Islamophobia and God Alone.
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It could also act as a 'reminder' / 'lesson' for us to not doing the same thing to other people or culture..
Basically people fear the 'unknown' or those who are 'alien' to them..
There are Islamophobic, Jewishphobic, Chinesephobic, Asianphobic, Westernphobic etc.."We reap what we sew"
"Judge not, that ye be not judged"
"For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged and with what measure you measure , it shall be measured to you again."
"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?"Salam / Peace
You are quite right. But please don't forget that most Sunni and Shea are Christianphobic
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You are quite right. But please don't forget that most Sunni and Shea are Christianphobic
They are more jewish phobic than christian phobic. ;D
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You are quite right. But please don't forget that most Sunni and Shea are Christianphobic
Yes Rev. John.. you're right...
And they (sunni, shiites etc..) got it from their 'older brother' as well the Christians..
You see... both (traditional) christians and traditional Islam (sunni, shiites) share these common traits
- Salvation of the soul (heaven/jannah) is achieved through having the 'correct faith' and joining the 'true religion/sect'.
- Actively seeking converts, thinking that by obtaining convert for their 'true religion/sect' God will be pleased and grant them heaven/jannah.
- The 'correct faith' is achieved by acknowledgement / recognizing all God's prophet sent to this world (one is Jesus the other one is Mohammad)
Although they haven't met any of them during their lifetime. - Fail to recognized any of God's true prophet will results in Narr / Hell / Gehena, as such both think that the Jews
(and others infidels who doesn't recognize their prophet) will certainly ends up in Hell since they don't acknowledged Jesus or Mohammad. - Converting to other sect / religion / belief besides the 'true religion/dogma' will got Hell as their punishment.
As such they're very very afraid of 'learning and understanding other point of view / teachings' as there could be chances that they shall 'feel'
that this 'other point of view' is more 'right and correct' and they will 'lose their secured slot in Heaven / Jannah'.
And that's why they are always 'phobic' to alien culture and point of view and do nothing to understand it yet do many to attack it.
The way to ends this 'circle of karma' (as the eastern religions / cultures called it) is to start from ourselves.
Refrain from <put anything here>-phobic and people/race/culture stereotyping, and as time progress this 'good deed' shall bear its fruit.And you my dear friend Rev.John are one of those rare personalities who could help on this 'collaborative works' for ending this
centuries long of prejudices, hatred, suspicion and stereotyping by putting forward a good example of TOLERANCE, LOVE and UNDERSTANDING.Salam / Peace
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Yes Rev. John.. you're right...
And they (sunni, shiites etc..) got it from their 'older brother' as well the Christians..
You see... both (traditional) christians and traditional Islam (sunni, shiites) share these common traits
- Salvation of the soul (heaven/jannah) is achieved through having the 'correct faith' and joining the 'true religion/sect'.
- Actively seeking converts, thinking that by obtaining convert for their 'true religion/sect' God will be pleased and grant them heaven/jannah.
- The 'correct faith' is achieved by acknowledgement / recognizing all God's prophet sent to this world (one is Jesus the other one is Mohammad)
Although they haven't met any of them during their lifetime. - Fail to recognized any of God's true prophet will results in Narr / Hell / Gehena, as such both think that the Jews
(and others infidels who doesn't recognize their prophet) will certainly ends up in Hell since they don't acknowledged Jesus or Mohammad. - Converting to other sect / religion / belief besides the 'true religion/dogma' will got Hell as their punishment.
As such they're very very afraid of 'learning and understanding other point of view / teachings' as there could be chances that they shall 'feel'
that this 'other point of view' is more 'right and correct' and they will 'lose their secured slot in Heaven / Jannah'.
And that's why they are always 'phobic' to alien culture and point of view and do nothing to understand it yet do many to attack it.
The way to ends this 'circle of karma' (as the eastern religions / cultures called it) is to start from ourselves.
Refrain from <put anything here>-phobic and people/race/culture stereotyping, and as time progress this 'good deed' shall bear its fruit.And you my dear friend Rev.John are one of those rare personalities who could help on this 'collaborative works' for ending this
centuries long of prejudices, hatred, suspicion and stereotyping by putting forward a good example of TOLERANCE, LOVE and UNDERSTANDING.Salam / Peace
Oh yes you are right! I would never even think of trying to deny that. All you have to do is look back in history to find numerous examples. Unfortunately no one seems to learn from it.
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Yes Rev. John.. you're right...
And they (sunni, shiites etc..) got it from their 'older brother' as well the Christians..
You see... both (traditional) christians and traditional Islam (sunni, shiites) share these common traits
- Salvation of the soul (heaven/jannah) is achieved through having the 'correct faith' and joining the 'true religion/sect'.
- Actively seeking converts, thinking that by obtaining convert for their 'true religion/sect' God will be pleased and grant them heaven/jannah.
