God saying matter is real
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67 And if We had sent down to you a book already written on paper, and they touched it with their own hands, then those who have rejected would say "This is but clear magic!"
If we look at other signs other than the clear meaning of this verse; Does it mean that you insist on accepting all these realities as an illusion and illusion, even though we clearly present you physical things that you can perceive with your buyers?
5213 The Day they will be called into Hell, forcibly
5214 "This is the Fire which you used to deny!"
5215 "Is this magic, or do you not see?"
Again, apart from the first clear meaning of this verse, if we are to do brain training; You have always called the world of matter a dream, an illusion, now taste the torment of the fierce fire and see if matter is real or is it illusion? Could it also contain an indirect warning in its sense?
5244 And if they see a portion from the heaven falling, they will say "Piled clouds!"
542 And if they see a sign, they turn away and say "Ongoing magic!"
In these verses, apart from their first meanings, can it be a warning for those who see the world of matter as an illusion and try to deny its reality by saying that there are "energy fluctuations piled up in the origin of matter" or something?
630 And if you could see them when they are standing at their Lord; He said "Is this not the truth?" They said "Yes, by our Lord," He said "Then taste the retribution for what you have rejected."
Again, in this verse, the first and real sense of the disappointment of the unbelievers as a result of their religious denial is described. But again, if we are to do brain training other than the first meaning of the verses, that those who thinks worls is a illusion despite all their proof of the material world be criticized indirectly.
As I said, the reason I wrote all these verses is just to exercise the mind. In any case, no one can say "this is the following" for the secondary and tertiary meanings of the verses. Those who say are in error.
However, some verses directly give us the information that matter-creatures are real
463 We did create the heavens and the earth, and everything between them except, with the truth, and for an appointed time. And those who disbelieve turn away from what they are being warned with.
2944 God created the heavens and the earth with truth. In that is a sign for the faithful.
In his verses, Allah states that He created as "truth".
In addition, in some of his verses, he swears on the creatures he created. For example
951 By the fig and the olive.
952 And the mount of ages.
953 And this land of peace.
Our Lord does not swear on a dream. The truth is that he swears on them.
In short, the belief that "everything is a game of our perceptions, in fact matter is just a dream" that the Spiritualist/New Ageist doctrine tries to impose on people is not true.
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/madde-de-gercektir.html
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67 And if We had sent down to you a book already written on paper, and they touched it with their own hands, then those who have rejected would say "This is but clear magic!"
I have come across some people who think exactly that when God sends them signs that break linear paths. They are very quick to scream magic/witchcraft.
Does it mean that you insist on accepting all these realities as an illusion and illusion, even though we clearly present you physical things that you can perceive with your buyers?
You have always called the world of matter a dream, an illusion, now taste the torment of the fierce fire and see if matter is real or is it illusion? Could it also contain an indirect warning in its sense?
I don't think 67 is about that. People I mentioned usually believe that the so called "magic" has come from rituals done by some magician.
I'm still trying to understand the nature of realities. The word illusion seems to be related to simulation theory. But
yes, it does get abused a lot. The misconception I hear from some is that if reality is an illusion then there is nothing good and bad.5244 And if they see a portion from the heaven falling, they will say "Piled clouds!"
Reminds me of climate deniers.
542 And if they see a sign, they turn away and say "Ongoing magic!"
In these verses, apart from their first meanings, can it be a warning for those who see the world of matter as an illusion and try to deny its reality by saying that there are "energy fluctuations piled up in the origin of matter" or something?
Those verses don't seem to be about matter, but unexpected signs from God that somehow get iinterpreted as magic.
630 And if you could see them when they are standing at their Lord; He said "Is this not the truth?" They said "Yes, by our Lord," He said "Then taste the retribution for what you have rejected."
Again, in this verse, the first and real sense of the disappointment of the unbelievers as a result of their religious denial is described. But again, if we are to do brain training other than the first meaning of the verses, that those who thinks worls is a illusion despite all their proof of the material world be criticized indirectly.
