Ramadan 2010 in The netherlands
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Selam aleykum everybody i am having some trouble with the ramadan of this year in the netherlands. the problem is that ramadan begins in the summer an it is getting pretty hot out here, but that is just a minor issue, the real problem is that the sun down is at 10.00 pm ja we cant eat until then and i think this sure not healty to not eat until 10 a clock. alot of people will gain wait and become ill because of this. I would like to now how you guys look at this issue and how it may be solved. or if you think that nit is not a problem at al and i am over reacting then you can also leave a comment with arguments.
Peace,
Ugur
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Selam aleykum everybody i am having some trouble with the ramadan of this year in the netherlands. the problem is that ramadan begins in the summer an it is getting pretty hot out here, but that is just a minor issue, the real problem is that the sun down is at 10.00 pm ja we cant eat until then and i think this sure not healty to not eat until 10 a clock. alot of people will gain wait and become ill because of this. I would like to now how you guys look at this issue and how it may be solved. or if you think that nit is not a problem at al and i am over reacting then you can also leave a comment with arguments.
Peace,
Ugur
sunSalam Ugur, all
Welcome to the forum welcome welcome welcome and it is indeed a blessing to be here.
As for your concern, there is really no alternative to it except follow what is in the qur'an which is to fast until the night comes.
And the night is usually heralded by (below are translations from The Message 2.0)
676 When the night covered him, he saw a PLANET, and he said ?This is my Lord.? But when it disappeared he said ?I do not like those who disappear.?
860 In the name of God, the Almighty, the Merciful.
861 By the heaven and the herald.
862 And do you know what the herald is?
863 The piercing star.
864 Every soul has a recorder over it.
865 So let man see from what he was created.
866 He was created from a water that spurts forth.
867 It comes out from between the spine and the testicles.
868 For He is able to bring him back.
869 The Day when all is revealed.
8610 Then he will not have any power or victor.
8611 And the sky which gives rain.
8612 And the land with cracks.
8613 This is the word that separates matters.
8614 And it is not a thing for amusement.
8615 They are planning a plan.
8616 And I am planning a plan.
8617 So respite the rejecters, respite them for a while.If it is of any consolation, I start my fast here (Philippines) around 430 a.m. and end my fast by around 730 p.m. to 8 p.m. (of course still 2 hours earlier from the night there) since I travel from work to my house for more than 2 hours. And night here would be about 700 to 730 p.m. by the definition of it in the qu'ran.
Of course, the real problem would be in areas where there is no night at certain times of the year. If no full moon is seen after the summer solstice and no night arrives to signal the end of the fast, then I think people in that area are not obligated to fast as per 2185 (below is Ayman's translation)
- The full moon of scorching heat is when the reading was descended as a guidance for people and clarifications from the guidance and the criterion, so whomever WITNESSES the full-moon, let him abstain it. And whomever was sick or traveling so a count of other days. The God wants to facilitate and not make it hard on you. And so complete the count and magnify The God for what He guided you and perhaps you would be thankful.
May God increase our knowledge.
Alhamdulillah.
Ramon jedi
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Hi ugur and welcome! peace
Personally, I think your concerns are justified. Our bodies lose at least two to three liters of liquid per day when it is very hot, and are only able to "store" 1/4 to 1/2 liter per hour. So theoretically, you would have to stay up most of the night in order to assure that you get all the water you need. Now not everyone can afford to do that when they have to work or look after their families / kids.
Maybe you can try it and see how it goes, and in case your body can't take it, you break your fast and make up for the days later, or give money instead.
I know some German Muslims who solve this problem by using Mecca time for fasting, maybe that is something worth considering for you?
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peace all
yes. for fasting with difficulties we can always compensate for it.
thanks!
ramon O0
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Hi ugur and welcome! peace
Personally, I think your concerns are justified. Our bodies lose at least two to three liters of liquid per day when it is very hot, and are only able to "store" 1/4 to 1/2 liter per hour. So theoretically, you would have to stay up most of the night in order to assure that you get all the water you need. Now not everyone can afford to do that when they have to work or look after their families / kids.
Maybe you can try it and see how it goes, and in case your body can't take it, you break your fast and make up for the days later, or give money instead.
I know some German Muslims who solve this problem by using Mecca time for fasting, maybe that is something worth considering for you?
thanks you all for replying to me post and for takin the time to help me with this issue.
Leyna, you said that you know some muslims in germany that solved this problem by fasting according to the mecca`s time, but do you think this is against the quran or just the most resonable option for us muslims in europe
peace, Ugur