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    nsws1988
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    Peace

    Why are they calling themselves 'Submitters' what is wrong with the correct English word 'Muslim'.

    What's in a name? You can call yourself whatever you like. You can't say that the correct English word is 'Muslim' because muslim is an Arabic word. The English translation is Submitter, which is actually an adjective not a noun.

    Finally I am shocked to see some very odd translations of the Qur'an . What is wrong with Abdullah Yusuf Ali and Mohamed Asad.

    You can choose whatever translation you like but you need to remember to double check some meaning yourself to make sure as there are some meanings translators themselves never agree on. Here is a good tool http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

    No Qur'an Only - God Only what every you want to call it is not for me.

    So you don't believe that Quran is enough and complete?
    No God only either? Do you have someone to associate God with?

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      Peace

      What's in a name? You can call yourself whatever you like. You can't say that the correct English word is 'Muslim' because muslim is an Arabic word. The English translation is Submitter, which is actually an adjective not a noun.

      You can choose whatever translation you like but you need to remember to double check some meaning yourself to make sure as there are some meanings translators themselves never agree on. Here is a good tool http//www.studyquran.co.uk/PRLonline.htm

      So you don't believe that Quran is enough and complete?
      No God only either? Do you have someone to associate God with?

      When God has given us this name Muslim and we all have full consensus, and all non-muslims also easily understand that name, then why to invent new name like submitter or anything like that??? It shows that they are not happy with the name God has given them!

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        nsws1988
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        When God has given us this name Muslim and we all have full consensus, and all non-muslims also easily understand that name, then why to invent new name like submitter or anything like that??? It shows that they are not happy with the name God has given them!

        God didn't give the name. God gave the description.

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          unknownuser
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          God didn't give the name. God gave the description.

          would you please explain it in detail? thanks

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            nsws1988
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            would you please explain it in detail? thanks

            Muslim is an adjective. An adjective is a describing word. Therefore it is a description peace

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              unknownuser
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              Muslim is an adjective. An adjective is a describing word. Therefore it is a description peace

              No thanks!

              Our Imamhe is a very knowledgeable person says that Muslim is a noun and a noun is a word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, etc.

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                nsws1988
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                No thanks!

                Our Imamhe is a very knowledgeable person says that Muslim is a noun and a noun is a word used to name a person, animal, place, thing, etc.

                Up to you peace

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                  Thereformer1
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                  Muslim is an adjective. An adjective is a describing word. Therefore it is a description peace

                  wrong. I'm Arabic and this word is a noun .

                  the adjective of this noun is Islamey or Mosalim . and those are the description .

                  try to read this verse

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                  And strive in His cause as ye ought to strive, (with sincerity and under discipline). He has chosen you, and has imposed no difficulties on you in religion; it is the cult of your father Ibrahim. It is He Who has named you Muslims, both before and in this (Revelation); that the Messenger may be a witness for you, and ye be witnesses for mankind! So establish regular Prayer, give regular Charity, and hold fast to Allah! He is your Protector, the best to protect and the Best to help!

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                    nsws1988
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                    Well I'm Arab too so there!

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                      unknownuser
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                      Up to you peace

                      estaghfirullah sister, who am I to choose when God has decided for us Muslim!

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                        Well I'm Arab too so there!

                        you are Arab but brother Thereformer1 is Arabic thus he knows better!

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                          nsws1988
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                          you are Arab but brother Thereformer1 is Arabic thus he knows better!

                          aha! very true hail

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                            Thereformer1
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                            Well I'm Arab too so there!

                            did you read the verse ?

                            ah you're from Arabs, so why you said that Muslim is an adjective ? hmm nope

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                              Mazhar
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                              http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/2.132q.gif
                              "O my sons! Allah has chosen the Code and Procedure/Model of Conduct for you;
                              http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/2.132r.gif
                              therefore you people should not die except in the state of being practicing Muslims."

                              They responded inter alia
                              http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/temp%2002%20%202.133a.gif
                              "and we are for Him the Muslims, those who follow the Path/Way of life prescribed by Him"

                              http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/002.02.B.083.%20J.htm

                              The plural of Muslim---active participle.

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                                Mazhar
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                                Most of the Arabs like the subcontinent are fascinated with what Persia had given to people, naively ignoring the complaint which is particularly and exclusively against them

                                http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/025.%20Al%20Furqan/25.30.gif

                                And the Messenger said, "O My Sustainer Lord! It is true that My Nation had made this Grand Qur'aan restricted "

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                                  Thereformer1
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                                  The plural of Muslim---active participle.

                                  what's that supposed to mean ?

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    what's that supposed to mean ?

                                    Derived noun.

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                                      Thereformer1
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                                      Derived noun.

                                      no, plural is not a derivation of the word .

                                      Muslim singular>>>>>>>>> plural Muslimin>>>>> derivation (Mosalem, Mossalamt,....) .

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                                        Mazhar
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                                        no, plural is not a derivation of the word .

                                        Muslim singular>>>>>>>>> plural Muslimin>>>>> derivation (Mosalem, Mossalamt,....) .

                                        Dear you are Arab, leave grammer of Arabic for non-natives since grammer of a language is generally needed by them.
                                        is a derived noun; Gerund/ is . The plural in nominative case used in the verse is its regular masculine plural which is used primarily to pluralize Participles which refer to more than two human males or group of males and females. They are the doers of which is

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                                          Thereformer1
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                                          Dear you are Arab, leave grammer of Arabic for non-natives since grammer of a language is generally needed by them.
                                          is a derived noun; Gerund/ is .

                                          sorry, why you don't want to understand ? what you stated here is wrong or you misunderstood something .

                                          when you have said "" you have turned the noun "" into adjectif which is a derived adjectif of the noun "" not a derived noun as you pointed out there .

                                          another mistake "" is source "" but not of "" and the word is a noun and it is provinience of the verb "" and the source of this verb which is a derivation as well is "" .

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