Replacing money with acts of human kindness
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Praise be to God,
I read this as I was surfing through facebook, didn't have time to research, but the title stuck to me, what do you think of this as a way to stop capitalism and the destruction of the planet. I think it is a great milestone to work on, and see it leading to many other things, like the breakdown of barriers and borders, and also not wasting things.
What are your thoughts on this idea, would the Saudis or the Gulf countries agree to share their oil, instead of capitalising on it? I hear Western governments argue. Still doesn't require us to go and invade a country on false premise and destroy its infrastructure. Whatever God wills. Everything is in accordance with God's will.
peace
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Like this http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORC8YSS1WrI
I've been having similar thoughts. I think Food Water Shelter and other bare nessesities should be made FREE of ALL working individuals or those who have a valid reason not to work and must be taken care of...
but I also believe in many aspects of a capitalist system as well, for instance, All Required food is made Free, however if you wanted to get More or a Specific Different type or more Rare Food, you would have your own money to do so.
All people would basically be eledgiable to have a Free house (simple house), however if One who works harder wants a "Better house/Bigger House" He could then Buy his own house with his money.
The Good Parts of Communism, and the Good Parts of Capitalism.
It would be a system in which the Poor Minority/indegent people would actually be at today's middle class standards (i.e. small house, Food, water ,clothing,shelter), etc. and then hopefully in time develoupe a permanant system to destroy poverty all togeather.I dont know...Maybe its just coffee talk.
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I think it is revolutionary, and it will bring to an end the masonic world empire and the end of the monarchy. If people said they no longer wish to work with money, but instead replace it with kindness, because if people work for money they're rewarded only in capital, which they go and use to buy other things, and if you look to corporate industry you will find large chunks of wealth are owned by corporate companies and no single person has right over it. In an song by Ian Brown, upside down, he talks of seven percent own eighty four per cent of all the wealth on earth, oil is a spice to make a man forget man's worth, right here on earth'. If you see money as the power of darkness, or the root of all evil, that which corrrupts people. People can only deny this idea due to their economic status and greed.
Again my mind is being stopped from going there, maybe it isn't the time or place for it, or maybe there are forces working to prevent this sort of idea taking off. I don't believe in kindness in the sense of the absolut advert, shame it started in such a way, but regard it as a way to defeat greed, poverty and violence. I can get no support on this idea, insha Allah my Lord will guide me. But I was hoping for a better response than the one given. In the Quran it says
Those whose lives are terminated by the angels, while in a state of wronging their souls, the angels will ask them, "What was the matter with you?" They will say, "We were oppressed on earth." They will say, "Was GOD's earth not spacious enough for you to emigrate therein?" For these, the final abode is Hell, and a miserable destiny.
I want there to be world where people can move freely and without restraints of capital, visas, and beaurocracy, and the only way this can be done is if money is eliminated, there is no greed and there is no violence and poverty is removed, because people are not working for money but for kindness, rather see money in a way of putting it before the Lord, to know to God belongs everything in the heavens and the earth, see how the pretenders get caught out by the words of the Quran, they have schemes to try and make the words of the Quran backfire on itself, and let these miserly wicked tyranical elite become the Lord. May the Lord grant us victory against the disbelievers. whose pompousness and arrogance holds no bounds and they think they can create a world independent of the Lords, and claim independence from the Lord, when to God belongs everything in the heavens and the earth.
Here you know it is the Queen who stands against this.
Better responses, not think of your selfishness and worth in terms of capital, try to remove the brainwashing of money, the drug, the curse, the test.
peace
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Unfortunately it won't work because there is too much greed in this world. Plus it would ruin large corporations that need money. Think of all the jobs that would be lost if people wanted to buy computers with an act of kindness or a fruit basket.
However I have heard that during the recession some people started to come together to swap their own products and services. For example, someone who grows vegetables can offer a couple of free veggies for a plumbers services.
