why do imams scream in the mosques?!
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Princess
we really have to make difference between zionism (from which palestine suffers) and judaism as such, instead of delivering hate speeches in mosques, which are supposed to be houses of peace and worship.
yes we should praise them...in our Khutbaaaas, but they are not as intelligent as you are? Daffars, Mullah's, backwards..
Can you please differeniate between Zionism and present day Jews? (may be few exceptions)
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Princess
yes we should praise them...in our Khutbaaaas, but they are not as intelligent as you are? Daffars, Mullah's, backwards..Can you please differeniate between Zionism and present day Jews? (may be few exceptions)
they are one and they same.no they are not one and the same at all, google a bit more, expand your knowledge, it may help us all.
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AlenWhy she should not wear make-up, does it cause any hurdle?
You are banning the basic freedom of Women?
That is her basic right to carry over make-up,
you are wrong brother.
PrincessThere are hundresds of subsets in so called progressive muslims, Its easy to say something and evade it, because you have nothing defined, and you follow whatever seems fit to you.
did i mention your name? may be you are guilty consious? I said "specially those women".Peace be upon you,
with all due Respect.Okay, fine, you win, she can wear make up, in fact, I'll call Jennifer Garner's personal's make up assistants, the ones she worked with on Alias and tell her to do her job better this time. Deal? rotfl
I'm just saying that make-up won't be and isn't necessary during the prayer, one should focus on the prayer and on the talking to God. It doesn't cause any hurdle, it doesn't distract me, in fact, what does distract me is a bearded imam. ;DI'm not banning any freedom, especially those of gender equality.
I want women to be imams, make-up or not. I want women to be presidents and
lead the countries out of wars and towards peace, like queen of Jordan, Rania. handshakeBy the way, I'm more attracted to women who wear no make-up at all or very little.
May God increase our knowledge and give us more patience.
Glory be to God.
Peace be upon you. jedi -
So differeniate them, don't tell me about google!
Come on tell me please, who are present days Jews and what is Zionism? help improve my knowldge?
dear rajah, google indeed is your friend - USE IT.
but let us help you a little to begin your research zionism is a political movement(mostly secular btw), judaism is one of the abrahamic monotheistic religions/ways of life. not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews. in fact there are countless jews who OPPOSE zionism because it is contrary to the teachings in their holy book torah. you can often see jews protesting on the streets against zionist state that is israel, there are countless websites where true jews express their revulsion against what the state of israel is doing to palestinians etc etc etc.
what do you think of this
http//freewestradio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/end_of_Zionism_equals_peace.jpgor this
http//artintifada.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/psmneturi1.jpgor maybe this
http//artintifada.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/real_jews_by_digitalgrace.jpgdon't just sit in ignorance, educate yourself.
Peace be upon you,
with all due Respect.Okay, fine, you win, she can wear make up, in fact, I'll call Jennifer Garner's personal's make up assistants, the ones she worked with on Alias and tell her to do her job better this time. Deal? rotfl
I'm just saying that make-up won't be and isn't necessary during the prayer, one should focus on the prayer and on the talking to God. It doesn't cause any hurdle, it doesn't distract me, in fact, what does distract me is a bearded imam. ;DI'm not banning any freedom, especially those of gender equality.
I want women to be imams, make-up or not. I want women to be presidents and
lead the countries out of wars and towards peace, like queen of Jordan, Rania. handshakeBy the way, I'm more attracted to women who wear no make-up at all or very little.
May God increase our knowledge and give us more patience.
Glory be to God.
Peace be upon you. jedithank god there are guys like you without weird complexes out there, alen! handshake
btw, when alias was running i was SOOOOO hooked to it!! i tried to never miss an episode! jennifer garner as sydney was the best!! one episode sydney was visiting estonia also, though they probably did not shoot it there
At the CIA, Sydney, having learned that Vaughn is sick, asks Irina if there is an antidote. It's in Paldiski, Estonia, she says, at a former Soviet training base for nuclear submarine personnel.
what do you mean do a better job this time? i think sydney looked natural & cute every time sun
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dear rajah, google indeed is your friend - USE IT.
but let us help you a little to begin your research zionism is a political movement(mostly secular btw), judaism is one of the abrahamic monotheistic religions/ways of life. not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews. in fact there are countless jews who OPPOSE zionism because it is contrary to the teachings in their holy book torah. you can often see jews protesting on the streets against zionist state that is israel, there are countless websites where true jews express their revulsion against what the state of israel is doing to palestinians etc etc etc.
Ironic thing is the 'traditional muslims' try to differentiate themselves from the 'extremist muslims' but cannot do the same for Jews and Zionists. Some go as far as saying the Holocaust was a good thing.....just shows how much brainwashing and asleep some people are.
PEACE
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Ironic thing is the 'traditional muslims' try to differentiate themselves from the 'extremist muslims' but cannot do the same for Jews and Zionists. Some go as far as saying the Holocaust was a good thing.....just shows how much brainwashing and asleep some people are.
