How to read and study The Quran? - new article
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offcourse you know the answer and furthermore this has nothing to do with present post of mine, any how this is the laymans informationSyriac began as an unwritten spoken dialect of Old Aramaic in northern Mesopotamia. The first evidence we have of such dialects is their influence on the written Imperial Aramaic from the 5th century BC.
All the Semitic languages' are built up from triliteral roots that is, the great majority of the words are derived from a simple verbal form, of which the essential elements are three consonants.
The Syriac alphabet, which derived its letters from forms ultimately akin to those of the Old Hebrew and Phoenician alphabets, has the same twenty-two letters as the Hebrew.Faragain this is not what is being discussed. Did I said I ally with him? this only tells you jumped in without reading the posts
quote by RaaajahSo if syriac began somewhere before that... why would you just accept one language's meaning of the root? Shouldn't you collect all the meanings used by that root when it comes to the words used in the quran as it defines itself?
You highlighted certain parts of who that individual was. Of course he is not what is being discussed, but even so we cannot take his words without him being verified by yourself.
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So if syriac began somewhere before that... why would you just accept one language's meaning of the root?
Because it seems to be the nearest, simple! meaning "religous reading". It can be from others,
but I brought it forward against MAzhar's post, where he said Quran cannot be from the root other than QRa.OPF
You highlighted certain parts of who that individual was. Of course he is not what is being discussed, but even so we cannot take his words without him being verified by yourself
.Brother go ahead, please verify, and disagree but don't try to undermine any one's research work without merit as our brother Mazhar does.
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Because it seems to be the nearest, simple! meaning "religous reading". It can be from others,
but I brought it forward against MAzhar's post, where he said Quran cannot be from the root other than QRa.OPF.
Brother go ahead, please verify, and disagree but don't try to undermine any one's research work without merit as our brother Mazhar does.
Huh? Errr... interesting format.
If the root of quran is nothing other than QRa... then of course it would be so because the quran says that the book is in arabic. To venture to other languages to understand the meaning would be a step beyond the quran. Of course we could learn how the semitic root developed.
Just like this religion was not fully complete until after the all the messages were given to the last prophet may he have peace. The same way we could consider that the semitic roots, or language and understanding of the terms, were not complete until the arabic had been developed. Well even to this day we are still learning of meanings of the root, such as even going to different dialects of arabic and understanding meanings through those dialects. Perhaps we could take understanding from everything termed as arabic. Such as North Arabian, or even South Arabian families. But Assyrian isn't termed as arabic.
http//www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htmAs for disregarding his research... he was a missionary. Missionaries don't have a good reputation when it comes to islamic studies. So from that, I give him a negative mark.
And it seems like he lost all his http//www.mingana.bham.ac.uk/biog.pdf page 12.
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I believe there is a single correct interpretation of the quran in which EVERYTHING clicks into place. I get glimpses of it every so often when I trawl through the "gup shup" and find some sense. However that is on the condition that the quran is genuinely from our lord, which I have near certainty it is. If it isn't then it is merely a cleverly written book.
It is not that the book itself is sublime when it can be openly interpreted, rather it is sublime when the interpretation is in line with the book and both are well and truly aligned with reality. It then becomes the unlocking key to reality, a self-evident and clear answer as to why things are the way they are, and how to repair things that are not right. One has to wonder why so much effort goes into clouding its message and diverting people towards vain discourse when it should surely be easier to merely change the text of the book itself, supposing there is no such thing as "God".
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I believe there is a single correct interpretation of the quran in which EVERYTHING clicks into place. I get glimpses of it every so often when I trawl through the "gup shup" and find some sense. However that is on the condition that the quran is genuinely from our lord, which I have near certainty it is. If it isn't then it is merely a cleverly written book.
It is not that the book itself is sublime when it can be openly interpreted, rather it is sublime when the interpretation is in line with the book and both are well and truly aligned with reality. It then becomes the unlocking key to reality, a self-evident and clear answer as to why things are the way they are, and how to repair things that are not right. One has to wonder why so much effort goes into clouding its message and diverting people towards vain discourse when it should surely be easier to merely change the text of the book itself, supposing there is no such thing as "God".
Sure I can agree with that. How is the Syriac root used?
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Sure I can agree with that. How is the Syriac root used?
It's not within my knowledge to answer that question, I'm just adding my 0.02c which, given the topic of this thread, seem to be in Ugandan dollars.
