Those who take partners
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Peace!
4213 He has decreed for you the same system He ordained for Noah, and what We inspired to you, and what We ordained for Abraham, Moses, and Jesus You shall uphold this system, and do not divide in it. Intolerable for the polytheists is what you invite them towards. God chooses for Himself whoever He wills; He guides to Himself those who repent.
The truth is the system, it's clear, it guides to righteousness and peace, it promotes freedom and equivalence. It is also a nonprofit system, and there is no controlling the mass nor fascism in it. It's Monotheism and being righteous. Completely submitting to God Alone.
The contrast to this system is falsehood, it's built on complexity, materialism, control, trickery, fear, greed and desire... polytheism, vile, evil.I don't see any authority given by God to any other narration to be accepted after the Quran. On the contrary many examples are given in the Quran of each nations perpetual failure to uphold the system. Man seems to ascribe partners in this system after God gives them luxuries and ease. These partners can now add political strategy and fairy tale lies to guide the majority of the people who are weak and impatient. I have a tough time trusting people
I don't think God Almighty left anything at all out of the Quran.
May God guide us.
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Peace AK85,
Thank you for posting your thoughts. I believe 448 is the verse you're looking for?
I find 622-24 particularly enlightening on the issue i.e. idolators are not aware (and deny in the strongest language) that they had committed shrik. It must noted that this is not limited to any group, for it is but a humble reminder. -
Peace AK85,
Thank you for posting your thoughts. I believe 448 is the verse you're looking for?
I find 622-24 particularly enlightening on the issue i.e. idolators are not aware (and deny in the strongest language) that they had committed shrik. It must noted that this is not limited to any group, for it is but a humble reminder.True. I just feel that Sunnis should take particular heed though, because perhaps they may feell that it couldn't possibly apply to them
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God expects a peacefull society. Everyone worships their own idols and take partners with HIM.
Idols need not be a physical object, it can be anything that causes ego in ones mind and makes him think "I am different than others, or my way is the best way".
Racism, groupism, nationalism etc etc...everything are form of idols and causes fights and were against a peacefull(islamic) society.
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There is no such thing as anything but Allah. Allah is the only reality, therefore how can you have other "Allah"s without being an idiot, blind to truth?
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Wootah
I'm a Christian ... just letting you know.
Just want to know which christian you are?
Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans or Baptists, Latter days Saint,
If catholic, Roman catholic or Latin catholic, if Protestant baptist or calvinistOr are Easteren ortodox christian or may be from Anglican communion
Just let us know?
Thanks!
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About those who in this world identify themselves as "Christians" and in Arabic as Nisara, this verdict of Allah must not be overlooked.
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And indeed you the Messenger will find nearer in loving association for those who accepted/believed such people who identified themselves saying "We are Nisa'ara"They are the only people who have affection, love and sympathy for Believers. We should acknowledge and respect this.
Chapter5 -
Wootah
Just want to know which christian you are?
Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans or Baptists, Latter days Saint,
If catholic, Roman catholic or Latin catholic, if Protestant baptist or calvinistOr are Easteren ortodox christian or may be from Anglican communion
Just let us know?
Thanks!
Baptist.
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Ok we are all familiar with the only sin God will not forgive, those who take partners with Allah.
Now...what I wanted to discuss is what goes through the minds of muslims when they read this verse.
Well, personally, I see a lot of "We" going on in the surahs, as Al Lah addresses the Prophet and the people through him, peace be upon them all. I can only think to myself that "partner" is a bit misleading in translation. We're talking about a society that is heavily engaged in social interaction within the marketplace (and caravan) on a daily basis so, perhaps, there is a clue here as to a better interpretation or translation.
And perhaps, then, this is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit that Isa is quoted as referring to in the canonical Gospels.
It is also the only "unforgiveable sin".God is one. That is the only real addition to the discussion which I can offer at present.
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But it was just a conjecture.
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About those who in this world identify themselves as "Christians" and in Arabic as Nisara, this verdict of Allah must not be overlooked.
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And indeed you the Messenger will find nearer in loving association for those who accepted/believed such people who identified themselves saying "We are Nisa'ara"They are the only people who have affection, love and sympathy for Believers. We should acknowledge and respect this.
