read these books. it was not long after which it became clear to me that these words and narrations can never ever be attributed to the exalted Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

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                                        i read an authentic hadith that said Allah will show his leg/thigh to the believers on the day of judgement and they will fall in prostration. that was the end of hadith for me. maybe if mr. bukhari and mr. muslim and mr. hanbal had read surah ikhlas verse 4 that said "there is no one like unto Allah", they would have opted to dismiss this "authentic" narration into his books. the fact that they didnt, goes to show they didnt even know what the quran has to say about its very own author.

                                        this is just the tip of the iceberg. there are hadith that appear to be direct copy of verses of the bible and the jewish talmud. full of contradictions and bizarre stuff.

                                        all my 34 years of short life i have been blindly believing the hadith without knowing them but then i read surah isra 1736 and started to read these books. it was not long after which it became clear to me that these words and narrations can never ever be attributed to the exalted Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

                                        Not only is Allah supposed to have a thigh but also hands face eyes etc. That was in a book on tawheed I was given to study when I did a course on Islam. As it was on tawheed I didnt expect it to be basically full of hadith, which it was, and implied that Muhammed was almost ...............................well the only way I can say this is that if I believed what I was reading I would be worshipping Muhammed as GOD in the flesh!

                                        ??? brickwall

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