Certain groups do prefer myths/ lies over facts/truth. That's mostly a mental problem though.
Our Lord does not swear on a dream. The truth is that he swears on them.
In short, the belief that "everything is a game of our perceptions, in fact matter is just a dream" that the Spiritualist/New Ageist doctrine tries to impose on people is not true.
That's actually true, but I think the word is beliefs instead of perceptions. They impact our lives. That's why, it is best to take control of them. God in Quran does a great job of explaining how.
As for dreams, Spiritualist/New Ageist might be talking about something much deeper than what we know.
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Spiritualists/New Ageists are pagan pantheists.
Our video about this
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k
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Spiritualists/New Ageists are pagan pantheists.
Our video about this
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k
Sufis and Kabbalists are also pagan pantheists. Sufism is the Trojan horse of Spiritualism, it tries to infiltrate religion. I have Turkish articles and videos on this topic.
Examples;
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/kuran-ve-nur.html
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/11/kainat-veya-zihninizi-put-edinmeyin.html
https//vimeo.com/93770136
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Sufis and Kabbalists are also pagan pantheists. Sufism is the Trojan horse of Spiritualism, it tries to infiltrate religion. I have Turkish articles and videos on this topic.
Examples;
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/kuran-ve-nur.html
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/11/kainat-veya-zihninizi-put-edinmeyin.html
https//vimeo.com/93770136
And;
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html
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And;
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html
And;
https//emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2011/12/meshur-uydurma-hadisteki-yonlendirmeye.html
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308 Have they never learned to think for themselves?5 God has not created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them without truth and a term set 6 and yet, behold, there are many people who stubbornly deny the truth that they are destined to meet their Sustainer!
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You are a man of great moral character (684)
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“Everything is energy and that’s all there is to it. Match the frequency of the reality you want and you cannot help but get that reality. It can be no other way. This is not philosophy. This is physics.” ~EinsteinNice summarization presented in the tabular format.
Everything in this universe is available in opposite polarity, thus the contrast can be recognized.
As such that the opposition of polarity is here to stay, as long as this universe exist.Having said that this universe and it's contrasting polarity is indeed an illusion..
Brahman Sathyam, Jagat Mithya
(only) Brahman is real, the universe is unreal.
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(only) the universe is
Abandon the heretical and pagan religion of duality. Drop the duality superstition. Drop the paganism and Hinduism.
Turn to Islam.
God/Allah says the universe is real.
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Abandon the heretical and pagan religion of duality. Drop the duality superstition. Drop the paganism and Hinduism.
Such statement is a perfect example of Religion Dictated Beliefs
Thank you, you've been a great help to show the opposite contrast.
Let me guess what will you do next, how about FEAR?
Sending out a threat? a punishment? a torture?That's another key characteristic of religion that's not yet in the summarized table of "sprituality" vs "religion".
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Abandon the heretical and pagan religion of duality. Drop the duality superstition. Drop the paganism and Hinduism.
Turn to Islam.
God/Allah says the universe is real.
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Matter is Real
The spiritualist doctrine and all the formations that follow its path always claim that matter is nothing but a dream, an illusion.
The first thing they cite as evidence is that matter is actually composed of energy, and that if we delve into the origin of matter, we will encounter things like energy fluctuations, etc. They also bring light into the equation, trying to prove that the essence of matter is an illusion, a mirage, and a ghostly thing.
But there is something they are not taking into account - the thing called energy is not something outside of matter either. If matter is its concentrated form, then energy is its scattered and varied form. The thing called light is also nothing other than matter. So when we delve into the origin of matter, we still end up with matter and reality.
The second piece of evidence put forward by those who consider matter an illusion is that the world of matter is perceived as if it is the result of the tricks of our sense organs.
They say that if we see something, it is not because that thing exists, but because our eye perceives it that way, and if we hear something, we are actually perceiving what our ear, the receiver, has created.