PEACE
EXACTLY. i was about to add something along the lines myself, but you beat me to it! bravo
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princess
dear rajah, google indeed is your friend - USE IT.
arrogance mixed up with ignorance often produces people, who think others need research and they themselves are on top of the world.
Actually I should have not adressed You, who doesnot have even elementry knowldge of Judaism and some of your friends here, but for greater audience it was necessary.
Let us start from their own scriptures and go on to their brutual killings of Turkish.
?If a ?goy? (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.? (Sanhedrin 58b)*
?If a Jew finds an object lost by a ?goy? it does not have to be returned.? (Baba Mezia 24a)*
?If a Jew murders a ?goy? there will be no death penalty.? (Sanhedrin 57a)*Since I have to go for an urgent work, I will continue and at last ofthe post I will ask you who needs to expand the Knowledge? and not necessarily through GOOOOGLE>
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arrogance mixed up with ignorance often produces people, who think others need research and they themselves are on top of the world.
I dont think you have ever said anything so true. Then you go on to prove it>Actually I should have not adressed You, who doesnot have even elementry knowldge of Judaism and some of your friends here, but for greater audience it was necessary.
Let us start from their own scriptures and go on to their brutual killings of Turkish.
?If a ?goy? (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.? (Sanhedrin 58b)*
?If a Jew finds an object lost by a ?goy? it does not have to be returned.? (Baba Mezia 24a)*
?If a Jew murders a ?goy? there will be no death penalty.? (Sanhedrin 57a)*Since I have to go for an urgent work, I will continue and at last ofthe post I will ask you who needs to expand the Knowledge? and not necessarily through GOOOOGLE>
dont forget Sanhedrin 55b and I think its 69? not sure.
Of course none of this is anything to do with the difference between Zionists and Jews but hey why change your script now Raaajah. ;D
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princess
arrogance mixed up with ignorance often produces people, who think others need research and they themselves are on top of the world.
Actually I should have not adressed You, who doesnot have even elementry knowldge of Judaism and some of your friends here, but for greater audience it was necessary.
Let us start from their own scriptures and go on to their brutual killings of Turkish.
And then we shall continue on the brutal killings of the Armenians by the Turks..
?If a ?goy? (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.? (Sanhedrin 58b)*
?If a Jew finds an object lost by a ?goy? it does not have to be returned.? (Baba Mezia 24a)*
?If a Jew murders a ?goy? there will be no death penalty.? (Sanhedrin 57a)*Since I have to go for an urgent work, I will continue and at last ofthe post I
will ask you who needs to expand the Knowledge? and not necessarily through GOOOOGLE>Yup that's why many Jews discard those Rabbanic Judaism's talmud bullshit..
just like many people on this forum discard the Sunniism's Rumour bullshit..Salam / Peace
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arrogance mixed up with ignorance often produces people, who think others need research and they themselves are on top of the world.
Actually I should have not adressed You, who doesnot have even elementry knowldge of Judaism and some of your friends here, but for greater audience it was necessary.
Let us start from their own scriptures and go on to their brutual killings of Turkish.
?If a ?goy? (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed.? (Sanhedrin 58b)*
?If a Jew finds an object lost by a ?goy? it does not have to be returned.? (Baba Mezia 24a)*
?If a Jew murders a ?goy? there will be no death penalty.? (Sanhedrin 57a)*Since I have to go for an urgent work, I will continue and at last ofthe post I will ask you who needs to expand the Knowledge? and not necessarily through GOOOOGLE>
what you quote is not from the jewish holy books (tanakh), but from opinions, debates & discussions (collected as talmud) written in ancient (pre-medieval) times, by humans.
how does that prove that zionism and judaism are the same? zionism emerged as a movement a little over hundred years ago, while judaism has been there for thousands of years.maybe it's time to come off your high horse and heed the facts.
i can bring you many more 'sahih' ahadith from islamic folklore that supersede your talmudic quotations by ridiculousness by far.
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princess
i can bring you many more 'sahih' ahadith from islamic folklore that supersede your talmudic quotations by ridiculousness by far.
your true colours come out. We are talking about Jews and their teachings and you are responding with faults in Islamic tradition. That says a lot about your debating sense and KNOWLEDGE.
princess
what you quote is not from the jewish holy books
Offcourse, that is what their teachings are, this is how an average Jew is brought up, with "Superiority" over all other NAtions and Religons, this is just un deny able FACT.
princess
but from opinions, debates & discussions (collected as talmud) written in ancient (pre-medieval) times, by humans.
Yes!
princesshow does that prove that zionism and judaism are the same? zionism emerged as a movement a little over hundred years ago, while judaism has been there for thousands of years
You have lot to learn, lady. Don't try to evade the issue. Scroll back a little.
