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    Thereformer1
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    http//idris43.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/arab_conspiracy_against_islam.pdf

    Nice shot man . The book is like reading my mind .

    I love this part " It might surprise the reader that those who claim to be the ?Muslims? are professing what is, in fact, an invented Arab religion " . abslutely agree .

    Thank you so much .

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      Ayisha
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      Nice shot man . The book is like reading my mind .

      I love this part " It might surprise the reader that those who claim to be the ?Muslims? are professing what is, in fact, an invented Arab religion " . abslutely agree .

      Thank you so much .

      elektro

      wow you read a lot in less than 11 minutes o

      This is talking about people like YOU ;D

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        Thereformer1
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        elektro

        wow you read a lot in less than 11 minutes o

        This is talking about people like YOU ;D

        Really are you sure ?

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          Peace,

          The word "a3rab" (alif ayn raa alif baa) in the great reading means "nomads", not "Arabs" as an ethnic group.

          9101 From the nomads (&#1576 around you are hypocrites, and from the people of the city.

          9120 It is not for the people of the city, nor for the nomads (&#1576 around them, that they should lag behind the messenger of the god.

          There are certainly Arabian traditions injected into the predominant sectarian religion, but how is that different than the Persian and Indo-Pakistani traditions injected into the sectarian religions as we move further east? We shouldn't follow the popular trend of dehumanizing the so-called Arab race, and we should be especially cautious of the temptation to ascribe racist ideology to the great reading, may the god be glorified.

          Peace,

          -David

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            Wakas
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            background
            www.islam-and-muslims.com/conspiracies-against-the-quran.pdf

            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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              Peace,

              The word "a3rab" (alif ayn raa alif baa) in the great reading means "nomads", not "Arabs" as an ethnic group.

              9101 From the nomads (&#1576 around you are hypocrites, and from the people of the city.

              9120 It is not for the people of the city, nor for the nomads (&#1576 around them, that they should lag behind the messenger of the god.

              There are 2 sets of people in there, the nomads of the desert and the people of the city. It clearly defines 2 sets/groups

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                abdalquran
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                It should be noted that Aidid Safar has now changed the title of his book to 'Mental Bondage in the Name of Islam'. He was made aware of the context of 9/97 (which he used to villify the Arabs before). 9/99 reads

                But some of al-a3raab believe in Allah and the Last Day, and look on their payments as pious gifts bringing them nearer to Allah and obtaining the prayers of the Messenger. Aye, indeed they bring them nearer (to Him) soon will Allah admit them to His Mercy for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

                So even if we do think that these are Arabs, 9/97 is certainly no evidence to villify all Arabs.

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                  http//idris43.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/arab_conspiracy_against_islam.pdf

                  http//mentalbondageinthenameofgod.wordpress.com/

                  If you want to leave the author of the book a message you can do so above or read others comments ;D peace

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                    Nice shot man . The book is like reading my mind .

                    I love this part " It might surprise the reader that those who claim to be the ?Muslims? are professing what is, in fact, an invented Arab religion " . abslutely agree .

                    Thank you so much .

                    You agree that islam is an arab invented religion? You expose yourself a hypocrite or a liar more and more. Why do you do that? Don't you understand that sarcasm is a sin as it is a form of lie. Ah wait... he's put me on ignore.

                    (I'm not arguing against the book... it's obvious enough roll-your-eyes over. It doesn't deserve to be mentioned)

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                      You agree that islam is an arab invented religion?

                      No, I've made a mistake, I didn't pay attention to the words . I've just read the first words then I pasted it without seeing the next words . My bad .

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                        No, I've made a mistake, I didn't pay attention to the words . I've just read the first words then I pasted it without seeing the next words . My bad .

                        Ah now you are blaming this this inocent creature >D.

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                          Thereformer1
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                          Ah now you are blaming this this inocent creature >.

                          is Satan innocent ?

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                            Ayisha
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                            Ah now you are blaming this this inocent creature >.

                            Maybe it was God trying to open his eyes.

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                              Maybe it was God trying to open his eyes.

                              I blamed myself because I didn't read the book very well, I've just pointed out some sentences without paying attention to their meanings.

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                                I blamed myself because I didn't read the book very well, I've just pointed out some sentences without paying attention to their meanings.

                                You read a small part and automatically assumed it meant 'us' and not 'you'. Now you know it means 'you' you will not read it or have anything to do with it because your eyes are blind and your heart is closed. Allow God to open your eyes and heart and stop following baseless hadith, lies propogated to lead you off the path of God and Truth. I dare you. peace

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                                  Thereformer1
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                                  You read a small part and automatically assumed it meant 'us' and not 'you'. Now you know it means 'you' you will not read it or have anything to do with it because your eyes are blind and your heart is closed. Allow God to open your eyes and heart and stop following baseless hadith, lies propogated to lead you off the path of God and Truth. I dare you. peace

                                  My eyes and my hearts are open from birth . Look at yourself . Hadith is not lies and of course Hadith brings people to the right path .

                                  Any one rejects Hadith came with a new "Bidh'a".

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                                    My eyes and my hearts are open from birth . Look at yourself . Hadith is not lies and of course Hadith brings people to the right path .

                                    Any one rejects Hadith came with a new "Bidh'a".

                                    hadith bring to the right path? Doesnt God do that in Quran? doesnt God say THIS is the right path and not those who follow others besides Him? You claimed in the other thread that Gods hadith is the best hadith and only truth ??? At least I though what you explained of the verses YOU obviously didnt understand. You are the one bringing Bida, you are the one listening to someone other than God.

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                                      hadith bring to the right path? Doesnt God do that in Quran? doesnt God say THIS is the right path and not those who follow others besides Him? You claimed in the other thread that Gods hadith is the best hadith and only truth ??? At least I though what you explained of the verses YOU obviously didnt understand. You are the one bringing Bida, you are the one listening to someone other than God.

                                      Did you know that your words are also hadeeth... do we reject what you're saying by the assumption? By the way, does that make Miss Bida or Mrs Bida? Or are we still friends?

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                                        Salaam, so what were muslims doing before Muhammed's pbuh Hadith were compiled?

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                                          Did you know that your words are also hadeeth... do we reject what you're saying by the assumption? By the way, does that make Miss Bida or Mrs Bida? Or are we still friends?

                                          yes of course my words are hadith, as are yours and everyone elses, but I am not saying take my words as part of religion, as part of the message, saying this is something Allah forgot or said in secret to the prophet.

                                          Bida is something added to the religion that Allah did not give. Allah did not give Bukhari hadith nor did he sanction the prophet to give something as part of the religion that wasnt from Allah. The prophet would never have gone against Allah and would never have added to the religion something Allah did not say in Quran. That is why he said NOT to write anything from him BUT QURAN.

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