My journey to a free mind
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You already asked this question several times.   ) )
I've never talked about prayer , I talked with Ayisha and I've proved that the prayers are five from Quran . You can ask her .
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I've never talks about prayer , I talked with Ayisha and I've proved that the prayers are five from Quran . You can ask her .
stop changing the subject when you are backed into a corner! Do you think we dont notice?
You didnt answer this
From the FIRST sentence this is already WRONG. As-sunnah is the second source of islamic legislation after the book of Allah, Reformer pastes. Quran says
Say "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail."...6/114
So effecitvely, if you take another source as divine, you are taking ANOTHER judge besides Allah.
Reformer, quran answers you too well, you may as well give up.
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stop changing the subject when you are backed into a corner! Do you think we dont notice?
You didnt answer this
From the FIRST sentence this is already WRONG. As-sunnah is the second source of islamic legislation after the book of Allah, Reformer pastes. Quran says
Say "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah? - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail."...6/114
So effecitvely, if you take another source as divine, you are taking ANOTHER judge besides Allah.
Reformer, quran answers you too well, you may as well give up.
Please , can you let me speak with him , I think I answer this post , you can a sk him, now he posted another one.
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You're absolutely right. Can you translate the ayat for me completely. Break it down word for word and actually start from ayah 112 and end at ayah 116, please. Please use your status as God's chosen race to explain the Quran to a poor ajami like myself.
I put the name of the chapters with the number of the verse, you can look for yourself . Sorry I don't like Quran in english because the meaning are twisted away . I'm so sorry . and if you want really to understand and to comprehend what I mean you can add me my email or give me yours .
Sorry, I don't believe in your 5 obligatory prayers. That was invented as part of the mi'raj myth where Muhammad rode a donkey to the sky and BARGAINED with God like in a fish market. God said '50', Muhammad said 'ok', then Musa told him 'no, too much'. This is the basis of your obligatory prayers. This prayers is not taught in the Quran at all. I therefore don't follow it.
I swear I've proved from Quran that prayers are five . And absolutely this not invention at all, I find it ridiculous saying this thing .
Quran mentioned 5 daily prayers
the two prayers ( Salat Al-Fajar,and salat Al Isha)
O ye who believe! let those whom your right hands possess, and the (children) among you who have not come of age ask your permission (before they come to your presence), on three occasions, before morning prayer; the while ye doff your clothes for the noonday heat; and after the late-night prayer these are your three times of undress outside these times it is not wrong for you or for them to move about attending to each other thus does Allah make clear the Signs to you for Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.
the noon prayer, and again salat Al-Fajar is repeated with salat al Isha is also repeated .
Establish regular prayers at the sun's decline till the darkness of the night , and the morning prayer and reading for the prayer and reading in the morning carry their testimony.
Salat Al-Asar.
Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the Middle Prayer; and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind).
Al-Maghrib prayer(salat)
And establish regular prayers at the two ends of the day and at the approaches of the night for those things that are good remove those that are evil be that the word of remembrance to those who remember (their Lord)
so,they are five ( Al Fajar, Adohr(noon prayer); Al Asr(the middle prayer), al Maghreb (prayer of the approach of night), and finally al Isha (which is the prayer of night).
by the way Muhammed peace be upon him ascended to the skyy by the help of Gabriel not a donkey . respect please.
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I put the name of the chapters with the number of the verse, you can look for yourself . .
Wow is that how you answer a question that asks YOU for a word for word on something? go look for yourself?So all the times you CLAIM to know the answers, all the times you CLAIM bring me a verse and I will explain it, the end result is 'go look for yourself' so you can then come and say 'hahahaha you dont know Arabic'
As I said, round and round in circles and getting nowhere. you have confirmed you actually know NOTHING, can explain NOTHING and have all the answers to NOTHING, thank you. I feel embarassed FOR you.
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Wow is that how you answer a question that asks YOU for a word for word on something? go look for yourself?
