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    Ayisha
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    AND I want time with all the prophets, and pythagorus and plato and newton and einstein and all the other great minds I cant think of the names of! '( Now THAT would be heaven to me

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      savage_carrot
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      I'd rather have some time with dark elves, the rest wait their turn Cross stitching btw? Lol, I'm going to try hard to fill up eternity with everything else but that!

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        See this is at odds with my view, I mean how can heaven be enjoyable if we have no desires/emotions? The whole neutral blank thing makes no sense to me. I want to experience all the things I can't do here, I want to see the progression of the world and then control it playing different scenarios to see the outcome, I want to know everything by learning, not some mystical data dump in my brain immediately and I'm uh, neutered...like choose a subject and spend eons with brilliant (okay they don't have to be good looking) teachers and feel this sense of achievement and then I move on to the next and so on. There's just so much I want to do and I don't want to be emotionless.

        Hehehe, I think it will be far more pleasurable than anything concievable on Earth. I've been in "eternity" psychedelically speaking and as soon as I entered that state the first thought was "damn, I want this for eternity", it didn't get boring the other 60 times either D. Remember that the emotion of "boredom" is only a switch in the brain.

        Also I doubt girls think differently to boys, if they thought any different we wouldn't be here p

        To be honest I'd kill (or rather, not kill, hehe) for some eternal time. I'd spend it building a replica of this universe atom by atom.

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          savage_carrot
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          Hehehe, I think it will be far more pleasurable than anything concievable on Earth. I've been in "eternity" psychedelically speaking and as soon as I entered that state the first thought was "damn, I want this for eternity", it didn't get boring the other 60 times either. Remember that the emotion of "boredom" is only a switch in the brain.
          I don't suppose you'd be sharing the recipe? Then again, I'm too much of a control freak to ever "let myself go" purposely, I start getting scared at the thought of events beyond my control, fear of the unknown, heck sometimes just thinking about the process of dying has me curled up in a fetal position. Not what comes before/after mind you, just the process because I don't know how it will be and it's well, kinda life changing if you know what I mean.

          Also I doubt girls think differently to boys, if they thought any different we wouldn't be here p
          Agreed

          To be honest I'd kill (or rather, not kill, hehe) for some eternal time. I'd spend it building a replica of this universe atom by atom.
          If you ever need any help...

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            BornAgain
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            Are you ladies seriously telling me none of you are going for the cute guys? Food trumps eye pieces of candy? What is this world coming to. Though I'd pass on the black eyes, heck if they're like that I'd be trampling over you girls to get at the buffet table.

            Hmmm... I won't mind a tall, slender, blue-eyed brunette to serve me with refreshing fruit platter. I also won't say no to a personalized massage sun

            Okay... back to reality now (

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              Ayisha
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              Okay... back to reality now (

              NO WAY! spoilsport '(

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                Leyna
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                I will be quite happy sprawled on the lovely couches watching the stream and someone bring me a coffee and some toast occassionally, I would pass on the virgins for a bacon butty peace

                Good, that leaves more handsome boys for the rest of us. http//foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif

                I'll have some Johnny Depp lookalikes, please. http//foolstown.com/sm/hug.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/sexe.gif

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                  Ayisha
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                  Good, that leaves more handsome boys for the rest of us. http//foolstown.com/sm/ura1.gif

                  I'll have some Johnny Depp lookalikes, please. http//foolstown.com/sm/hug.gif http//foolstown.com/sm/sexe.gif

                  I am actually starting to re-think all this now after sound advice and words from my sisters here hypno

                  muscle

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                    Alen
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                    Peace,
                    Respectfully.

                    Ladies, ladies, sisters, but what about your husbands, if and when they make it to Heaven?
                    Because i also think about my fioncee, when i think of mansions of those wide-eyed virgins.....i mean, i am really hoping my fioncee won't mind if i have like couple of hundred wide-eyed virgins bringing fruit and roasted duck.....(just kidding, hun, ))
                    By the way, duck in Bayswater, London - you got to try it. police

                    Anyway, i was thinking about that for a while now.
                    A wife and a husband enter Paradise.
                    They both get virgins.
                    Will the other mind, if .....you know....?

                    I mean, there's no cheating, just ....fun.......
                    Please don't kill me now. peace

                    Peace.

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                      As for whether the partners will mind or not, they will have all the time in the world to make a decision P

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                        Leyna
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                        Ladies, ladies, sisters, but what about your husbands, if and when they make it to Heaven?

                        I guess if you're married and want to spend eternity with your spouse, this will be the case, insha'allah. http//foolstown.com/sm/dan.gif

                        The handsome boys are for those of us who are not married, like me. There's gotta be fairness, right?

                        Disclaimer This post is tongue-in-cheek!

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                          Peace Ayisha,

                          Actually what I am trying to resolve are as follows
                          -the said modest gaze and wonderful companion, are they creatures of hereafter or they are of us but successful in the hereafter?

                          • it appears that they are provision for the successful men, if yes what about the successful women?
                            peace

                          zubairus

                          Peace zubairus and All,

                          Here is my two cents worth regarding the mater.

                          According to The Qur?an, in The Hereafter our physiological/biological build up is going to be quite different from this worldly, Earthly one.

                          In this Earthly life because of the natural law of ?ENTROPY? which causes the whole material world to age and eventually die out, we need to reproduce, because all living things die according to their life span. Sexuality is an evolutionary phenomenon necessary in serving the needs of Earthly living creatures, not to extinct as species.