And more thoughts of Jews
The ?goyim? are not humans. They are beasts.? (Baba Mezia 114b)*
?If you eat with a ?goy? it is the same as eating with a dog.? (Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b)*
?Even the best of the ?goyim? should all be killed.? (Soferim 15)*
?Sexual intercourse between the ?goyim? is like intercourse between animals.? (Sanhedrin 74b)*Surely Imamas should praise them in MAsjids, as princess advises.
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Jaffar
Yup that's why many Jews discard those Rabbanic Judaism's talmud bullshit..
just like many people on this forum discard the Sunniism's Rumour bullshit..What many Jews? don't try to forge the facts!
Bunch of frustrated people, who are even hiding their identity in the society they live in (their thoughts) are they the representative of Islam? same is true with Jews, christians, and every religon, even the atheists, they have different thoughts within their own circle, the intelligent discuss them others call it BULL SHIT.Jews from centuries are reading and following Talmud, If they would have not believed in these teachings there would have been no Israel.
Turks and Kurds, Turks and Armenia is not a proper respond to the issue at hand.
I think Imam Kaaba and all the others Imam from now on should praise Jews in their Kutbaas instead of Allah and Prophet Muhammad, in order to please our dear princess.??Yashu? (Issa) is in Hell being boiled in hot excrement.? (Gittin 57a)
Show me a Hadith princess as you shouted in your post which is more ridiculous then this for Jesus.princess
i can bring you many more 'sahih' ahadith from islamic folklore that supersede your talmudic quotations by ridiculousness by far.
have a nice dayBut this seems not a nice day for you, May Allah be pleased with you and other GREAT minds of your alike.
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man do you talk some utter crap!
what you are quoting is the same as islam haters quoting a hadith and telling us this is what all Muslims follow and are taught, kill the non-muslims, keep women locked in the home...............................................................aahhh, that is why you believe this, because you also believe hadith are right and part of Islam, of course.
"Offcourse, that is what their teachings are, this is how an average Muslim is brought up, with "Superiority" over all other NAtions and Religons, this is just un deny able FACT."
Jafar
"Yup that's why many Jews discard those Rabbanic Judaism's talmud bullshit..
just like many people on this forum discard the Sunniism's Rumour bullshit.."Absolutely right.
"Jews from centuries are reading and following Talmud, If they would have not believed in these teachings there would have been no Israel." utter rubbish! lets change a word or 2
"Muslims from centuries are reading and following Hadith, If they would have not believed in these teachings there would have been no Islam."
You are following your own prejudice against Jew just like you do against women on here.
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Ayisha
"Offcourse, that is what their teachings are, this is how an average Muslim is brought up, with "Superiority" over all other NAtions and Religons, this is just un deny able FACT."
Ayisha
"Muslims from centuries are reading and following Hadith, If they would have not believed in these teachings there would have been no Islam."
I can understand you hatred towards Mulsims.
Ayisha you have protrayed yourself as well educated and groomed lady, well versed, high in knwoldge and done extensive research, but your posts here donot predict that.
You and your friends are just commiting the fallecy of
Tu quoque (pronounced /tjukwokw/, from Latin for "You, too" or "You, also"It is not me, it is your posts that are rubbish, sorry to say. Now if you want to defend Jews there are other better ways laugh
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Ayisha
I can understand you hatred towards Mulsims.Now where did you manage to twist that one from? If I hated muslims do you think i would BE one?
Ayisha you have protrayed yourself as well educated and groomed lady, well versed, high in knwoldge and done extensive research, but your posts here donot predict that.
you have not portrayed yourself as educated and your posts show that, you have portrayed yourself as a mysoginistic uneducated prejudiced hateful man, which your posts confirmIt is not me, it is your posts that are rubbish, sorry to say. Now if you want to defend Jews there are other better ways laugh
Its not a case of 'defending Jews' its a case of trying to educate those with so much prejudice they cant see what is fact from fable, I see its not working.
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Ayisha
you have not portrayed yourself as educated and your posts show that, you have portrayed yourself as a mysoginistic uneducated prejudiced hateful man, which your posts confirm
At least I am not a Muanfiq, according to your understanding of me, but sorry that cannot be said about your posts.
Ayisha
Its not a case of 'defending Jews' its a case of trying to educate those with so much prejudice they cant see what is fact from fable, I see its not working
Please don't lie, you are defending them by attacking Muslims, do you want me to quote you every time.
Ayisha
aahhh, that is why you believe this, because you also believe hadith are right and part of Islam, of course.
Lie again, please stop assuming and lying.
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Ayisha
At least I am not a Muanfiq, according to your understanding of me, but sorry that cannot be said about your posts.
please explain why i am a hypocrite?Ayisha
Please don't lie, you are defending them by attacking Muslims, do you want me to quote you every time.
where have i attacked muslims? I dont lie, dont judge others by your own shortcomingsAyisha
Lie again, please stop assuming and lying.
you do it all the time raaaaaaaajah, is that allowed as you're a man? I didnt lie, I assumed from your postings which is what you portray.