But there are still things we need to buy and can't just swap for. Things like electricity and gas, which are owned by the big boys.
So even though we can't get rid of the whole money thing since there are things we need to pay for whether we like to or not, there are some things we can 'buy' by sharing the products or services we have.
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Sorry nsw, I am on a different tangent, please bear with me, I was writing something else, hope you have the paitence to put up with me.
I was thinking of a dialogue between what the Queen would think."NO!" she says "let money continue and do not listen to them."
We got a democracy bitch, let the people choose, money or kindness.
You cannnot buy it (these things), you cannot get it (the ring of power), you cannot win it (on the seventh day God rested but no fatigue touched him, on this seventh era let the earth rest).
Let the people decide, what do they wish to work for, money or kindness.
Kindness doesn't mean you kiss each other for doing your bidding, it means you get what you give, ownership rights are still there, but where there was once money it is replaced by kindness. Money is a test, money is a curse and money is a drug. Without money then no one will succumb to the power of darkness, the feeling it is precious, no one will be seduced by the root of all evil, and no one will die because of that which corrupts people, instead of love of money, there will be love for the akhira, instead of selling ourselves for temporal materiality we strive in the cause of God and seek the recompense in the afterlife.
The Quran teaches,
"The example of those who spend their monies in the cause of GOD is that of a grain that produces seven spikes, with a hundred grains in each spike. GOD multiplies this manifold for whomever He wills. GOD is Bounteous, Knower."
Anyone who spends in the cause of God, is given a better recompense, this is an undying law, about giving in kindness, because if all things belong to God then who are we to take ownership of things. Do children have a concept of money, they have a concept of belonging and can be selfish, but love of money is indoctrinated into children, instead of striving in the cause of God, they work for the material temporal illusion.
When I thought of money many years ago in 2006, and I asked what do we do with money, I was so upset realising it was like the ring of power in the tale, but instead of only one yielding it anyone could yield it. The West and those who side with the Masons are like orcs and goblins, from the pit of hell, working for the all-seeing eye. The answer was simple but only now in 2010 do I understand it ' get rid of it', in the words spoken like Gandalf, get rid of it, get rid of it. It can't make you invisible but it can cause blindness of the heart.
?The devil promises you poverty and commands you to commit evil, while GOD promises you forgiveness from Him and grace. GOD is Bounteous, Omniscient.?
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Peace
I was talking about what RA786 was talking about so I'm not sure if it is was you meant too.
I don't think money is completely evil. I see it as a token that you can exchange for the things you need or want. The only problem is what people do with money. They can become greedy and keep it for themselves or use it for evil. I think the reason why there are poor people out there is because there are rich people not willing to share. So the problem is the people not money itself.
I can see what you mean about children being taught that money is the most important thing. They can end up seeking highly paid jobs just for the money instead of jobs that pay for what they need and also give them satisfaction of contributing to society.
It is not practical today to ask to be paid with kindness. We have bills to pay that we can't pay with kindness. So what did you mean by 'kindness' exactly?
Sorry if I'm not making much sense. Just hope to understand this issue the way you see it.
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I'll have to think about it, if we got rid of money totally, then the only way we can pay for things is by having something worth giving, but we would always only keep what we need and give the excess away, and that is what the Quran teaches concerning charity, to give the excess. You would only trade in your goods if there was something of worth to have. Like for example how the Europeans colonised America, when they traded the gold from the Natives for commodities such as guns and other things. But we live in a more blessed time, than they, one which will see the establishment of Islam, submission to God alone, and Peace, but if you reaped such and such a good, you will only trade in that which you lack, and you wouldn't hold back because you do not want to be tied down to excess baggage, and something that could go off.
Gandhi said 'the world can sustain the population of the world, but cannot sustain man's greed'.
Here there is an element of kindness, because scientist do not view us as creatures of God, they think we amount to a period of chance and circumstance.