So all the times you CLAIM to know the answers, all the times you CLAIM bring me a verse and I will explain it, the end result is 'go look for yourself' so you can then come and say 'hahahaha you dont know Arabic'
As I said, round and round in circles and getting nowhere. you have confirmed you actually know NOTHING, can explain NOTHING and have all the answers to NOTHING, thank you. I feel embarassed FOR you. )I gave him the name of the verses with their chapters, he will look for the translation because he is looking for the translation which I can't give him because I don't like Quran in english .
And when he found the translation of the verses that I pointed out, he could ask me and if God willing I'll answer him . You got twisted about my meanings of "go look for yourself" we're talking about the verses .
I think Leyna have done these things before, I put the verse in arabic and she put them in english .
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I gave him the name of the verses with their chapters, he will look for the translation because he is looking for the translation which I can't give him because I don't like Quran in english .
And when he found the translation of the verses that I pointed out, he could ask me and if God willing I'll answer him . You got twisted about my meanings of "go look for yourself" we're talking about the verses .
I think Leyna have done these things before, I put the verse in arabic and she put them in english .
I didnt get twisted about the meaning of go look for yourself, or doesnt that mean what it says either?
I hope he does come back having found for himself what he asked of you, because others may want to know the answer too. Then we can be laughed at for translating it wrong and still not get an answer
Im done with you in this thread, this is a newbie thread.
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I didnt get twisted about the meaning of go look for yourself, or doesnt that mean what it says either?
I hope he does come back having found for himself what he asked of you, because others may want to know the answer too. Then we can be laughed at for translating it wrong and still not get an answer
Im done with you in this thread, this is a newbie thread.
always >>>>>> Trying to find excuses . I've had enough of speaking to you . I think I'm wasting my time with you .
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always >>>>>> Trying to find excuses . I've had enough of speaking to you . I think I'm wasting my time with you .
(O Prophet) These messages of God do We convey unto thee, setting forth the truth. In
what other HADITH, if not in God?s messages, will they, then, believe? (Quran verse
456)(Quran verse 316) But among men there is many a one that prefers
a mere play with ridiculous Hadith , so as to lead
without knowledge astray from the path of God, and to turn it
to ridicule for such there is shameful suffering in store.7750 ) )
(Quran verse 7750) In what other HADITH, then, will they, after this (Quran),
believe?sun
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(O Prophet) These messages of God do We convey unto thee, setting forth the truth. In
what other HADITH, if not in God?s messages, will they, then, believe? (Quran verse
456)(Quran verse 316) But among men there is many a one that prefers
a mere play with ridiculous Hadith , so as to lead
without knowledge astray from the path of God, and to turn it
to ridicule for such there is shameful suffering in store.7750 ) )
(Quran verse 7750) In what other HADITH, then, will they, after this (Quran),
believe?sun
Read my posts , I already explained every word that the verse stated it was "Hadith" as you trying to say .
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Read my posts , I already explained every word that the verse stated it was "Hadith" as you trying to say .
is that the explanation where you said its not bukhari hadith but some other families hadith and only this families hadith are not to be listened to but bukhari and muslim hadith are ok? ??? Did God forget to explain that bit?
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is that the explanation where you said its not bukhari hadith but some other families hadith and only this families hadith are not to be listened to but bukhari and muslim hadith are ok? ??? Did God forget to explain that bit?
I have explained for those who have mind . You don't have mind P you have a rock rotfl
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Welcome to the forum
I have read you posts in which you were saying becuase the Quran was revealed in Arabic that means that ONLY the arabs can interpret it in order to justify the stupid hadith.
Well I showed you the verse (7750) with the the word "hadith" in arabic hightlighted in blue to show that the Quran(the ONLY authenic hadith) condemns us following hadith.
Now how can you misinterpret that ???
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I have read you posts in which you were saying becuase the Quran was revealed in Arabic that means that ONLY the arabs can interpret it in order to justify the stupid hadith.
Well I showed you the verse (7750) with the the word "hadith" in arabic hightlighted in blue to show that the Quran(the ONLY authenic hadith) condemns us following hadith.
Now how can you misinterpret that ???
I know, it defies logic doesnt it, but they do it all the time. Apparently that means thats the authentic hadith from God but as He says obey the messenger they take that as obey the hadith attributed to the messenger. blind