- The 'correct faith' is achieved by acknowledgement / recognizing all God's prophet sent to this world (one is Jesus the other one is Mohammad)
Although they haven't met any of them during their lifetime. - Fail to recognized any of God's true prophet will results in Narr / Hell / Gehena, as such both think that the Jews
(and others infidels who doesn't recognize their prophet) will certainly ends up in Hell since they don't acknowledged Jesus or Mohammad. - Converting to other sect / religion / belief besides the 'true religion/dogma' will got Hell as their punishment.
As such they're very very afraid of 'learning and understanding other point of view / teachings' as there could be chances that they shall 'feel'
that this 'other point of view' is more 'right and correct' and they will 'lose their secured slot in Heaven / Jannah'.
And that's why they are always 'phobic' to alien culture and point of view and do nothing to understand it yet do many to attack it.
The way to ends this 'circle of karma' (as the eastern religions / cultures called it) is to start from ourselves.
Refrain from <put anything here>-phobic and people/race/culture stereotyping, and as time progress this 'good deed' shall bear its fruit.And you my dear friend Rev.John are one of those rare personalities who could help on this 'collaborative works' for ending this
centuries long of prejudices, hatred, suspicion and stereotyping by putting forward a good example of TOLERANCE, LOVE and UNDERSTANDING.Salam / Peace
I think the most unfortunate resemblance though would be that you should love Jesus/Muhammad more than any other human being with all your heart, soul and effort till the point where youd have to start wonder if even God has as much place in ones heart truly, or else........
How is it that they manage to convince themselves that what theyre doing isnt even close to being considered as idol worship beats me. -
OK, this has been bothering me for quite a while. I have yet to actually face an islamophobe, but they seem to be EVERYWHERE online, just check a random article on Islam with a comment section. My heart is filled with sorrow and anger whenever I see such comments, yet none of their arguments hold any value against my beliefs as a God Aloner.
What I would like to discuss is whether God Aloners are to be considered as collateral damage since most objections against Islam is based on Hadith and Quranic verses pulled out of context. And what can be done to educate people on the causes of barbarianism found in "Islamic" countries. I just HATE the very thought of me, or any true Muslim, being associated with the likes of the Iranian Government and even Taliban. The whole "Islam is as Islam does"-thing pisses me off.
Sometimes it just feels like the word "Muslim" bears nothing but bad connotations here in the West. It's sad. '(
Islamophobia is an invention by Muslim propagandists so it is no surprise you haven't encountered one. Consider the word phobia. Psychologists and actual sufferers suffer pain and anxiety from their phobias and the notion of islamphobia denies these real sufferers the dignity of being recognised as having a phobia.
I don't agree with Islam, so I imagine I am an Islamophobe depending who needs to paint me as one. And yet I can assure you I am not afraid of you and we could have dinner and a good time and I would talk about anything you wished.
Am I afraid of Islam? Yep. Sorry. Should I be? Well you tell me? 379 religiously motivated deaths during Ramadan!?! It makes me wretch.
www.religionofpeace.comAt best I hope and pray that we are just in a difficult time. Koran aloners aren't the problem. But you are not a Muslim, in fact you disassociate yourself from traditional Islam by denying many hadiths. I am glad you do but I find it hard to agree that you get to decide what it is to worship Allah as opposed to what Muslims have said is traditional for 1400 years. We both know that you would be unsafe in a conservative Islamic environment. So does that make you an Islamaphobe?
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Islamophobia is an invention by Muslim propagandists so it is no surprise you haven't encountered one. Consider the word phobia. Psychologists and actual sufferers suffer pain and anxiety from their phobias and the notion of islamphobia denies these real sufferers the dignity of being recognised as having a phobia.
I don't agree with Islam, so I imagine I am an Islamophobe depending who needs to paint me as one. And yet I can assure you I am not afraid of you and we could have dinner and a good time and I would talk about anything you wished.
Am I afraid of Islam? Yep. Sorry. Should I be? Well you tell me? 379 religiously motivated deaths during Ramadan!?! It makes me wretch.
www.religionofpeace.comAt best I hope and pray that we are just in a difficult time. Koran aloners aren't the problem. But you are not a Muslim, in fact you disassociate yourself from traditional Islam by denying many hadiths. I am glad you do but I find it hard to agree that you get to decide what it is to worship Allah as opposed to what Muslims have said is traditional for 1400 years. We both know that you would be unsafe in a conservative Islamic environment. So does that make you an Islamaphobe?
laugh
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Islamophobia is an invention by Muslim propagandists so it is no surprise you haven't encountered one. Consider the word phobia. Psychologists and actual sufferers suffer pain and anxiety from their phobias and the notion of islamphobia denies these real sufferers the dignity of being recognised as having a phobia.
I don't agree with Islam, so I imagine I am an Islamophobe depending who needs to paint me as one. And yet I can assure you I am not afraid of you and we could have dinner and a good time and I would talk about anything you wished.