But here too, they are overlooking something. If, as they say, all this is not real, but an illusion created by our receivers, then why do we rush to repair, that is, to treat them when one of our receivers is damaged? If all this is just a game played by our receivers, then the double vision of a cross-eyed person should be just as normal and healthy as the single vision of a healthy eye. So why do you accept the one seen by the healthy eye as correct and the one seen by the cross-eyed eye as "unhealthy" and wrong?
Or why do you consider the halo around the lights seen by a cataract-affected eye as "unhealthy" and "wrong" and resort to surgery, medications, or herbal cures? And why do you try to treat someone with impaired hearing who cannot hear sounds properly.
The reason is that matter is real and not an illusion. It is not at all a game played by our receivers, and it has universal, immutable measures. That's why, when you can't perceive these measures in a healthy way, you realize that you are perceiving the reality of matter in an unhealthy way and rush to treat it. If matter were a dream, there would be no need for this. The reality of matter is constant and does not vary from person to person. Of course, as long as there is no malfunction in your receivers.
The verses I will now give are not directly related to our subject, because their primary meanings criticize those who deny the verses and prophets sent by God. However, after accepting the clear primary meanings of the verses, can we ponder the other meanings they point to? Of course, the secondary and tertiary meanings we will attribute will only be claims and assumptions. So please accept what I am about to say as just "a brain exercise". I have no other purpose.
"And if We had sent down unto thee (Muhammad) (actual) writing upon parchment, so that they could feel it with their hands, those who disbelieve would have said This is naught else than mere magic." (Al-An'am 67)
Apart from the clear meaning of this verse, could it also mean that even though We have given you physical things that you can perceive with your receptors, you still insist on considering all these realities as an illusion and a dream?
"Is this magic or do you not see?" (At-Tur 5213-14)
Again, apart from the primary clear meaning of this verse, could it also contain an indirect warning that you have been constantly calling the material realm an illusion, a dream, and now taste the torment of the fierce fire and see whether matter is real or an illusion?
"And if they were to see a piece of the heaven falling down, they would say 'Clouds piled up.'" (At-Tur 5244)
542 If they see a sign, they turn away and say, "Continuous magic!"(Al-Qamar 542)
In these verses as well, apart from their primary meanings, could there be a warning to those who see the world of matter as an illusion and say that "at the origin of matter, there are stacked energy fluctuations" and deny its reality?
"And if you could but see when they are made to stand before their Lord! He will say, 'Is this not the truth?' They will say, 'Yes, by our Lord.' He will say, 'So taste the punishment because you used to disbelieve.'" (Al-An'am 630)
Again, this verse is certainly explaining the despair that the disbelievers experience as a result of their religious denial in the primary and real sense. But if we do a brain exercise outside the primary meaning of the verses, could it be that those who accept the world of matter as an illusion despite all the evidence are being criticized indirectly?
As I said, the reason I wrote all these verses is just to do a mental exercise. In fact, no one can definitively say "this is how it is" regarding the secondary and tertiary meanings of the verses. Those who do so are in delusion.
However, some verses directly convey to us the information that matter-created things are real
"It is He who created the heavens and the earth in truth." (Al-Ahqaf 463)
"And it is Allah who has created the heavens and the earth in truth." (Al-'Ankabut 2944)
Allah also states in His verses that He has created as "truth" - "reality".
Moreover, in some of His verses, He swears by the created beings. For example
"By the fig and the olive." (At-Tin 951)
"And the secure city ." (At-Tin 953)Our Lord does not swear by an illusion. He swears by realities.
In short, the belief that "everything is a game of our perceptions, and matter is truly a dream" that the spiritualist doctrine tries to instill in people is not correct.
As always, spiritualism is struggling to lead people to false beliefs and even denial.
The way to realise this is to turn to Islam, saying "only the Quran."
Greetings and love.