They like to use the word kindness, but I feel it is to give without feeling stingy, and in the end rely on the recompense of God, rather than try to exact payment from the one you gave to. The beauty of it is also, you would make exchanges in things you need, creating a great big market place, like ebay but with different types of commodities, where nothing is wasted, some people would benefit of a wholesale lot whereas others may only need one item from many. Insha Allah, without money, there is only positives to be achieved.With the ever growing workforce we would be kind to the earth too, we would not try to exact too much from it, but as long as there is profiteering from others work, and no slavery as well, but property belongs to the rightful owner, and the laws of the Quran apply concerning orphans, inheritance and divorce.
There are no free people, they all belong to a family or a guardian.
Look what money has achieved, see the debts amounted by the richest nations, who live on the verge of bankruptcy, who do not show where the money is coming from but in their Budget tell where they will be spending the money. What has wealth achieved for the Arabs in the Gulf, luxury cars and yachts, where the needs of people are not met. Because money is a test, money is a curse, and money is a drug. You have to get rid of it.
Yesterday I stumbled upon a story, about aguy they found near the large hadron collider in Switzerland, he said he was from the future, and in the future there was no more money, they detained him in mental hosptial , but he disappeared. A funny story, but strange the next day I started pondering about a world without money.
http//crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/0,39029552,49305387,00.htm
"I believe you get what you give, I believe in live and let live, I'm beautiful ,I wasn't born to follow, I live just for today don't care about tomorrow, what I got in my head, you can't buy steal or borrow, I'm drifting into space free of time, I found a higher state of grace in my mind, I'm higher than the sun." (primal scream)
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Salam
You can always get rid of it by giving away the excess to those who need it. And there are plenty who really need it.
They would like you to keep thinking that, if they have so much then why can't they offload to those who need it, because of power, they derive power from money, to them power lies in money. For example, Tesco in the UK, is the biggest supermarket store, it makes profits in billions, does it do anything with this capital it has accumalated, no! It piles it up, and tries to become even more bigger. If it gave every Joe Bloggs who walked into its store, a free hundred pounds , it still wouldn't make an impact on their overall bank balance, but is that what they will do, no! If you giving then be fair and give to everyone, why them, it's unfair, what about me, you hear everyone say. So they don't bother, they're in business they are not doing it for free. But do you think it's fair to the coffee growers of the third world, who only harvestable crop is coffee, and people vary in whether they like it or not, whether they desire or not, and how competitive is the market. But are these workers given vouchers to spend in tesco, not even them.
To them power lies in money, power lies in guns, and power lies in boys. None of them tries to break its dependancies, and that is why God guides those who break their dependancies on anything, and seek God's way.
Now your growing up, and face financial struggles, and your thinking money can make a difference and isn't all that evil. But you do not understand you expect some stranger to set you up for life, think again. Money corrupts people, and like the Proverbs teach, money that comes in one big lump will not last, but money which comes in small amounts will make you rich.
So you see, money is cursed, it is the root of all evil, and the Masonic empire of the British historically points to the validity of this statement. But will they reform? Wewill see, insha Allah.
Expand on this idea, about the root of all evil, and the masonic British empire.
peace
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somethings like the power of persuasion are occurring, I spend sometime just stumbling on various sites, and stuff crops up like certain quotes, from Taoism, or from China, like for example,
" a thousand mile journey, it started with a single step'
or a song by Ian Brown, which used to make me tearful when I heard these words, very old now, about 8 years old now, but still fresh and quite good still to listen to."Who'd feed the young cos they're starving
In this beautiful world you marvel in
Who'd feed the young cos they're hungry
In this beautiful world you live in for free"It isn't about capital, it is about kindness, we are humans not robots, we all share the same heritage, and if we make steps to reform and revolutionise the world, then we can establish a world based on peace not war, love not hate and light not darkness. There is a lot to be learnt from these few words fromm Brown.
