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Taking off the Hijab

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    Leyna
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    you have made a sin because of saying plenty of your girls, you see just two or three and yet you're making it global .

    You are misquoting her yet again. She wrote

    plenty of your girls who have migrated to mine - they wear hijab and work as prostitutes.

    So this is not saying "plenty of the girls in your country are prostitutes."

    Instead it says that "plenty of the girls of your country who have migrated to hers are working as prostitutes.

    Big difference!

    Hope that clears it up.

    peace

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      Leyna
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      My point is not about what you said because you have made a sin because of saying plenty of your girls, you see just two or three and yet you're making it global .

      you live in uk and I can bring statistics about your girls which the majority are prostitutes. I am in a Muslim country and the most of girls fear their parents and they can't be with a guy, look at your dark side every crazy woman hugs a dumb one who will get marry another one and leave 5 girls have made sexual intercourse with them .

      The majority of the girls in the UK are prostitutes? http//img52.imageshack.us/img52/7389/rofln.gif

      And all the other stereotypes ... love them!

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      Nice illustration of how traditional Muslim brainwash works in a person who has never been outside of his own country / cultural sphere to see and judge things for himself.

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        Thereformer1
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        I didn't make it global. And I didn't see just one or two. Get your facts straight.

        you did it make it global, you said plenty like all Moroccan girls have immigrated to uk (by the way uk is not a place to immigrate to it).

        how many girls you see ? (plenty!!!)

        most of girls from Morocco their destination is france.

        I am not English. I wasn't even born here.

        ok show me your statistics that show that the majority of women in the uk are prostitutes. "Bring forth your proof if you are truthful."

        42% of women in uk have admited that they slept with more than one man in the same time >>>disgusting.

        http//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/177333.stm

        And you can't say 'every crazy woman' because it isn't 'every crazy woman' unless you've actually met 'every crazy woman in the uk. If anyone is making things 'global' it's you.

        Yes, they are not Muslims, so I will not expect that they will be safe mentaly, they are free and they can do anything sleep with that guy but marry that one.

        Next time read the comments properly before making false accusations and being rude. That's all you seem to do here.

        next time, pick up your words or even pick up the right post you want to quote.

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          unknownuser
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          you did it make it global, you said plenty like all Moroccan girls have immigrated to uk (by the way uk is not a place to immigrate to it).

          may be she meant that plenty of those who have migrated to uk are such and such....

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            Leyna
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            you did it make it global, you said plenty like all Moroccan girls have immigrated to uk .

            sigh

            No, she made it perfectly clear. Plenty OF the Moroccon girls who have immigrated to the UK ...

            There seems to be a language barrier here. Please acknowledge it and don't accuse others of saying something they have not said at all.

            42% of women in uk have admited that they slept with more than one man in the same time >>>disgusting.

            With more than one man at the same time? Seems there is a LOT of group sex going on in the UK!

            http//img52.imageshack.us/img52/7389/rofln.gif

            Ah, here we have it ... the ultimate blow, the one and only argument that will shut up all Western-style feminists and supporters of free thinking and women's liberation All women in the West are basically prostitutes, and they will sleep with any man who crosses their path. They are all playthings for lecherous men and think this is freedom! Whereas in Muslim countries, nobody ever cheats on their spouse, there is no prostitution, no exploitation of women, it's basically a paradise compared to the BAD BAD West. And those who are defending women's rights just want to turn all women into man-hating prostitutes and undermine the deep morality of Muslims.
            &
            Hey, they even dare complaining about polygamy! But don't we all know that every man in the West has at least one mistress in addition to his wife, and this is perfectly accepted over there? Don't we know that the streets and orphanages in the West are full of bastards -- poor children who were abondoned by their mothers who have been abandoned by the fathers before? We all know men in the West just sleep around and don't have to commit to anything, right? Alhamdullilah we don't have this problem in Islamic countries. We have polygamy and male authority and -- of course -- the hijab. The magic hijab that gives women dignity, respect, guarantees her closeness to God and her protection from rape and harassment. The magic hijab that benefits everyone and transforms society for the better. How dare anyone question the properties of the hijab -- astaghfirullah!!!

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              42% of women in uk have admited that they slept with more than one man in the same time >>>disgusting.

              http//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/177333.stm

              wow

              so thats the freedom they love?

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                Sirius
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                42% of women in uk have admited that they slept with more than one man in the same time >>>disgusting.

                http//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/177333.stm

                Our friend clearly does not know what prostitution is.

                Prostitution is the act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.

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                  Ayisha
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                  What I'm saying is that the observance of 'hijab' has not hindered their goals, success or targets and neither did they feel a need to take it off even after the tensions after 9/11 across the globe. So for them, they have self empowered themselves out of choice which they decided to act upon and not worry about what people might say. They practice the deen for themselves and not for anybody else and are proud to observe the 'hijab' and are not being conned or forced into observing 'hijab'

                  Peace

                  I think thats all people here are trying to do but you are somehow telling them their choices and their ways are wrong because it doesnt fit with your way of practicing the deen.

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                    Ayisha
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                    you did it make it global, you said plenty like all Moroccan girls have immigrated to uk (by the way uk is not a place to immigrate to it).

                    how many girls you see ? (plenty!!!)

                    most of girls from Morocco their destination is france.