Am I afraid of Islam? Yep. Sorry. Should I be? Well you tell me? 379 religiously motivated deaths during Ramadan!?! It makes me wretch.
www.religionofpeace.comAt best I hope and pray that we are just in a difficult time. Koran aloners aren't the problem. But you are not a Muslim, in fact you disassociate yourself from traditional Islam by denying many hadiths. I am glad you do but I find it hard to agree that you get to decide what it is to worship Allah as opposed to what Muslims have said is traditional for 1400 years. We both know that you would be unsafe in a conservative Islamic environment. So does that make you an Islamaphobe?
I seriously wonder what this person's purpose is on the forum anyways. An Israeli apologist at times, a christian right winger at times and an "Islam basher" at times except when they are thwarted by "quran aloners" so the "quran aloners" are basically a useless cult that isn't "Islam" and thus "Islam bashing" is still on/justified in their sad little minds. Let's look at the quoted piece
- Islamophobia is an invention by Muslim propagandists followed by "Am I afraid of Islam? Yep"...
- Should I be? Well you tell me?...We've told you countless times, there's so much material out there about this but that's not good enough coming from a cult of people who aren't even "Muslims".
- But you are not a "Muslim"...I said so because I find it hard to believe that I won't get my bashing satisfaction on this forum (Islam is still evil, Muslims are minions of said evil nyah nyah I'm not listening).
- I find it hard to agree that you get to decide what it is to worship Allah...this is the best one yet. Self explanatory in it's awesomeness. You must either be a part of the "league of evil Muslims immersed in the evilness of Islam as I see it or you guys are just cultish happy deniers of true evil".
- You would be unsafe in a conservative Islamic environment, so does that make you an Islamaphobe wink wink nudge nudge eh eh?...Tryin' casually to end it by sayin' we are all Islamophobes and we should love it because it is the righteous thing to do in loo..er wootah-land.
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Looking at the so called muslim community, well it is sad but understandable why so many people feel or think the way they do.
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Peace,
Respect.Islamophobia came to be because of sunnis and shias.
The things I have seen and heard just made things worse.
Islam was and is a peaceful way of life but of course we can't argue with anyone now that certian sunnis and shias have destroyed the reputation of Islam.
Now, these days, everyone sees muslims as bad guys and as soon a san explosion happens, we know who the scapegoat is. Any given muslim. He can be Usamah bin laden, Saddam or just some guy from Jordan named Abdullah who got in the way.
Wrong timing and wrong location, huh?Let's open a next question here how do we deal and possibly erase/delete the fear that has been added to Islam?
May God help us all.
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I seriously wonder what this person's purpose is on the forum anyways. An Israeli apologist at times, a christian right winger at times and an "Islam basher" at times except when they are thwarted by "quran aloners" so the "quran aloners" are basically a useless cult that isn't "Islam" and thus "Islam bashing" is still on/justified in their sad little minds.
I can only say that I wanted to learn more about Islam and Muslims and listen and join in the conversations. I don't know how long I will stay or how long you should let me stay. I don't think I have been rude or without points that can be discussed. I am trying to post less, it is your forum so to speak.
Let's look at the quoted piece
OK.- Islamophobia is an invention by Muslim propagandists followed by "Am I afraid of Islam? Yep"... )
- Should I be? Well you tell me?...We've told you countless times, there's so much material out there about this but that's not good enough coming from a cult of people who aren't even "Muslims".
- But you are not a "Muslim"...I said so because I find it hard to believe that I won't get my bashing satisfaction on this forum (Islam is still evil, Muslims are minions of said evil nyah nyah I'm not listening).
- I find it hard to agree that you get to decide what it is to worship Allah...this is the best one yet. Self explanatory in it's awesomeness. You must either be a part of the "league of evil Muslims immersed in the evilness of Islam as I see it or you guys are just cultish happy deniers of true evil".
- You would be unsafe in a conservative Islamic environment, so does that make you an Islamaphobe wink wink nudge nudge eh eh?...Tryin' casually to end it by sayin' we are all Islamophobes and we should love it because it is the righteous thing to do in loo..er wootah-land.
At the end of the day you might like X and someone doesn't like X. Not liking X does not mean that you have a phobia about X. Is an Ahmadiyya a Muslim?
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the day you might like X and someone doesn't like X. Not liking X does not mean that you have a phobia about X. Is an Ahmadiyya a Muslim?
Nope ahmadiyya is definetely not a muslim.. according to the sunni that is..
Those filthy apostate Ahmaddiyah people only have two options Repent and convert to the True Religion according to Quran and Sunna as propagated by Prophet's (Sallalahu Alaihi Wassalam) trusted companions (Raddialahuanhu) and as authorized by Ahlu Sunna clerics (Raddialahuanhu) or DIE!!
They all deserves to be treated like this
http//www.hrw.org/en/news/2010/05/31/pakistan-massacre-minority-ahmadis