                          According to The Qur?an, in The Hereafter we will be eternal and will not die at all, so there isn?t going to be any need for reproduction, so there isn?t going to be any need for SEXUAL activity, so there isn?t going to be any need for MARRIAGE/NIKAAHH.

                          And I personally believe that there isn?t going to be any sexuality, be either ?MALE? or ?FEMALE?.

                          With Salaam,
                          Khalil

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                            david_rs_aitken
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                            According to The Qur?an, in The Hereafter our physiological/biological build up is going to be quite different from this worldly, Earthly one.

                            Peace everyone,

                            I agree with the above statement; according to the great reading, paradise (frds) is a place where the righteous will be happy/blissful at the end time (yawm al-akhir). The bliss/happiness to experience there is not something we can imagine. So, if you imagine having the most stunningly beautiful spouse (inside and out) in paradise, think again. It's not anything we can fathom

                            3217 No person knows what is hidden for them of bliss/happiness as a reward for what they used to work.

                            Peace,

                            -David

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                              savage_carrot
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                              If we are going to be re-created down to our fingertips, would the sexual organs, that having to do with sexuality etc not be present then? Will we be re-created as spayed cats so to say? And if there is no sexuality present what is the purpose of mentioning spouses/partners? Why can't we all just mingle without this spouse/partner stuff?

                              I agree that we really can't know for sure, but we do have some allegorical verses that we may use to give us a rough estimation of what we are to expect generally. That's the point of giving an incentive, you kinda somewhat let 'em in on what to expect even if it's just somewhere around the ballpark.

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                                david_rs_aitken
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                                I guess if you're married and want to spend eternity with your spouse, this will be the case

                                Peace Leyna,

                                My understanding is that we return to the god all alone, as individuals for judgement. Then, we join the righteous of our worldly friends and family, but instead of maintaining those worldly relationships, we will be one family in a different sense altogether. I believe it will be totally different from what we can imagine because of 3217.

                                1980 He came to us alone.

                                1323 They entered the gardens of "eden", as did the righteous of their parents, their spouses and their offspring.

                                1547 We removed all bad feelings from their chests. They are siblings, oriented towards one another.

                                3217 No person knows what is hidden for them of bliss/happiness as a reward for what they used to work.

                                The following clips present a funny joke about this, but I think there's a lesson behind the joke. The background is that Larry David and his wife are going to renew their vows, but Larry has a problem with the concept of "eternal marriage".

                                1. http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsQpWHEYEMU
                                2. http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=THg_YZcUwyc

                                Spoiler isn't it funny how the Rabbi basically denies the ontological reality of the ending (akhirah) and then shouts, "Jesus!" during their glass-smashing ritual? ;D

                                Peace,

                                -David

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                                  david_rs_aitken
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                                  If we are going to be re-created down to our fingertips

                                  Peace Nadia,

                                  The god says that he is able to do this, not that he will do this

                                  754 Indeed, we are able to remake his fingertips

                                  It is a response to the previous question does the human think the god can't gather his bones? The god responds by saying that he has the ability to remake even his fingertips, but not that he necessarily will do this.

                                  Peace,

                                  -David

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                                    AND I want time with all the prophets, and pythagorus and plato and newton and einstein and all the other great minds I cant think of the names of! '( Now THAT would be heaven to me

                                    Peace Ayisha,

                                    I know how you feel. For sure, the prophets will be there. But are we sure that Pythagoras, Plato, Newton and Einstein have a place in the god's paradise? Maybe they didn't make it; it's not so easy. In truth, when I think of this matter deeply I'm much more excited to meat the greatest mind of all - that of the almighty - who created the natural world that men and women have studied.

                                    Peace,

                                    -David

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                                      savage_carrot
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                                      Sure I understand that, I was kinda appalled at the spayed cat notion. It's more than slightly disturbing. So, I take it the pure spouses/partners mentioned are... really pure as in untouchable? Way to go guys, women are oppressed on this earth and later on, we get our sexuality taken away and are presented with pure spouses we can't touch. I'm going to go sulk now.

                                      Peace

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                                        david_rs_aitken
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                                        Sure I understand that, I was kinda appalled at the spayed cat notion. It's more than slightly disturbing. So, I take it the pure spouses/partners mentioned are... really pure as in untouchable? Way to go guys, women are oppressed on this earth and later on, we get our sexuality taken away and are presented with pure spouses we can't touch. I'm going to go sulk now.

                                        Peace

                                        Peace Nadia,

                                        The spayed cat notion is indeed quite disturbing! Have you ever imagined not having a body at all? All throughout the great reading the god tells us, men and women, that we will have "hur" that are wondrous. Now, if we look at different derivatives from the same root, like 1834 and 581, it would seem that the word is related to conversations, which move back and forth. Is there anything more satisfying than having an intelligent, like-minded, free-minded friend?

                                        So, if we consider the fact that we cannot fathom the god's paradise, I wouldn't imagine bodies at all. Besides, if your sexual drive (irbah) isn't re-created, you won't miss it.

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                                          savage_carrot
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                                          Peace David,

                                          I've always wondered how the Cheshire cat felt, now it appears I'll be experiencing it, I need time for this to sink in. We often debate on rpg boards the necessity of being saddled with forced companions, my question still remains though. If we have the whole siblinghood of humanity that made it for mingling/conversations etc, why the need for a particular friend/partner/spouse etc? Can't we pick and choose our conversation companions? What is the significance of a special friend?

                                          If I still retain my memory, then I'll sure as heck miss it!

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