7:3 Is دُونِهِ refers to God or to مَا أُنزِلَ ?

[Mazhar]

The prophet IS NOT HERE now anyway. What the prophet was here to do he has done and that is give Quran, that was his ONLY DUTY to pass on the message. His job is DONE. We follow the messenger in following Quran, the message he was given to recite to us.

So here you agree that "min doonhi" is Qur'aan since like the Messenger we also don't find and see Allah whom we could follow. We follow the Book which demonstrates that we have accepted the word of Allah conveyed through the Messenger.

[Mazhar]

Following the messenger however cannot be following his PHYSICAL pattern (THIS is the subject of the discussion, actually) because of 2 things
a. I am not phyiscally like him
b. I am not physically in his situation

I never said that try to travel back in time and follow the Messenger there. Messenger said he follows ONLY the Qur'aan. If you follow only the Qur'aan you are exactly following the Messenger. I don't know where is spirituality involved in it. It is simple and plain physical manner of living, nothing but private, family and social life conduct.

[unknownuser]

I'm not sure, but since "rabb" is right before "dunihi", I'd say it's following anything apart from the lord, not what he sent down.

which one?

1. follow "A" which is from "B" and do not follow anything other than "A"

2. follow "A" which is from "B" and do not follow anything that is not from "B"

3. follow "A" which is from "B" and do not follow anyone besides "B"

[unknownuser]

My understanding is that "min du nihi" in the verse means "any other" so it clearly refers to God and not to "ma unzila"

wala tattibiyu = and do not follow
min dunihi awliya = any master other than Him (Allah)

master is not the best translation of awliya, especially in this verse. thanks

[szuberi]

master is not the best translation of awliya, especially in this verse. thanks

Awliya comes from Wali which means 'guardian'

In any case, the meaning doesnt change. U appear to be caught up in translation.

[Ayisha]

which one?

1. follow "A" which is from "B" and do not follow anything other than "A"

2. follow "A" which is from "B" and do not follow anything that is not from "B"

3. follow "A" which is from "B" and do not follow anyone besides "B"

oooh i know I know!

C bravo

[unknownuser]

Awliya comes from Wali which means 'guardian'

are u sure?

put that in this
http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat10_files/10_62.gif

[Ayisha]

are u sure?

put that in this
http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat10_files/10_62.gif

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[abdalquran]

Perhaps then Awliya is best translated as 'allies'. I don't mind 'protector' either because I see it as being protector of Allah's system.

It's no different from being 'helpers of Allah' (ansarullah as the followers of Isa were). Does Allah need help? No but He gives opportunity for His servants to help Him.

[unknownuser]

what about this

http//www.submission.org/efarsi/arabic/Surat18_files/18_27.gif

likalimtihi and dnihi refers to God or book?

And follow what has been revealed to you of the Book of your Lord, there is none who can alter its (the book) words; and you shall not find any refuge besides it (the book).

??

[abdalquran]

Once again, I would cross check. 2/37 shows that Adam turned to His Lord ('fataba 3alayhi&#039 when tested with kalimat. Therefore, I would say that this 'refuge' in the ayah you quoted refers to Allah. However, we get Allah's refuge BY following what is revealed to us from the book.