Chapter5Thank you very much for bringing this up, this interests me a great deal and I am going to study this verse and look at commentary on it. May God be pleased with you.
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As for "Oh he is not just any man..." That is incorrect, he specifically SAYS I am a man like you.
And if he wasn't, why would God ask us to pray for him and pray for his forgiveness? Why would we have to pray for someone who is perfect?
The highlights above are from me.
Salaam Dear AK85,
I do appreciate all your views in this post and second them all, but I am not sure if I've run into such a verse in The Qur'aan in which WE are told to pray for forgiveness of the Prophet. On the other hand, in verse 4719, GOD commands the Prophet to ask for forgiveness of his own sin and also for men and women believers as well. Let me know if you can pinpoint the verse you mentioned above.
Peace,
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About those who in this world identify themselves as "Christians" and in Arabic as Nisara, this verdict of Allah must not be overlooked.
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/005.%20Al%20Maida/temo5.082a.gif
And indeed you the Messenger will find nearer in loving association for those who accepted/believed such people who identified themselves saying "We are Nisa'ara"They are the only people who have affection, love and sympathy for Believers. We should acknowledge and respect this.
Chapter5I want to share this with a Christian friend of mine, can you please give me the chapter and verse?
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The highlights above are from me.
Salaam Dear AK85,
I do appreciate all your views in this post and second them all, but I am not sure if I've run into such a verse in The Qur'aan in which WE are told to pray for forgiveness of the Prophet. On the other hand, in verse 4719, GOD commands the Prophet to ask for forgiveness of his own sin and also for men and women believers as well. Let me know if you can pinpoint the verse you mentioned above.
Peace,
KhalilI regret not being able to provide a reference for that, but if I come across it again I will post it
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I regret not being able to provide a reference for that, but if I come across it again I will post it
brother I have been searching this morning before I went to work and now that i have come back but I cannot find it. If I erred it is because my memory did not serve me well, but for now I am reasonably certain that I saw this verse in which Allah asks the believers to pray for the prophet's (pbuh) forgiveness. I know there are verses which say to ask God to bless him, but I remembered this ayat specifically because it mentioned asking Allah to forgive him
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brother I have been searching this morning before I went to work and now that i have come back but I cannot find it. If I erred it is because my memory did not serve me well, but for now I am reasonably certain that I saw this verse in which Allah asks the believers to pray for the prophet's (pbuh) forgiveness. I know there are verses which say to ask God to bless him, but I remembered this ayat specifically because it mentioned asking Allah to forgive him
Dear Brother AK85,
Don't bother, like I menitoned before, I do not think there is any verse in The Qur'aan through which GOD(swt) directing the believers to implore Him to forgive the Prophet, but the vice versa.
Anyways, it is very impotant to ALWAYS ducument the word of GOD very accurately whenever we reffer to it. The word of GOD MUST NOT be treated as HEARSAY nonsense, like hadith or sunnah, and... routinely used by the sectarians. We must practice patience in that regard, and then, when reached certainty, then act upon it.
In the words of the preacher, "not a sermon, just a thought." ;D
With Salaam,
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Dear Brother AK85,
Don't bother, like I menitoned before, I do not think there is any verse in The Qur'aan through which GOD(swt) directing the believers to implore Him to forgive the Prophet, but the vice versa.
Anyways, it is very impotant to ALWAYS ducument the word of GOD very accurately whenever we reffer to it. The word of GOD MUST NOT be treated as HEARSAY nonsense, like hadith or sunnah, and... routinely used by the sectarians. We must practice patience in that regard, and then, when reached certainty, then act upon it.
In the words of the preacher, "not a sermon, just a thought." ;D
With Salaam,
KhalilSalaam and thank you for your advice, I have actually already began to take heed in another forum I frequent in regards to providing the documentation and patiently collecting the references before I make arguments. I will do this in the future as well. Once again thank you for your sound advice, I acted in haste to make this point and was swallowed by my fervour. This was wrong and I will be patient in the future, as God as has instructed me to in many ayats.
Salaam and thank you once again with sincerity for your advice