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Do believers suffer more than people who do not believe

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    Sarah
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    Peace

    As a Sunni I used to believe this because of hadith. I'm not sure if it's correct from Quranic perspective?

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      Scribbler
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      Salam,

      According to the Quran, calamities will not fall exclusively on the unrighteous, but also the righteous

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      And fear against a chastisement / trial which cannot afflict exclusively those of you who do wrong, and know that God is severe in punishment.

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        salaam Scribbler,

        وَاتَّقُوا فِتْنَةً لَّاتُصِيبَنَّ الَّذِينَ ظَلَمُوا مِنكُمْ خَاصَّةً وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ شَدِيدُ الْعِقَابِ 825

        لَوْ كَانَ عَرَضًا قَرِيبًا وَسَفَرًا قَاصِدًا لَّاتَّبَعُوكَ وَلَٰكِن 942

        In 942, the term لَّاتَّبَعُوكَ not giving opposite meaning i.e. لَّا is used for emphasis

        Therefore my understanding of the verse 825
        "And fear (and avoid a) test/torture (that) strikes/hits especially/specifically those who caused injustice/oppression from you, and know that God (is) strong (severe in) the punishment."

        The Qur’an says
        And what struck/hit you from a disaster so (it is) because (of) what your hands gathered/acquired, and He forgives/pardons on much . Also 3036, 3041, 479, 549 etc.

        — To the best of my current understanding (17:36). ​من الله كل خير ولله الحمد
        "O you who have attained to faith! Surrender yourselves wholly unto God ..." [2:208], [3:102]

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          nimnimak_11
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          Believers get tested. This doesn't necessarily mean they'll suffer. If you are reverent of God, it's hard to suffer. It's hard to suffer because you truly believe Existence/God to be perfect so you truly believe that you and everyone else (including your family) will only get what they deserve 100%. If things look bad, you know it's only the appearance of things, or you know it's because you deserve it. It won't get to you.

          You'll be tested with some "fear and hunger and a loss of wealth and lives and fruits, but give good tidings to the patient" 2155

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            Sarah
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            Peace

            thank you for the answers people

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              The root of suffering is attachment.

              Attachment to what you want, to what you don't want, to your social identities, to the image of yourselves, to your body, to anything else that your persona / ego has attached / identify itself to.

              The attitude of acceptance (arabic islam without the capital i) can help to lift / release from all of your attachments.

              That's the lessons that you will learn along as you progress through your current lifetime.

              Until the time has come for you to say goodbye to anything that you've attached yourself to, including the persona that you see in the mirror.

              As such, the perception of sufferings has no correlation with social identity / religion but more of correlation with one character and attitude.

              A disciple asked, “Master, is it okay for a monks to use emails?”
              “Yes, son,” the guru quipped, “as long as there are no attachments.”
              -- 101 Monk Jokes

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