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Four Trans of The Kaaba ayat 5:97 !

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    unknownuser
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    Salaams,
    just for roaming

    005.097
    YUSUFALI Allah made the Ka'ba, the Sacred House, an asylum of security for men, as also the Sacred Months, the animals for offerings, and the garlands that mark them That ye may know that Allah hath knowledge of what is in the heavens and on earth and that Allah is well acquainted with all things.

    From The Message
    594-97

    1. O you who believe, God will test you with some of the game for hunting coming within reach of your hands and your spears, so that God will know who reveres Him when unseen. Whoever aggresses after this, then he will have a painful retribution.
    2. O you who believe, do not kill any game while you are restricted; and whosoever of you kills it deliberately, then the recompense is to value what was killed against the livestock, which shall be judged by two equitable persons from you, and to make such as a donation to reach the Quadrangle. Or, its expiation shall be in using it to feed the needy ones, while he abstains from it; that is to suffer the results of his deed; God forgives what has past. And whosoever returns, then God will seek vengeance from him. God is Noble, capable of vengeance.
    3. Lawful for you is the catch of the sea, to eat it as enjoyment for you and for those who travel; and forbidden for you is the catch of the land as long as you are under restriction; and be aware of God to whom you will be gathered.
    4. God has made the Quadrangle to be the Restricted Sanctuary, to enforce for the people, and for the restricted month, and for the donations, and for regulation; that is so you know that God knows what is in heavens and what is in Earth, and that God is aware of all things.

    From Aidids Book

    (Ya-aiyuhal-lazi na-amanu la-yub-luwa-nakumul-lah bi-shai?ain minal-soi-di tana-luhu ai-diyakum wa-rimahukum li-yak-lamal-lah man-yu-ghor-fuhu bil-ghaib. Fa-manikh-tada ba?da zalika falahu azaban alim) (Chapter 5 Verse 94)

    O you who believe, God may test you through the game hunting within the reach of your hands and means. God wants to ensure those among you who fear Him (while He is) unseen. Anyone transgresses after this has deserved painful retribution.

    O you who believe, do not kill the wildlife when you are restricted (hurumun). If anyone kills on purpose, he shall expiate with an equivalent livestock to be judged by two equitable men from among you as guides to determine the ?ankles? (ka?bati). Or expiating by feeding the poor or atonement for it by fasting, so that he feels the consequences of his actions. God has pardoned his previous offences. Whoever reverts to his offence, God will avenge from him. God is almighty, avenger. (Chapter 5 Verse 95).

    God has set the ?ankles? (ka?bata) the sanctioned in the system (baytil-harami) to be upheld for mankind, and the restricted months (shahrul harama), and guidelines (hadya), and the indicators (qo laa ida). This is to let you know that God; He knows everything in the heavens and the earth and what is beneath the earth. And surely God is fully aware of everything. (Chapter 5 Verse 97)

    My Own Trans

    But do see the context of the ayats before this to visualise what the quran is reffering to.

    FROM LANES AND/OR QD.

    Ka?abat(i/a) = Breasts beginning to swell(or had swelling) ,or become prominent,proturberant.

    Hadahidun = A stallion that brays much among the she camels but does not cover them.
    Hadun=He (a camel) brayed./A generous ,liberal,bountiful man/a strong man.
    Hadya= A camels hump much bent by lading
    Akala-idun A necklace/ A caravan/A man attacked by a fever/Irrigation of a growing
    Corn/ - its something following or something attatched/something one is
    Responsible for.-how about the pregnant/or one with little ones.

    Kalada = He irrigated growing corn.

    597

    Allah has made the Voluptuous female Animals the forbidden Bayt a source of maintenance for people and (any) such parading the forbidden and the bucks and the pregnant/or with little ones, this so you may know that Allah knows what is in the heavens and what is in the earth and that Allah of every thing is All-Knower.

    7833 the word is used there I think with more of the true nature of the meaning but in that case with respect to women.

    For signs of animals on heat see the following-

    http//www.worminfo.org/worm_control_methods/merkelsubandriyo/Breeding/Breeding_strategies_Page15.htm

    Salaam.

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      hlatif
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      Salam Mz357,

      I have several issues with your translation

      1- Voluptuous female animals. The KAABA and that Animals are connected in the AYAH, BUT not they were clearly not the same thing as you claimed.
      2-forbidden Bait Did you take the Arabic BAYT and translate it into an English BAIT? If so then this is wrong.
      3-
      Hadahidun = A stallion that brays much among the she camels but does not cover them.
      Hadun=He (a camel) brayed./A generous ,liberal,bountiful man/a strong man.
      Hadya= A camels hump much bent by lading

      You cannot use all those meanings since only one appeared in the AYAH HADYA. You used ALL thre even thought there is no HADAHIDUN and NO HADUN

      Salam

      Hussein

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        Salaams Br. Latif,

        "just for roaming "!

        Sorry ,I am not debating ,we all have our views as does aidid or layth e.t.c

        Take care.

        God Bless.

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