Peace
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The Christians are a bit agist, always going on about the young or children
The Muhammadans are a bit sexist, no explanation needed, who manipulate God's word to make the word 'khimar' covering the bosom to covering the head,
The Jews are a bit racist, with their exclusive land for those of Jewish faith, and the eradication and oppression of a people of different race.Capitalist devil worshippers - who try and build a new world order on the power of money
Now an opposite has risen, a world without money
This will seperate the believers from the disbelievers.
Appreciative or unappreciative
Caring or careless
Happy or depressedOppression - is worse than murder
Transgression - evil doesn't die until the root of it is removed
Aggression - violence is a form of ignorance spurred by hatred for capitalisation and exploitation -
The West are waiting for Jesus to return like a bird of prey, the Muhammadans too think he will descend in Damascus, the Jews are waiting for the trumpet to be blown on Mount Sion. It is time to take the initiative, because all these stories are myths, because Jesus, son of Mary's, life was terminated and he was saved from the plot of the disbelievers, and the one they slew was the fleshly part, that is the meaning of 'but it was made to appear to them, that they did'. So while they wait for the skies to open, we are here, trying to distinguish truth from falsehood. We know things by their opposites, and somehow we realise capitalism is destructive, and they ask if there is anything we can replace it with, total eradication of money right down to its root, because it is after the root of all evil, and evil only dies when the root of evil is removed, money. They will say we will die, then you can reply do you live on money or food? Below some thought.
Money the power of darkness, money the root of all evil, money corrupts people.
Everyone seems to be working for/with money, when it doesn't solve anything, there is one law for the rich, another for the poor, all this continual destruction, pollution, wars and famines, when will the earth be free, every danger leads to teh quest of money to prevent it occurring, there are countless charities, but they are incompetent, or impotent, as to how to deliver, because they work with money. Replace money with kindness, and all of a sudden, there is no more greed, there is no more poverty and there is no violence, light not darkness, good not evil and truth not falsehood, but Masons do not want to tell the opposite of capitalism, they talk of a free world, and a free market, but they hold on to the invention of money, money is a test, money is a curse and money is a drug. Get rid of it.
Instead of plundering we are reaping, instead wanting more we are content with our lot, instead of fighting evil we remove the root of it.
Instead of plundering through the earth, instead of reaching the sky with scrapers, instead of trying to prevent, instead of policing due to greed, instead of hating due to war, instead selling our bodies for money, instead of children taught reward in terms of capital, instead of bringing evil to the world forsaking the truth for falsehood
let there be kindness instead of money. We are intended to reap, not capitalise, we are intended to be part of the cycle, not the top of the chain, we are intended to be free to worship God, not slaves to money then we die. Without us the world would not be fulfilled, but with us we are reapers or plunderers. Capitalist are devil worshippers, that is why submission is not in it for the money, they reap, and hold on to the recompense of God, because God never fails to recompense those who spend in His cause. Ever heard the statement capitalist devil worshippers. Hidden under dust of corruption and ignorance, underlying it you will find they are Satanist, because they choose to attempt to rule, own and control the world. There come a time, when a child will say 'this is mine', and his mother will say, ' no child, it belongs to God, everything in the heavens and the earth belong to God, abide by kindness to others and submission and you will reap.' In the Pslams it reads something like, those close to God, lack nothing. Alhamdulilah, strive in the cause of God, to do that which pleases Him. insha Allah, peace
if like Plato and Aristotle claim we are all equal because we are made of the same handiman. Why was Muhammad born in the Quraysh, why was Jesus the descendent of Aaron, why was Moses son of one of the tribes of Israel. Pride is one thing, honor is another, who are the true Aryans, the white supremacist of Europe and beyond, or the humble Rah Putt of India? We will see. Who owns, the capitalist banks, the communist state or the Monarch of England. Can banks create wealth, can state be more important than family, is there capitilisation, corruption and exploitation in order to establish a Masonic new world order of the Queen the great pretender.
God controls everything, there is none worthy of worship except God, praise be to God Lord of the universe