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FAR
Just like this religion was not fully complete until after the all the messages were given to the last prophet may he have peace. The same way we could consider that the semitic roots, or language and understanding of the terms, were not complete until the arabic had been developed. Well even to this day we are still learning of meanings of the root, such as even going to different dialects of arabic and understanding meanings through those dialects. Perhaps we could take understanding from everything termed as arabic. Such as North Arabian, or even South Arabian families. But Assyrian isn't termed as arabic
Sorry it is very hard to agree with your above assertion, You mean to say from Abraham to Moses and down to Essa the religon was not FULLY COMPLETE o o that is new theory for me?
Syriac had a fundamental cultural and literary influence on the development of Arabic which replaced it towards the end of the eighth century. how can we ignore this language's impact on Quran? considering Syriac was a major language among Christian communities in the Middle East before Arabic."In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth . . . "
"Fee al-badi' khalaqa Allahu as-Samaawaat wa al-Ard . . . "
The noun "Allah" predates Islam and comes to the Arabic language from Syriac.
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FAR
As for disregarding his research... he was a missionary. Missionaries don't have a good reputation when it comes to islamic studies. So from that, I give him a negative mark.
To discard some one's research on the basis of his religous believing is not justifiable in any court.
You are Wrong again! my brother, to name few
Dr. Gary Miller was an Ex-Christian missionary who understood Islam well, he was a mathematician and theologian too. He converted to Islam after reading the Quran and finding out that the Quran did not hold any mistakes or contradictions.Gary Miller?s has produced numerous articles on Islam and the Quran which are published online.
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David Benjamin Keldani who wrote "Muhammad in the Bible".
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Sorry it is very hard to agree with your above assertion, You mean to say from Abraham to Moses and down to Essa the religon was not FULLY COMPLETE o o that is new theory for me?
Syriac had a fundamental cultural and literary influence on the development of Arabic which replaced it towards the end of the eighth century. how can we ignore this language's impact on Quran? considering Syriac was a major language among Christian communities in the Middle East before Arabic."In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth . . . "
"Fee al-badi' khalaqa Allahu as-Samaawaat wa al-Ard . . . "
The noun "Allah" predates Islam and comes to the Arabic language from Syriac.
Quran 53 and John 1612 and Isaiah 42 through to Isaiah 54.
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FAR
To discard some one's research on the basis of his religous believing is not justifiable in any court.
You are Wrong again! my brother, to name few
Dr. Gary Miller was an Ex-Christian missionary who understood Islam well, he was a mathematician and theologian too. He converted to Islam after reading the Quran and finding out that the Quran did not hold any mistakes or contradictions.Gary Miller?s has produced numerous articles on Islam and the Quran which are published online.
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David Benjamin Keldani who wrote "Muhammad in the Bible".
Who said we're discarding it? Quran 496 speaks about if a wicked person brings news... then we investigate. It doesn't say "ignore ignore".
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Who said we're discarding it?
FAR
As for disregarding his research... he was a missionary. Missionaries don't have a good reputation when it comes to islamic studies. So from that, I give him a negative mark.
to take one's study with prejudice is not a good way, dear, that is what most Muslims, wether Quranists, Shia, Sunni or any other cultists do when they read Quran,
Quran=word of God
Quran=100%
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Quran 53 and John 1612 and Isaiah 42 through to Isaiah 54.
I think brother you need to go through Quran once more and then again and again, as I do or any one does who is in find of truth.
Is Surah 5 the last Surah that was revealed? and this particular verse the last verse which was revealed? if YES (which is FAR from the truth) then only I can accept what you are trying to suggest.
Have you taken the meaning of "Youm" as "Today" meaning that particular day?Brother I don't want to comment on "Men's commentary" so we restrict it to Quran at this moment.
Raj-ah
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FARto take one's study with prejudice is not a good way, dear, that is what most Muslims, wether Quranists, Shia, Sunni or any other cultists do when they read Quran,
Quran=word of God
Quran=100%
nope nopeI didn't say discarding, I said disregarding. Big difference.
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Oh Sure, but what is your point?This was answer to which question of mine? sorry i did not get it
Stop drinking coffee. Refer to
FAR
To discard some one's research on the basis of his religous believing is not justifiable in any court.
You are Wrong again! my brother, to name few
Dr. Gary Miller was an Ex-Christian missionary who understood Islam well, he was a mathematician and theologian too. He converted to Islam after reading the Quran and finding out that the Quran did not hold any mistakes or contradictions.Gary Miller?s has produced numerous articles on Islam and the Quran which are published online.
and
David Benjamin Keldani who wrote "Muhammad in the Bible".
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FAR
Stop drinking coffee.