                    42% of women in uk have admited that they slept with more than one man in the same time >>>disgusting.

                    http//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/177333.stm

                    Yes, they are not Muslims, so I will not expect that they will be safe mentaly, they are free and they can do anything sleep with that guy but marry that one.

                    next time, pick up your words or even pick up the right post you want to quote.

                    since when did 42% equal the 'majority'?? Since when did sleeping with more than one man make one a prostitute? a prostitute sleeps with men, ANY man and MANY men, for MONEY.

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                      Ayisha
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                      Muslim men married to 4 wives sleep with more than one woman at a time, by your logic deformer, they are also prostitutes rotfl

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                        Imaani1
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                        rotfl rotfl rotfl

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                          zulu12
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                          Dear Leyna

                          Not only are you missing the point, but some of the nonsense and assumptions that you are starting to babble is really an eye opener for me and a sign of either desperation or sheer stupidity (with all due respect). I stated before not to stereotype, but maybe you don't understand what this word means.

                          ster?e?o?type (str--tp, st?r-)
                          noun

                          1. A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.
                          2. One that is regarded as embodying or conforming to a set image or type.

                          You make ludicrous allegations in your tirade using the words Emotional, Defensive, Aggressive, Intimidation and Mocking, once again working on assumptions. Damn, if everything can evolve around Egypt and 'only women experience harassment' in your eyes, what the hell was I expecting from you? A new definition and way of solving the negative exponent on the bottom of a fraction?

                          Where on earth have you been and what post have you been reading?

                          What you must try to understand because I know it can be difficult once you are in the 'stereotyping' mode, is that I am a man speaking direct to the point. Not one of your female friends, saying one thing but meaning another. There is no secret code here. Trust me.

                          Just in case you didn't get it last time, I will repeat again, I couldn't give a flying f@@@ about what women wear or what they don't want to wear.

                          You seem to have a problem with anyone who condones the 'hijab' but are all for anyone who condemns the 'hijab', because this is the NEW way of thinking and interpreting in your eyes. As though the last 1400 years or so has kept women in the dark ages and now you are a bastion of light and freedom for all Muslim women who want to make a change and take a stance. You cannot fix something which isn't broke and neither can you perfect something which is already perfected.

                          Read

                          53 ...................... This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, Allah is indeed Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

                          Unfortunately, your totally off cue assumption or shall I say lack of understanding of my posts, once again confirm to me that you believe that 'hijab' is oppression because it is not mentioned in the Quran, when quite clearly it is, but you cannot accept it, so in order to get your comfort zone, you sweepingly assume 'it doesn't say so and it is a manmade notion' disrespecting all women who do observe 'hijab' in the process.

                          On a final note, you can run down the street fully clothed, naked, semi naked, with 'hijab', without 'hijab' doing cartwheels and backflips screaming that all men are bas@@@rds and long live the Queen. Because it won't have the slightest effect on me, my lifestyle, my way of thinking, my household or anything else that involves me.

                          Peace

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                            unknownuser
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                            Muslim men married to 4 wives sleep with more than one woman at a time, by your logic deformer, they are also prostitutes rotfl

                            thats certified! big difference!

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                              Ayisha
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                              thats certified! big difference!

                              no difference, a man sleeps with more than one woman at a time or a woman sleeps with more than one man at a time, same thing, just because some men see this as a right doesnt make it right........but thats another topic.........its till one person sleeping with more than one partner.

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                                zulu12
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                                So the Quran was once again wrong in giving this option to the Believers.

                                So any man who has more than one wife, the ones after the 1st wife are all prostitutes?

                                My understanding of the definition of prostitute was someone who offers indiscriminately for sexual intercourse especially for money.

                                Wasn't aware of wives being prostitutes with their husbands.

                                Or is this a modern new interpretation using the root word.

                                Peace

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                                  unknownuser
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                                  My understanding of the definition of prostitute was someone who offers indiscriminately for sexual intercourse especially for money.

                                  yea, not just money, but for rewards, of different kinds, and sometimes the reward is just the satisfaction of certain desires.

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                                    So the Quran was once again wrong in giving this option to the Believers.

                                    So any man who has more than one wife, the ones after the 1st wife are all prostitutes?

                                    My understanding of the definition of prostitute was someone who offers indiscriminately for sexual intercourse especially for money.

                                    Wasn't aware of wives being prostitutes with their husbands.

                                    Or is this a modern new interpretation using the root word.

                                    Peace

                                    I was using reformers logic not mine and I was referring to the man being a prostitute not the wives as he is the one sleeping with more than one at a time. read reformers claim, its using his deformed logic.

                                    Quran didnt give this option to all believers, but thats another topic ;D

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                                      If you feel a sexual attraction with every woman that is not a ghost princess then I suggest you get some help. This is the problem not that we don't want to cover our hair.

                                      You poor girl... you don't know men at all. But they would be ashamed to tell you that. I'm slightly effeminate, so I'm not going to tell it straight.

                                      If you knew what men were thinking around you... woah would your hand be sore by the end of the day.

                                      http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9x5wY6hbX8

                                      Sexual attraction to women is natural in men, it's the first desire made in men by allah.

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                                        unknownuser
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                                        http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9x5wY6hbX8

                                        rotfl

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                                          FAR
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                                          2430 Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and keep covered their private parts, for that is purer for them. God is fully aware of what you do.

                                          Read it again mr... it says "Tell the believers (masculine)...", not "The believers lower their gaze". Because if they did then never would you have love and relationships.

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