Well I don't driiiiiink coffee no body does
FAR
As for disregarding his research... he was a missionary. Missionaries don't have a good reputation when it comes to islamic studies. So from that, I give him a negative mark.
Alright; we make slight change, read it now
To disregard some one's research on the basis of his religous believing is not justifiable in any court.
You are Wrong again! my brother, to name few
Dr. Gary Miller was an Ex-Christian missionary who understood Islam well, he was a mathematician and theologian too. He converted to Islam after reading the Quran and finding out that the Quran did not hold any mistakes or contradictions.Gary Miller?s has produced numerous articles on Islam and the Quran which are published online.
and
David Benjamin Keldani who wrote "Muhammad in the Bible".
Anyways
Discard means "To reject" and disregard means "To Ignore"
So either you reject or ignore some one's reserach on the the mere basis of religous believes is called what?I think its time for your coffee now!
Raj-ah
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Peace Wakas
Thanks for the article. My philisophy when it comes to studying the Quran the last 1-2 years, or approaching the Quran if you will, have been similar to yours. But i have to admit that i have not had a method to follow. I have just read different translations and books with explanations of the Quran, and made my own explanations of different verses in the Quran. So i have had a philosophy, but not a method. A method seems more comprehensive, and seems to be based more on practicality than a philosophy.
I have always wanted to to do a more serious study of the Quran. A study with clear and spesific principles. But i have been busy with other things in my life, and I have therefore not started a more serious study (scholarly study as i like to call it) of the Quran yet. So until now I have not done a serious study by using professional root and word cross-reference. And i have not used grammar. I learned knew things from your article. Now it is time for change. From today, i will change my approach completely. Below i have written some additional suggestions. Unfortunately most of them are my personal experiences, so you should verify them with the Quran. Some of what i said might have crossover to existing principles you have written.
Things you can add to your article
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That technology has enabled us to do a professional study of the Quran without being able to speak the arabic language. A common misconception among muslims and non-muslims is that you have to be able to speak the arabic language if you want to study the Quran, or if you want to understand it.
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Obeying the laws of the Quran, leads to development.
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The importance of having a conviction of life after death when studying the Quran. Detachment of the worldly gains and ambitions. Not to seek prestige on earth.
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Learning about different truths, discarding fantasy and falsehood, being in contact with Reality. Exploring what is natural.
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Peace David, all,
Reading AQ without a specific study method is fine, however if you want to study something specific and in detail, then a systematic method is the preference, as this simply stacks the odds in your favour in finding the answer. And since the mind is what we filter information through, it is crucial to have this as good as one can, hence inclusion of critical thinking links. Note, I do NOT mean knowledge, I mean thought process. The beauty of improving one's mind in this field is it will benefit one's choices in life, regardless of subject. Imagine doing a course that would result in say 10% improvement in one's critical thinking, thus decision making, thus 10% better life. Truly an amazing thought!
You may be interested in the following concept/abstract question I asked http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=14245.0
Since I have a huge preference for practicality, I wanted the article to not only provide general guidance but also a "how to", i.e. a simple step by step to follow.
The other points you mention are pretty much encompassed in the AQ references I list at the bottom, except perhaps number 3.
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Peace Wakas
I agree, a systematic method will increase our chances of the finding the spesific answers we are looking for.
I think a systematic method is vital when it comes to verification. Without a systematic method, we will
just be looking at the building of a concept (the big picture). But with a systematic method, we will see
the building blocks a concept (the details) which i think will help us when it comes to verification.I have read about crtical thinking skills in the past, directly in different articles, and indirectly in different books.
I think learning about critical thinking skills is important and can absolutely improve our mind. At the same time we should keep in mind that some of the best ways to improve our critical thinking skills is to have knowledge on many subjects. When somebody gets knowledge on many subjects, their critical thinking skills automatically improves. If a person see the whole picture, it will be easier to associate different concepts, and compare them with eachother, which will then enable him to detect logical holes with great accuracy. When it comes to knowledge
"It is better to know a little about many subjects, than to know much about one subject".I read your ideas on the game Blind man's bluff. The ideas contained some important lessons. Yes, we should have tools, tactics and methods when we want to find something Whether it be truth, or self-knowledge. We should not walk through the path of life unprepared.
You are right. I did not notice that your article contained those points the first time. Because those points were formulated different than how i formulated them. I read your article one more time and saw that the other points was in it. When it comes to point number 3 in my last post, you may wish add it to your article. Point number 3 on my last post, is backed up by the Quran. The Quran tells us the importance of believing in life after death when
reading/studying itQuran 1745
And when you read the Quran, We place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier.
